Telemark skiing is dead.

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Originally Posted by andy m

Good point about those plastic pieces in the pivot-adjustment channel -- I forgot those had disappeared in the Axl. Also, the Axl has two springs in the rear vs. the one spring in the front for the HH -- that probably makes a difference in binding stresses.

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If you take the heel throw off your AXLs there is a thin “line” that the throw sits in that is a fail point. Check it every 25 days or so and if you see a crack order a new heel throw before it fails. This is the only issue I’ve found w AXLs. That and don’t over tighten the throw as that small piece the hex screw sits in will crack. That won’t leave you stranded though.

I also had to rebuild the cabling channel underfoot but I bought that pair used so I can’t take credit for breaking the plastic feed the cable loops through under foot. That was another mag I don’t recall who was supportive in reimbursing me for the replacement parts.

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Originally Posted by andy m

P.S. cstefanic, I might be interested in the binding if you'll send it for the price of shipping. I still have a couple pairs of skis with Hammerheads on them, and it would be good to have some back-up parts, just in case.

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Sorry, I dropped it off with much amusement to Lost and Found. "You....found this?"

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Originally Posted by cstefanic

Sorry, I dropped it off with much amusement to Lost and Found. "You....found this?"

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Yeah, in 1999, just getting around to dropping it off.

That is so funny. It would be even funnier if Lost and Found already had the ski it ripped out of, along with the other ski and binding and boots.

Foot beds in tele boots.

I’ve always used custom foot beds in alpine boots and still do. When I was on 75mm I just used whatever superfeet were available at the time. I guess I was either tougher then or I’ve just become a pussy in my 30’s because just my right foot is killing me in my TX comps.

The only reason I haven’t swapped my customs from my alpine boots over is because they are fully rigid and I’m assuming that they will eventually break from the constant flexing of the bellow.

Question is if you went custom on footbed’s are they a full or partial footbed?


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Originally Posted by BeHuWe

Foot beds in tele boots.

I’ve always used custom foot beds in alpine boots and still do. When I was on 75mm I just used whatever superfeet were available at the time. I guess I was either tougher then or I’ve just become a pussy in my 30’s because just my right foot is killing me in my TX comps.

The only reason I haven’t swapped my customs from my alpine boots over is because they are fully rigid and I’m assuming that they will eventually break from the constant flexing of the bellow.

Question is if you went custom on footbed’s are they a full or partial footbed?


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Full, always. Work great.

I like my soles, and my wife has customs. Pull the intuitions out of the oven, jam in the full footbeds, into the shell and mold. Easy peasy. Neither of us have broken a footbed yet. YMMV

Never had any issues with failing foot beds/custom orthotics, in both 75 mm and NTN. Do it.

Footbeds in my TX Comps are a cork, flexible base. Had them for 20 years, still going strong. Footbeds in my T4s are a hard plastic base, leftover from my alpine days 20 years ago. Also still going strong.

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Originally Posted by BeHuWe

Foot beds in tele boots.

I’ve always used custom foot beds in alpine boots and still do. When I was on 75mm I just used whatever superfeet were available at the time. I guess I was either tougher then or I’ve just become a pussy in my 30’s because just my right foot is killing me in my TX comps.

The only reason I haven’t swapped my customs from my alpine boots over is because they are fully rigid and I’m assuming that they will eventually break from the constant flexing of the bellow.

Question is if you went custom on footbed’s are they a full or partial footbed?

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I have > half a doz footbeds both off the shelf & custom so I've used both ^^ it kinda depends on what there is room for in the boot

I am a Sole man they have a lot of arch support for my falt feet, I need the support so I don't mold them, its possible to sand the grey foam off the bottom of just the toe area on a sole and the neoprene top lasts a very long time, i havent worn out any Sole product

If you are worried about your customs I would look for a full off-the-shelf foot bed that matches your custom

tele is not dead

it just smells funky

If you have full custom footbeds for alpine I can’t imagine not swapping them into your tele boots.

