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The rt 11 evo has toe clamping force adjustment, call it release adjustment if you want. It’s basically a raider evo that goes to 11 and is about an ounce lighter. I would go for previous gen raiders, they’re only 315 on snowcountry right now. The new tyrolia almonte also looks promisingQuote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
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I was thinking the raiders were a bit overkill for the setup, but I suppose the weight difference really is pretty close.
Telemark Pyrenees has the 2025 Crest 10 for 365, but that last pair of raiders on snowcountry looks pretty good (and has the right brake width)
RT Evo all the way if price is no concern. That binding is legit.
Hmm, if this year's model shows up with a decent price on one of the Euro sites in the next few days., that might be the way I go. Or if BD gets anything back in stock that works with the discount code I'm sitting on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
Telemark Pyrnenees had a big ATK restock in the past week--they were down to slim pickings when I first started my binding research and now they have a bunch of models/colors/brake widths.
I would not expect BD to be carrying ATK this year, it looks like ATK is taking over their own distribution in the US
Oh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
I noticed last year they stopped doing special BD versions. They just sold them as ATK like they do with fritschi. Maybe that's why.
yeah no more BD distribution
I’ve got a potentially stupid frankenbinding question: has anyone tried mounting a gara titan toe to a plum Karibou toe plate? I think the mounting patterns are .5mm off but I’m not 100% sure.
Unfortunately don't have the answer to your question, but I have successfully reused holes in a ski, replacing Plum toes with Trab. Dynafit made toe plates that fit Trab perfectly several years ago, there are surely a few still kicking around. Aski made them for a period of time as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ma8103
Thanks! I’ll look around for thoseQuote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
I haven't done that exactly, but I've mixed and matched Dynafit/Trab toes on inserts/plates and just ignored the 0.5mm difference with no ill effects. Just use some Vibratite or similar if you're not planning to routinely remove them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ma8103
Dynafit and Trab toes are both 27mm wide so they align perfectly, Plum are 26.5mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by skis_the_trees
Are you sure? My recollection which Skimoco seems to back up is that the old 5 hole Dynafit toes were 30 x 26.5 for the main 4 holes. Plum is 30 x 26.5 and Trab/ATK/others are 30 x 27.
When doing a standard mount the 0.5mm is well within the error of the process even with a jig. Adjustable plates are very accommodating due to their nature i.e. adjustable track Dynafit/Aski ones. Inserts and solid plates are the least accommodating but still tolerate 0.5mm difference with ease (split between the holes, it's only 0.25mm difference aka 0.010") as long as you don't have rotational error of the position of all the holes.
You're right, I was incorrect, I mixed up the length and width. Plum, Trab, and Dynafit are all exactly 30mm wide so the track-style toe plates would work perfectly with all of them but the Plum plate would still have 0.5mm difference in the height of the binding with a Trab toe. I bet Skimo Co would test it out if you ask, they are usually very helpful with these types of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by skis_the_trees
I have a set of the Aski toe plates that were designed to work with Speed Rad and LTR toes, and it appears that the track width would work with an ATK Trofeo toe, which (as mentioned above) is the same pattern as the Trab Titan toes. (30x27)Quote:
Originally Posted by ma8103
However, the hardware that came with the plates is too thick to pass through the screw holes of the BD Helio toes (same as ATK) that I currently have lying around.
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I didn’t realize that the screw holes on a Radical toe piece were larger in diameter. That’s an interesting consideration, and it might factor in when adjusting a binding toe for alignment after mounting.
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Anyone else getting instagram ads for the 5ive binding Kickstarter? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDh6B...c4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Slick pics and video but they avoid showing what’s going on at the toepiece. I was able to get this frame from the video:
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350g for the Freeride version supposedly. :shrug:
With that binding^^ and ATKs new hybrid coming out, what a cool time for new development in touring bindings! Love the competition!
