Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

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Originally Posted by ASmileyFace

I really like the idea of the three ski quiver. That is how I am trying to build mine out at least. Three ski BC quiver, three ski inbounds... with one or two weirdos in reserve. In reality, my quiver looks more like n+1 without a lot of sense lol.

I don't have a low tide DD right now but am pondering what ski to put in that place. I really liked the MFree 108 (was my DD two seasons ago) and was thinking MFree 99 to replicate that decent edge hold when you need it, loose when you need it, but chargy-lite feeling the 108 does so well, but am not convinced the 99 is the right choice. What HL ski fits that bill ~90 underfoot? All the RC skis are probably too much for me personally and I don't love -10 mount points.

My pow ski is the 184cm Aysm BG. I love this ski for the kind of pow skiing we do mid winter in Silverton. Lots of tight trees and weird chokes, but occasionally big wide open alpine charging. This ski handles all of that really well. I haven't been on it in over a year so we will see how I like it next year once I can A&B it vs the FR100. I picked up one of the BC Swallowtail 120s this year, but never had a chance to mount it unfortunately. That ski looked dialed. If I like it as much as I think I will for the backcountry, I have a feeling the BGs will be on their way out for a FR120 instead.

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Originally Posted by arild

The reverse camber of the BMT122 is pretty low rise/gradual, right? If so, that would make a lot of sense the way you describe them wanting to be driven, even though you're pretty far forward on them.

And yes, the tapers of those are about double, both tip and tail, compared to the 110, but I think it's more of a pintail thing, as you suggest- the BMTs are, at least on paper (sorry, haven't skied them, unfortunately) some of the most directional and pinned skis out there, at least talking in terms of the tip/tail width relationship, which usually, ime, isn't very conducive to very upright stance skiing. Depends a bit on where the sidecut center/rec mount is, though.

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A

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Actually the rocker profile on the 122 is a departure from the low-slung siblings of other BMTs and they have a pretty pronounced rocker profile. From what I've seen they actually look somewhat similar to the FR110 but I haven't seen those in person so I'm not sure.

I'll try to remember to post a pic some time.

Edit: added a pic.

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Hah, cool. That's actually more intune with the R family of profiles (r120/110/105), so the fr will have more splay in both ends.

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Originally Posted by hoarhey

Heard mention of adjustment in technique to ski the matched radius camber aspect of the FR110’s, or 110’s in general.

Would any of you consider describing that adjustment in this thread?


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All my other skis are -10 to -12 mounts and when I got into steep (>40*) runs I was struggling with feeling like I was going over the handle bars. The advice Marshal shared with me was: try opening your feet just like 4” instead of “thinking” about stance and weighting and such. I find that just opening up a little gets the weighting right and gives the right stance naturally.

For carving I found that leaning hard into my boots to pressure the tips before tipping the ski over didn’t really work on this ski like it does more traditional skis. I had to really focus on early edging and rolling my feet over. Especially focusing on leading with the inside leg pinky toe. This actually made me a better skier on all my other skis too.

Anyone have a comparison of these versus the Moment Meridian?

I love the Meridian but I think that adding some weight to it could make it even better. I picked up the Line BO104 this year and that was quite a hefty ski, but I also really liked it because it smoothed everything out.

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Originally Posted by meepmoop24

Anyone have a comparison of these versus the Moment Meridian?

I love the Meridian but I think that adding some weight to it could make it even better. I picked up the Line BO104 this year and that was quite a hefty ski, but I also really liked it because it smoothed everything out.

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A touch less quick but much more damp. I think it’s got a touch better edge hold as well.

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Originally Posted by SkiJitsu

The advice Marshal shared with me was: try opening your feet just like 4” instead of “thinking” about stance and weighting and such. I find that just opening up a little gets the weighting right and gives the right stance naturally.

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Really glad to hear that tip helped unlock them for you!!!

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Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll

A touch less quick but much more damp. I think it’s got a touch better edge hold as well.

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Would the 186 FR110 be about equivalent to the 187 Meridian?

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Originally Posted by meepmoop24

Would the 186 FR110 be about equivalent to the 187 Meridian?

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In what way?

Length wise, yes, they are about the same in a tape pull.