I molded an intuition with a custom bed once.
Fucked up the forefoot. But I just heated and flattened that after the intuition molding.

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

If you have full custom footbeds for alpine I can’t imagine not swapping them into your tele boots.

I molded an intuition with a custom bed once.
Fucked up the forefoot. But I just heated and flattened that after the intuition molding.

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Foot beds always go inside the liner? So far I have just depended on a proper shell fit and then a good liner that can be molded with heat. As the liner packs out I use thicker socks instead of a do over. Triple E width but so far so good. I guess my feet aren't too weird.

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Originally Posted by ~mikey b

tele is not dead

it just smells funky

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Always has

I had cans of Cold Smoke beer leak into my t-race boots during a flight and ferment for weeks prior to unpacking boot bag, so have the tele until smelly covered.
Put cans in plastic bags prior to sliding in boot for flights now. :-)

How’d it taste? It’s kinda like a whitewater boating thing, right?

You are trying to do it fast before the liner cools so sometimes getting the foot bed into the liner and then the foot into the boot is a probelm

SO I tape the footbed to my foot with masking tape and cover the combo with a thin sock which it makes it faster/ easyier to get everthing into the boot fast & correct

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You are trying to do it fast before the liner cools so sometimes getting the foot bed into the liner and then the foot into the boot is a probelm

SO I tape the footbed to my foot with masking tape and cover the combo with a thin sock which it makes it faster/ easyier to get everthing into the boot fast & correct

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This is how I’ve done it since the late 90’s. Also taped toe cap inside thin sock.

Some custom insoles are very sensitive to heat and (apparently) will deform at the heat level typical for cooking intuitions. I’ve seen bootfitters put those on ice before jamming them into a hot liner.

My last couple of molds with Intuition liners involved a sock full of rice heated in the microwave and then dropped into the liner which stays in the boot. Allow to heat the liner for a bit and then remove bag and insert foot. The old method of removing and heating in the oven has resulted in wrinkles in the past.

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Originally Posted by tigerstripe40

Got any tips?
I found I had to step on the back of my ski to be able to get the boot into the front bale and compress the brakes well enough to get the binding to close and even then it would be an exercise in all of the swear words I know to get them to latch properly.

I removed the brakes and I can step in first time very time.

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Put your pole in the tour switch to have something to push against.

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Originally Posted by tigerstripe40

Got any tips?
I found I had to step on the back of my ski to be able to get the boot into the front bale and compress the brakes well enough to get the binding to close and even then it would be an exercise in all of the swear words I know to get them to latch properly.

I removed the brakes and I can step in first time very time.

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I demoed rottafella freeride with brakes amd found the similar issue. When I bought my setup I got outlaws without brakes and used my old leashes. I step right in, and if I have any issue I pull back on the leash and step in. Need my hand on the leash anyway to clip it.

Some folks use no leash I've seen.

My issue is no leash anchor on my new NTN boots. The guy at the shop put a loop of metal wire around the lowest buckle. Is that what others are doing?

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Originally Posted by brown

Put your pole in the tour switch to have something to push against.

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Yep. Had my first day on freshly mounted Outlaws with brakes last week and this worked fine. Little rearward pressure on the tour switch dish to hold ski while i push my toe in. I love these things.

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Originally Posted by jhyatt

Some folks use no leash I've seen.

My issue is no leash anchor on my new NTN boots. The guy at the shop put a loop of metal wire around the lowest buckle. Is that what others are doing?

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Metal loop or go straight to the lowest buckle if the leash fits. Crispi’s for some reason don’t have a dedicated leash point, but in hundreds of uses and several hard fall releases, I find the leashes break before the buckle.

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Originally Posted by bio-smear

Yep. Had my first day on freshly mounted Outlaws with brakes last week and this worked fine. Little rearward pressure on the tour switch dish to hold ski while i push my toe in. I love these things.

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Or .... simply catch your ski tip with your pole basket. Works fine with both Freerides and OutlawXs.

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