That's awesome, thanks!
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Knut... your library of templates is great... thanks!
I found an "error" on one template. On the Warden 11 template you have the heel screw front to back measure STATED as 75mm but it measure out around 80mm.
I say "error" because I have a warden 11 demo (non-MNC) and my heel track lines up exactly with your template heel, but I measure that spacing at ~79mm with digital calipers. gregorys made a warden 11 demo template he posted a link to and he measures it at 80mm, FWIW.
I can't comment at all on the toe piece because the demo toe isn't close to the what you have there.
I don't see an error. Are the Warden 11 heelplates different than the 13?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d0adaeffaf.jpg
That looks like 75mm, on center, to me. If you're mounting used Wardens, there's around +-5mm wiggle room for the two front screws, because those black plastic inserts and the stainless steel plate on top are made to slide.
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testmounted Tyrolia Attack 13 using jondrums's Tyrolia template R4.pdf, I found they are about 6mm forward than the line which I intended.
I made some mistakes or the template is not for Attacks?
I think I can simply set back 6mm but please let me know if anyone knows better or updated template.
I've found another template for Tyrolia by Powder Guide.
Printed and compared, It seems fine.
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Judging by my test,
toe of PG's is perfect.
heel of PG's is OK but 2.5mm father(select 5mm longer BSL) is better to center of forward pressure indecator.
toe of BF's needs to be shortened 5mm(select 10mm shorter BSL).
heel of BF's OK same as PG's but 2.5mm father(select 5mm longer BSL) is better, too.
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Yeah there have been known issues with the tyrolia template in this thread for some time now. It's been a while since I used it last but I think the jigarex tyrolia plate is off by the same amount as well. I came here to point you to the powderguide template, but I see that you've found it already. That's what I use (instead of the BF template and jigarex plates) for all my tyrolia mounts.
I don't know if the 11 and 13 have different heel patterns as I've only ever owned the 11 demo.
But my point was that on the template itself, the hole spacing is around 79-80mm (measured on the paper) but it SAYS its 75mm.
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Maybe we're using different metric systems. Are you printing to scale? This is what I measure.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ada973f25c.jpg
Post a link to the template you're using.
Edit: Fack. Never mind. I see what you're saying now. I'm not looking at the same template as you.
^^^ you got it.
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Is there a template out there that works for the non-demo Warden 11s?
^^^ Knut's full template library... there's a link in here a ways back.
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do me a favor and link knuts library, I'll put a link on the first page
was also going to link the verified shift template on the first page
Slidewright's binding template page has a link to Knut's google drive for all templates. The Tyrolia template is the last one at the bottom.
I'd offer to test it once you make the changes, but I don't have a loose pair of Tyrolias sitting around at the moment.
https://www.slidewright.com/powdergu...ing-templates/
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...yYY6Gg2a3Dd245
I used the Tyrolia template found on the google drive for some attack 14at. On the money.
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If you're adding stuff to the original post, could you add the images from this thread for the Warden 11 Demo?
I've mounted with it and it looks good.
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...PAPER-TEMPLATE
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Pretty niche but does anyone have a paper template of the Cast 2.0s brake holder+climbing bale mounting, mine got pretty beat up.
Just had to say thanks for everyone who pulled these templates together and verified them - super helpful!!
39mm and 55mm in front of the the center of the two most forward heel holes of a standard Pivot heel.
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The lines line up, just poor perspective in the pic. This is the tip most at 55, the tail most being at 39mm.
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Thanks to everyone who compiled these. I've used a few different templates and they've all worked perfectly
Does anyone have access to a paper template for the Rossignol Comp J kids bindings? Can't find it anywhere online and just spent the past two hours reading through this forum to no avail. Thanks in advance.
BD Helio 200 (ATK Haute Route 2.0):
http://https://galibierdesign.com/im...Route_Thom.pdf
Please do a test mount to verify that you understand the template.
I draw these templates old school - meaning that I mark the toe and heel location on the ski and cut out the square boxes to create a window to position over the toe and heel marks.
As I note in the documentation, the template is drawn for Tecnica Zero-G Tour Pros whose toe pin fittings are 10mm behind the front of the toe. Adjust the toe position for your boots ... yet another reason to do a test mount.