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I’ve got a pair of barely used speed turns. I shimmed the toe, but still hate them. Thinking of building a Franken bindings with the toes and plum [emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]] heels. What’s the collective opinion on the [emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]]s? Set up would be on a spring ski
So you somehow screw a threaded thing into the pinhole on your boot to slide into that c-shaped connector? Actually looking closer, there appears to be a metal piece attached across the front of the boot the has the threaded part. Looks great!Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
@Altacoup - 10+ years skiing Radical toes and Plum race heels on adjustment tracks. really no dowside on a light/pow setup IMO, unless you really like high heel elevators. If you use the K14 Kreutzpiste plate w/ a Plum 150 heel, it will drop into the back speed rad holes. Pretty sweet...
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I thought I remembered you having a race heel set up. With the custom freeride spacers you use do you think that setup would work good on firm snow? I’m looking at doing this on a spring set up. How much does the adapter plate raise the pins on the heels. Very sensitive to ramp on tech bindings. I personally believe all high risers should be banned, I hate stupid steep skin tracks.
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Echoing MO with pairing Rad toes to race heels. I'm on R170 heels and the delta is sweet unshimmed. Plum has a wider plate for the 170 which drops straight into rad/guide holes. The plate itself is close to 4 mm thick. The Skimo pin height table shows the 170 (with a mount plate) being 3.5 mm higher than the 150 (without plate).
Hence, Plum race heels without plate would yield a zero pin height delta when paired with Rad toes. No bueno in my book.
No freeride spacer on my setup, zero complaints this far, but they're on lighter skis...
So just one guys opinion and all that... but...Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
1). I really feel the difference on firm snow and greatly prefer bindings setup with either a heel pad or 0-gap/forward pressure or ideally both
2). The K14 plate is 6mm thick and I am 100% 0-2mm delta kinda guy, so I really like the R150 on k14 + radical toe as I can use the standard 5.5mm thick radical toe shim and keep the delta around 1mm.
Along with the race binding setup above, I've been digging the Alpinist bindings 0-gap and forward pressure spring which makes the binding ride really nicely in variable snow. Them w/ an ATK universal heel spacers skis great on skinnier skis.
Curious how you get the atk universal heel spacers to work with the Alpinist. For my current soon to be boots, even with a 6mm heel shim, the AL05 filed down as far as I dated to still hold screws and it moved to lowest position it was still tight.
Yeah I love the pair of alpinist I have. Between the ramp and better damping it’s by far my favorite tech binding. But I thinking of ways to reuse my old speed turns. I also have a pair of hojis that were quiver killed for radicals, think I’ll try the race heel set up on those as they have radicals that I find completely unskiable.
It really depending on the boot. Both of my little boots (which are not mnc) fit just fine, but my xt3 boot has a 5mm thicker heel and doesn’t fitQuote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
Word! Sounds like an elegant solution to what you are looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
The brake on alpinists contact the sole of my hoji boots and act as a freeride spacer of sorts.
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Or you could use an organically destroyed set of alpinist brakes & glue some 1mm - 1.5mm PTFE sheet on it (whatever works to barely touch your boot sole -0.5mm).
First tour today, didn't fall apart & felt great on some firm wind buff.
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...=alpinist+heel
Here's a few takeaways from skiing with the vario 2. Toe is amazing. It really shines in sketchy transitions where you are repelling. It's also excellent in sticky coastal snow. Just about every other binding will get snow under the springs. Vario the toe is virtually jam proof.
Heel:
With brakes. The brake is kinda useless. It also gets packed with snow almost every time. The ramp is a bit too high for my liking.
Without brakes. You have to turn it to have a riser, and the only way to turn it is by hand. Booo.
The elasticity is great. I really wish it functioned more like the marker where you have a flat mode when it's turned backwards, then a riser when you flip it. Any ideas how I could modify it to make it turn like dynafit with a pole?
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Selling some new Vario.2 heels in case someone wants a backup pair or wants to experiment for science! Also listed a few other tidbits
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...s-Heels-Brakes