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Originally Posted by Marshal Olson

Really glad to hear that tip helped unlock them for you!!!

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What does "opening your feet" mean? [emoji28]

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Originally Posted by eSock

What does "opening your feet" mean? [emoji28]

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I’m guessing to make sure your feet are apart that much (4”). Widen your stance so that there are 4” between your feet


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^^^ maybe ironic.
But I found on the FR110 I needed to close my stance.
Been wide for decades. FR liked it closer. Not boot touching weirdo monoskiing.
That and equal weighting as if you were in powder even if it is cut up already

Unless you’re trying to carve. In which case go super wide and extreme angulation. Gorilla turns.

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

^^^ maybe ironic.
But I found on the FR110 I needed to close my stance.
Been wide for decades. FR liked it closer. Not boot touching weirdo monoskiing.
That and equal weighting as if you were in powder even if it is cut up already

Unless you’re trying to carve. In which case go super wide and extreme angulation. Gorilla turns.

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Super fun to do!

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I just got some FR110s, I'm super stoked. They were some of the most intuitive skis I've ever been on. Although I didn't ski them switch, they felt a lot more jibby than my Wildcat 108s. I only put 5 runs on them, but they felt like a Shreditor 112 mixed with an old Hoji.

FR120s seem like they'd be amazing for deep resort days. I want.

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Originally Posted by forumskier

I just got some FR110s, I'm super stoked. They were some of the most intuitive skis I've ever been on. Although I didn't ski them switch, they felt a lot more jibby than my Wildcat 108s. I only put 5 runs on them, but they felt like a Shreditor 112 mixed with an old Hoji.

FR120s seem like they'd be amazing for deep resort days. I want.

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Yes, you do.
I have R110s & R120STs and they are probably the best resort Pow skis ever!

:D

I found a funny text that I sent to Shaaarp after ripping up ALTA regarding the R110 & R120ST:

???? to “?No doubt regarding yelling and hooting!

I think I made more animal noises today than ever!

Gorilla! AAHAAHAAH

Monkey! EeeeEeeeEEEE

Wolf! BAAWOOOOOOO!!!

Owl! Hoo-HOO hoo-HOO

Plus just plain crazy screaming Human!

AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!

So damn good.

Oh, and I found Gravy Boat.

So I was opining to mys3lf and all that I passed how it was:

"A Boat .. A Boat.
That is made out of Gravy.

A Boat ... A Boat
That is made out of Gravy?"


?So, if you want to make more crazy animal noises, these are the skis for you!

:D

Sounds like I need some Rs (105 & 110), on top of a wider set of FRs.

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Originally Posted by forumskier

Sounds like I need some Rs (105 & 110), on top of a wider set of FRs.

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This is what I did after two runs on FR120 ST’s I decided to order R110’s.

Then I got FR132’s, R99’s and just pre gamed some R85’s for low tide science.

Buying one pair only made me want more. Hand fiddling these masterpieces and recollecting how well they skied is not helping.

I've clicked on those 187 R120 STs in the outlet a few times now. Since I own/love 186 Bodacious in this spot, I wanted to stick with the FR profile on the 120s. MUST RESIST!

You are on the correct path. Marshal has started a cult of excellence with HL. I started 3 years ago with the Blossom pressed r99 & r87 but once I got a pair of fr132s in hand, I knew my quiver was destined to become all HL skis.

regarding the r120 st in the outlet…you want them I promise. There are just 5 pair of that shape/profile in existence. It is truly a sublime ride in pow/chop, float well & drive them from the ball of the foot. Mount position is apparently finicky but I’m at 84 cm from tail and couldn’t be happier. Mine are cold dead hands skis.
thank me later

They are gone now

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Originally Posted by forumskier

They are gone now

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Someone is happy.
I contemplated buying them as a backup pair and my pair is essentially brand new.

They're that good.

But if you like the FR rocker profile in the 110s then FR120ST is probably the way to go for you.

Whitehorse 110s in the outlet giving me some for real Ralph Bakshi vibes right about now...

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You know it! Exactly right.

I flexed those at Marshals picking up my ST's. They are sick, and i would probably own them if i had the funds.