Hey guys. Run into any cyclists lately?
Figuratively of course.
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Hey guys. Run into any cyclists lately?
Figuratively of course.
I hear they're great for target practice.
incident occurred on a road i go on almost daily
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...rt_river_index
Wait, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
"A passenger in Tow’s 2013 red Corvette told police that he thought Tow had been driving 80 to 90 mph at one point before the crash. That passenger, Ryan Hood, told police that he’d met Tow at the Raleigh Hills Fred Meyer and paid Tow $5 for a ride, Gardner said."
5 bucks? Wanna go for a ride?
If I ever want to kill someone, I'm getting drunk and then running them over and shrugging my shoulders when the cops come for me. 6 year sentence and he'll likely serve much less.Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
more on the incident hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
https://bikeportland.org/2016/05/30/...ltnomah-184606
yeah, no shit...just amazingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
welp we can only hope justice prevails in the form of prison rapeQuote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
that said, everyone thinks mtn biking os sooo dangerous and of course there is danger but I barely ever ride my rd bike aside from riding the paths to work etc bc of this shiz.
Road biking is far more dangerous in my mind.
stay safe out there kids
There's so much road rage and tech distraction out there now. I used to ride about 50/50 Road/MTB, but lately I'm almost 100% MTB. Take it easy out there....
The trick is to automatically assume that every driver is a drunk, texting, teenager who will probably swerve into you at any moment. Never even start to think that they might see you or avoid hitting you. I only road bike on bike paths anymore and we are lucky to have a ton of miles of good paths where I live. Used to commute 10 miles across Denver, luckily they have a good network of paths too.
I think it's unfortunate that so many are retreating from road riding. It's eroding our rights to ride.
I live in a town that is more aware of cyclists than most. We still have unfortunate incidents (and more than we'd like), but one thing that doesn't get discussed enough is that we have drivers who are more aware of cyclists in the road because of the popularity of cycling here. The bar has been raised for road safety. It will take time, but it can be done.
Each person must decide on their safety and exposure, and I'm not advocating a protest or being an asshole, just quietly, safely, lawfully claiming their rights to ride. Numbers will have an effect over time.
Range Rover here, and I live in a place saturated with expensive cars. The RR drivers are in a class to themselves. Got semi road raged by two of the motherfuckers last Saturday in two seperate places. And, I was alone, off to the side, not being an asshole. I was just simply in their way, holding up their very important progress in getting the dry cleaning and buying wine for dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
It's a fine line between survival and wanting to exercise your right to the road. There are thoroughfares around here with bike lanes and they are dedicated "bike routes" but they aren't the safest way to ride around town and are rarely the most efficient way to get somewhere on a bike. What puzzles me is that I see a lot of cyclists using these routes even during periods of heavy traffic when a safer and faster alternative is just a few blocks away. The alternative will usually be a more pleasant experience too.
While riding a bike on public roads, I'm usually looking for the safest and most pleasant route to get from point a to point b and sometimes the most efficient if it's safe. I even used this mentality when I was a full time commuter here and in the Bay Area. I know I have the right to ride on public roads but I also know that even if I'm right I'm going to lose if I get run down by a motor vehicle while riding my bike.
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Originally Posted by AaronWright
Yeah, pretty much. Go with the least traffic. But, people are weird. Biking is bad enough in places that, yeah, I know, you have the "right" to be, although it's pretty dumb and unpleasant to be there, but then I see some people running in places that are on busy, dangerous roads right next to networks of quiet back roads, and think, wtf?
People driving today is why I have a Road bike that lives on a trainer. I see cars swerving all over the road because InstaTweetFaceSnap is much more import than the commute. I'd rather take my chances reaching into a rattle snake hole then ride on public roads. Human life is of no value to people today.
I try to set the best example of being a courteous biker and driver always
but we all know the world is filled with dumbasses and un-self-aware people so what Aaron said. I'm not going to win that battle between a bike and a car
Luckily we have a plethora of pathways here so one can generally stay out of the way of gaper filled, swerving RV's and get a nice riding fix
I've also probably told this story before but it's so good it's worth telling again.
A couple big, tall, pro athlete guys were riding up the snake river canyon on their road bikes and some rednecks in a big truck threw some McDonalds garbage at them and swerved and called them fags or something as they drove by......then the riders roll into town and as they pass Albertson's they spot the truck and proceed to wait for them outside and pound the shit out of them. brings a smile to my face every time I think of the story and it was like 15 yrs ago
I also sat on a jury for a criminal case several yrs ago for a guy that was harassing bikers, swerving and intimidating them. didn't take us long to find him guilty and he spent some time in jail. found out afterwards that he also was found to be abusive to his teenage son. fucking bullies that take people's lives into their own hands is why I have zero desire to road bike along with cars
Riding home from work last night, the word "fucking faggot" was screamed by a passing motorist. I didn't even know people used that term anymore. Riding = learning.
Note: I was appx 3' off the lane..I wasn't impeding anything. Unless you wanted to drive on the shoulder.
Most likely a Trump supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
Had my share of close calls on the road bike as well. Assholes are Assholes regardless of how many wheels they have. i've seen asshole downtown fixie riding jimmy john delivery guys almost get hit- and they are the worst. i've also had asshole rednecks yell things and swerve close to me out on country roads. i'm honestly more scared out on country roads then in the city. to me- safe city riding is all about route choice. i'm always amazed at the people riding their bikes down 700 east here in salt lake city between south temple and 5000 south. 6 lane road- no bike lanes. literally one block away there is a protected bike route with less traffic and the same amount of lights. amazing. and i'm sure they think every driver is the asshole- pick a better route dumbass!
Or a rich high school student.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
Safe city riding is also about the speed of the vehicles around you. When I used to bike commute in DC, I actually felt safest on some of the main thoroughfares at rush hour, because I could match or exceed the speed of traffic, even on my single speed. 700 east traffic speeds are not something I'm comfy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCMunchie
The street "names" in SLC are not something I'm comfy with. What's wrong with Elm, and Maple, and the developer's mistress' name?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
It can definitely be a little disorienting at first when you find yourself standing at, say, the corner of E 500 S and S 500 E. Once you learn it though it's grid system FTW all day every day.
The nexus of the universeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
The road I feel the safest when riding around SLC is Redwood. Super wide, super fast, essentially full-lane shoulder, wide enough that you can usually ride on the right side of the inevitable debris pile. I shit myself when crossing 700E, can't imagine riding on it. Safe riding around SLC is a bit counter-intuitive...
As a side note, I was following some SUV coming out of LCC last week (going north on Wasatch), 5PM, bikers everywhere. Driver proceeds to drift into oncoming traffic, makes it about halfway across the median before the honking gets her attention, and gets back in her lane. We go another 200', right by the fire station, and there's a roadie cruising along on the shoulder which is really wide at this point. Super-focused lady starts drifting right and gets clear off the road and fully onto the shoulder. She ends up going around the biker on the right side (!!!!) and keeps heading straight for a giant power pole, lifts her nose from her phone just in time to not clip it, makes a hard left, skids back on the road inches in front of the bike, slides her tail in oncoming traffic again, manages to get her rig straight without rolling it, and speeds off to the light and bails towards Bengal blvd.
I pulled up next to the biker who was stopped on the shoulder to see if he was OK. He had the look of someone who just made it across death's door but somehow stumbled backwards and lived. Crazy lady never even noticed him. Might sell my road bike after that.