Thanks. I’ll print and confirm when I can.
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Thanks. I’ll print and confirm when I can.
If anybody is looking to mount a Salomon Z10 you can use the Salomon template in Post 1 but don’t drill the 2 holes closest to the single hole on the toe. You also don’t drill the single hole on the centerline for the heel. I used a template that stevied made to confirm
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A note on this, it's not quite that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyderjon
The toe for the kingpin and the alpinist have the pin line in a different place, fuck knows why.
The shop jig has different boot center marks on it for each binding.
Note. I have only used a jigarex with kingpin plate so your mileage may vary. Please check twice!!!!
I've been fucking around on some plywood and here is what I find.
If you use the kingpin plate you end up at about +8mm from the line due to the different pin line of the toe.
This puts you at the very very edge of the adjustment for the rear with you having to wind it all the way in, it might even be one click into the spring travel for the length compensation.
The solution is to mount the toe, if you are using a template (i'm guessing) or jigarex, at a -8mm line, and the heel using the regular line. (I'm lucky my wife's touring boot is 17mm bsl shorter so with the jigarex I just use her boot for the toe and my boot for the heel without having to move the jig).
Then when you put your boot in you will be centered right on the line and the heel piece will be about 8mm or so back from its fully forwards position, which is right in the middle of its 15mm travel.
Hope this helps!!!
Oh quick addition. Only drill the 2 rearmost heel holes using the jigarex. The front 2 you will have to measure and mark.
This was posted in another thread, but I’m putting it here because this is where I come for the info. It might be already posted here, but just to be sure...
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Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
I see that the DEMO version of the Marker has changed; what about the standard version? Still the same template (Griffon)? Thanks
Here are the measured values for a pair of Salomon MTN bindings that I received two days ago. Measured proximal edges of mounting holes, then distal edges of mounting holes.
Toe:
Along ski axis, proximal hole edges: 32.24, 32.41, 32.31, 32.29. Average = 32.29mm
Along ski axis, distal hole edges: 43.88, 43.84, 43.90, 44.01. Average = 43.9mm
Across ski axis, proximal hole edges: 34.23, 34.28, 34.18, 34.25. Average = 34.24mm
Across ski axis, distal hole edges: 45.93, 45.96, 45.90, 45.93. Average = 45.93mm
Therefore:
Hole pattern is rectangular.
Hole diameter is 5.83mm
Hole center distance along ski axis is 38.10mm
Hole center distance across ski axis is 40.08mm
Blueprint values are probably 38mm x 40mm
Heel:
Along ski axis, proximal hole edges: 52.20, 52.15, 52.15, 52.15. Average = 52.16mm
Along ski axis, distal hole edges: 63.61, 63.62, 63.67, 63.67. Average = 63.64mm
Across ski axis, proximal hole edges: 21.22, 21.24, 21.25, 21.24. Average = 21.24mm
Across ski axis, distal hole edges: 32.76, 32.77, 32.77, 32.75. Average = 32.76mm
Therefore:
Hole pattern is rectangular.
Hole diameter is 5.75mm
Hole center distance along ski axis is 57.90mm
Hole center distance across ski axis is 27.00mm
Blueprint values are probably 58mm x 27mm
Those for Atomic Backland bindings should be similar.
There are marks that denote 30mm of adjustment range, but I found this through playing with the bindings:Quote:
Originally Posted by lucknau
With brakes on the heel, there is ~33mm (or just shy) of adjustment range from being bottomed-out to the adjustment bolt (i.e. adjusted rearmost) to lightly touching the plastic brake base (i.e. adjusted foremost). With the heel adjusted foremost, the brake lock-down lever will still work by passing right between the retention pins, but it's pretty close. I have no idea if this will change with wear.
With the brake-less base on the heel, there are a couple of protruding plastic tabs (that retain the base to the binding heel in a retail setting) that reduce the adjustment range by ~2mm (so ~31mm). That said, these tabs seem non-essential for the functionality of the installed binding, so I think they can be shaved to regain the lost ~2mm of adjustment range if needed.
Does anyone have Tyrolia SP120 DEMO binding paper template?
Waiting...
Thanks a lot!
http://www.slidewright.com/Bindings/Tyrolia/Head_PRD12.jpg[/IMG]
First of all, thank you so much, Alpinord!
They are different. I compared the Tyrolia SP120 with some paper templates. The HEEL of Tyrolia SP120 Demo is the same as Tyrolia Attack 13 Demo (the positions of the screws), but the TOE of it does not match (the distances between the four screws 口 25mm, 75mm, 27mm, 75mm)
In fact I just do not know whether the distance between the center line and the first two screws on the heel of Tyrolia Attack 13 Demo is the same as that of the SP120. If they are the same, I can figure out all the dimensions on heel.
The official website says that the template jig SP2003W can be used. If I can find the paper template of SP2003W jig, it should also work.
Many thanks!
Mounting up some RTMs for the grom, but I can’t find a proper template for a Marker 4.5 EPS binding. The toe matches the Schizo, but the heels are totally different. Any suggestions where I can find one?