Note the large, 4" x 4" square around the text box (for verifying that you printed to scale). I like large scale lines (in both the x and y axis) to magnify any print scaling error. For example, my laser printer will measure 4.000" on the x-axis and about 4.007" on the y-axis. I don't sweat that difference over that much length (less than .002 per inch), but it's good to know.
... Thom
Hello guys,
I did not find anywhere on the Internet a drilling pattern for Marker alpinist touring binding. So I decided to draw in CAD a model similar to what I found on the internet for others bindings. I will upload it here in PDF format, if you consider it useful I think it would be a good ideea to post it in the first page of the thread.
p.s. sorry but I can not post a link here, dont no why, If you are interested in the tamplate for Marker alpinist text me.
I do not know how to proceed, because I am a new user I can not send PM or post download link here in the thread. Leave me an email address here or in a PM and I will reply.
If there is a moderator around to post the PDF file on the forum I think it would be very helpful for all.
Here's the alpinist template from Vlad. Looks great, thanks for making this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B76...w?usp=drivesdk
Thanks! Now I can start drilling with confidence.
Vipec/Tecton ...
I thought I posted this, but someone reported having searched and not having found it. Take note of the comments regarding the pin offset from the boot toe (I draw all of my templates to be used by marking the toe and heel of the boot).
https://galibierdesign.com/images/ot...Vipec_Thom.pdf
Same disclaimer applies ... do a test mount!
... Thom
New member. I couldn't find a template for the old (pre 2015 I think) Look Konect (demo) system, so I made one.
Not allowed URLs in first post. If anyone needs it, PM i guess, or if someone wants to add it to the sticky, let me know.
ok someone please make sure i am not totally retarded please. I was licking the windows on the short bus while thinking about this.
used skis with shift mounted for 296 on the line, centered. want to run 305 and 315 boots, so mount ideally at 310 so one boot will be +.5, the other -.5 which is fine. so I could ideally move the toe forward 7mm. but that's not really enough to avoid a conflict, right? how far do I need to move the toe forward? 10mm? that makes the mounts +.8 and -.2 which i dont think I will even notice.
help! they're putting my back in the time out closet.
Depends on the ski, and how much you’re going to obsess about it after the fact. I’d probably just use the existing holes as a first attempt, which would allow you to go -0.45 and -0.95 without breaking out the drill.
Edit: Final answer. Holy shit it’s too early for me to do basic math.
Thanks, ski is solly qst106 no metal but has "basalt".
OK I think shift has a adjustment of 30mm, so if it's mounted at the center of that, I can move the heel back 15mm, so go from 296 to 311. So I have to move something, right? I was going to just move the toe forward. ideally 7mm, to get the distance in front of mount point from 148 to 155 (half of the 296 and 310), but probably have conflict...
i am going to check them out this weekend. maybe the heel is mounted a little back because the boot is so small... do shops ever do that?
move the toe forward 1cm not bad also
Heh. Yeah. Sorry.
I think if it’s shop (jig) mounted it might not be in the center of heel travel, for the specified BSL. I can’t remember if it’s forward or back.
Edit:
... so if it was shop mounted, maybe print a template and see what the template says the BSL is.
Knut's STH/Warden 13 template not working for me for rear fixture on Warden MNC 13 bindings. Hole spacing is correct but distance from boot center is off by quite a bit. I did a test mount -- which required multiple drillings for rear fixture until I got it -- then I clicked in the boot, marked center on the template and went from there. Front was off by by a c. 2mm, likely peculiar to the boot/binding interface, i.e., not an issue, easy to correct after a test mount. But the rear fixture was way off. Proper position for my 331 BSL mount (i.e., worm screw centered on rack) had me at c. 370 BSL on Knut's template. Anybody else encounter this?
ETA: Last week I mounted Warden MNC 11s on my wife's skis and Knut's Warden 11 template worked fine. Rear was spot on. Toe c. 3mm off, easily corrected after a test mount -- again, possibly peculiar to the boot/binding interface and/or boot center mark and/or ramp angle rotating boot center forward a bit.