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I think the Marker M series template might work
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mWa...w?usp=drivesdk
Thanks. I did end up using that one, and was able to make it work after playing with the print scaling a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucknau
I'm having a hell of a time finding a decent vipec/tecton template. Can't get the one on slidewright to print correctly.
From the Powder Guide template library?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
I downloaded the Vipec template, hit print, page set up, letter size, 'actual scale', print and it's spot on. What scale choices do you have with your printer driver?
I use a Mac. I selected scaling at 100%. Ended up printing it 4 times to no avail. It auto rotated the pdf to the page.
Weird I just opened the vipec template from the link you posted and it’s totally different from the one I tried to print.
Sent you a copy of the one I have. All I had was there auto generated CL email. Let me know if you don’t receive it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
How off scale is the print?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
Examples: If it's too small, ie measure 95mm instead of 100mm, print at 100/95=105%
If it's too large, ie measure 105mm instead of 100mm, print at 100/105=95%.
It only printed the middle of the page and it was the two templates on top of each other. Got it under control.
Got it, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by STLHD
Found a template for Tyrolia Ambition mount; on Pugski of all places...
https://www.pugski.com/threads/tyrol...-advice.10545/
Anyone have line of sight on a template for Rossignol 120 Axium DEMO binders?
Bump for a Marker Alpinist template. Looked back a couple pages and it sounds like a junk show using the toe of a king pin template due to the different pin line. Checking to see if anyone sourced one yet, not finding much on the webz.
Anybody have a line on a Plum Race 165/170/Oazo template? There are Plum paper templates floating around which work for the toes but not the heels. I can freehand the heels but would rather use a complete template if possible.
Hi guys! I'm back (sort of). Not spending a ton of time on TGR, but I would be more than happy to edit the first post to update it. I don't really have time to comb through the 50 pages to see what's up. If there is a volunteer to consolidate all the links to other templates, I can do the editing to the post. The pain in the neck the first time through was I couldn't find a good file hosting site for everything so I ended up using throwaway posts in padded room with attachments to get the files into the site. Not sure I have time for all that again, would be appreciated to do it that way so the links don't break over time.
^^^Solid people right there. Worth helping out for the collective for sure. Good to see you back Jon.
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Hi guys!!! I need mounting papar template for Marker Alpinist.... can you help me???
Thanks alot!!!
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Originally Posted by lucknau
I've verified with my bindings and it turned out that front pin is not in "full front" position and could be moved ≈1,5mm forward. Did that and mounted fine.
Without printing out template and holding it up to the ski, is there a way to judge if existing holes in a ski will interfere with a new mount? For example buying a ski with two mounts for two different types of bindings, looking to add a third at a different BSL - what's the likelihood of having an issue drilling new holes?
Since the search function here is atrocious can anyone confirm the template for Tyrolia Attack2, specifically the 11s. Is there one here?
Does this Tyrolia/Head template on the Slidewright website work, which I believe is the same one above in the first post for Tyrolia...?
https://www.slidewright.com/powdergu...ing-templates/
Over on the Shift nerdout thread there was an argument about where the button should be, because the factory jig is 1.5mm back (64.5mm) from my empirically derived spec (66mm). As a result I made the template match the jig, although I think it doesn't matter (hasn't mattered yet, anyway), because mine and others' are mounted just like yours. I don't like it 1.5mm back because the button makes less contact surface with the binding plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by hryamzik
I did the template for the Demo binding, and while this probably doesn't actually answer your question, I thought I'd note that on the demo version, the Attack 13 and the Attack2 13 [MNC] both share the same mounting pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soups
I'm pretty sure you're asking about the non-demo version.
The best option is simply to print out the template - after ensuring your scaling is correct.
Then simply put the binding on the printed template. If the mount holes line up, you're probably fine.
If you really want to be sure, mount to a scrap piece of wood.
That is probably 15 additional minutes, and pretty much guarantees you will catch anything that's sketchy before whacking your skis. [2x4's at the borg are a few bucks, and that's a whole lot cheaper than your dentist-kind DPS's]
If you are going to use a paper template it would be real easy to use the kingpin one.Quote:
Originally Posted by hick
The heel screw pattern is different on the Kingpin vs. the Alpinist. Does anyone have a source for an Alpinist template? Touring binging used to come with paper templates but I don’t think they do anymore.
Holy crap - fantastic link! Quoted again so that people can bookmark the page if they like me had not. Thanks to Knut and you alike :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
anyone have a template for the Plum Yak?
I received the Plum Yak 14 Binding Template from Plum.
Just email their website.
I take it that the Yak has a wider hole pattern than the Guide?Quote:
Originally Posted by ma469c
... Thom
Searched the thread for an Alpinist template with no luck. Anyone?
Yeah I didn't have any luck finding anything either. I just replaced my Kingpins with Alpinists, so my toe was a direct fit but I had to drill 4 new holes for the heel. I wasn't confident I could keep the heel squared up if I freehanded it, so I made this PDF for the heel. You could combine that with a Kingpin toe mounting plate. Only thing you'd need to deal with is getting the BSL right, but that shouldn't be too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongle
Hope this is helpful!