Nordica Enforcers - TGR-Enough for Their Own Thread

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Bandit Man- is the new E 104 more of a handful in tight spots than the 104 Free? It is also interesting to hear that it is more loose in the tail given the shape. Also- what length did you have the most time on with the 104 Free- did you downsize to the new 104?

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I owned both the 186 and 191 E104 Free. Skied both quite a bit. Sold the 186 to a buddy as it just felt like it was lacking in stability and dampness. Still have the 191 E104 Free. I really like the added weight and slightly larger turn radius on the 191 E 104 Free, but don't feel like I need the extra length. I feel like the new 185 E104 skis closer to the feel of the original 191 E104 Free, but is somehow a quieter, smoother ride. I did size down with the new model and am really happy with that choice. The new 185 E104 is very manageable in tight spaces and perhaps a bit moreso than its predecessor since it skis looser in the tail.
Two of my favorite skis are the Volkl M102 and Dynastar MFree 108. The Volkl feels like it has no speed limit and feels great in firm and variable snow. It's not great in anything too soft or too deep. The MFree is amazing in soft, deep conditions, where it's loose and smeary nature makes for a capable but surprisingly manueverable tool. It can be pushed pretty hard on firmer snow, but isn't super comfortable there. I really want a ski that sits right in-between those too for my daily driver and I think the new E104 is the closest thing to satisfy that ask. Capable in firm and variable conditions with a high speed limit/high stability but still loose enough to take off-trail and enjoy the powder, soft chop, and sloppy seconds the day after a storm. I didn't expect this to the that ski, but am really pleased with them so far.

Not letting me quote but for PMMNazWIcoWA I'd definitely be skipping either Nordica and go for a 184cm/183cm Sender Free 110/MFree 112 instead. Similar stiffness to the Unleashed 108(stiffer than 110 Enforcer Free) but more stable and damp than either. Will also play better with a more forward mount point like you're wanting. Very playful yet still great carvers and versatile like Enforcers.

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Originally Posted by noslow

Not letting me quote but for PMMNazWIcoWA I'd definitely be skipping either Nordica and go for a 184cm/183cm Sender Free 110/MFree 112 instead. Similar stiffness to the Unleashed 108(stiffer than 110 Enforcer Free) but more stable and damp than either. Will also play better with a more forward mount point like you're wanting. Very playful yet still great carvers and versatile like Enforcers.

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Appreciate the response as always! Hard to really understand how much play you have with MP on various skis. Jeff from skiessentials, who raves about the U98 and U108, I believe has his personal U98 mounted +3 or or something like that. I am sure I could get away with going +2 on either, but agree SF110 or MFree 112 will probably be better for a more progressive mount. Been wanting to try the SF110 for a while anyways, but with the other skis in the similar width range I never snagged a pair.

I decided to make a new rule for myself, and that’s that every single new (or new to me pair of skis that isn’t already mounted at my BSL) is getting either demo Strives or Wardens first for me to dial in mount point to my preference and optimum. Once sales start hitting I’ll probably start hoarding both lol.

I also don’t live somewhere where demos are easy to come by, we have literally one event a year and outside of that, catch and release is the most practical way to demo.

Thanks very much Bandit Man. Seems like I would like the 185 104 as a replacement to my 191 E 104 frees if the time ever comes.

My dad (about to turn 70 and he skis probably 80 days per year) is on the 185 E 104 free and he loves them. They are forgiving in that he can release a turn really easy so long as his tails are detuned and he doesn’t have to drive them very much to get them to turn.

Do you think the new E 104 has to be driven more than the E 104 free given the additional stiffness?

What are your thoughts on mount point on the E 104? I went +2 on the 191 E 104 Free to be more inline with the Moment Deathwish and Wildcats that I ski all the time and I’m very happy there since I feel I can pivot more easily. I haven’t had issues with float since the first day I skied them in pow- not sure what that was about, but they are doing great up to 5 or 6 inches of pow for me now.

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Do you think the new E 104 has to be driven more than the E 104 free given the additional stiffness? What are your thoughts on mount point on the E 104? I went +2 on the 191 E 104 Free to be more inline with the Moment Deathwish and Wildcats that I ski all the time and I’m very happy there since I feel I can pivot more easily. I haven’t had issues with float since the first day I skied them in pow- not sure what that was about, but they are doing great up to 5 or 6 inches of pow for me now.

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I would not describe the new 104 as needing to be driven harder due to the stiffer flex, but rather that you need to be a bit more attentive to the ski. The original 104 was quite the automatic carver, with a very easy to find sweet spot. The new 104 takes a little more to find the sweet spot, but is easy to manage once you figure it out. In tight or more technical terrain, I found the new 104 actually easier as it skis looser overall and isn't as eager to get on edge and carve. I really like that aspect of the new one. I read that the mount point of the new 104 is moved forward a bit and I have to admit, I prefer it to the old one and more rearward mount point. The new one feels like it floats in 6-inches or more of powder just as well (if not better) than the old version, despite the more forward mount.
All that being said, I think the new 104 is a bit more attuned to reward a more skilled skier versus the original, which worked for a wider range of skiers. Again, it just feels like you need to stay on top of it/pay attention to it.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

I would not describe the new 104 as needing to be driven harder due to the stiffer flex, but rather that you need to be a bit more attentive to the ski. The original 104 was quite the automatic carver, with a very easy to find sweet spot. The new 104 takes a little more to find the sweet spot, but is easy to manage once you figure it out. In tight or more technical terrain, I found the new 104 actually easier as it skis looser overall and isn't as eager to get on edge and carve. I really like that aspect of the new one. I read that the mount point of the new 104 is moved forward a bit and I have to admit, I prefer it to the old one and more rearward mount point. The new one feels like it floats in 6-inches or more of powder just as well (if not better) than the old version, despite the more forward mount. All that being said, I think the new 104 is a bit more attuned to reward a more skilled skier versus the original, which worked for a wider range of skiers. Again, it just feels like you need to stay on top of it/pay attention to it.

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Having been on the E99 and E104 do you feel there is still a place for your E99? A lot of the feedback I am seeing below is making me think I'd be love the E104 for a DD to handle most conditions (i.e. at Stevens Pass and traveling wherever). The thing that really has me interested in going E104 is it Blisters comparision of the E104 to the E99 suggesting the E104 "is easier to pivot from a variety of stances and its tail feels more forgiving." This while be sharing. the same stiff, charging nature with the E99.

Let me muddy this thread: hahaha. Kevo, go ski the 192 24/25 M-Free 108. First ski that I have jumped on in years and said to myself that I have to have this ski. Does all of the Enforcer damping while somehow being loose and precise at the same time. I skied it back to back with the new 189 QST 106 and came away saying that the QST is the most meh ski ever. I also skied it back to back with my E94. Different ski, but from a construction perspective the M-Free has all of the damping without the dead Enforcer feeling. Dont get me wrong, I like Enforcers, but....

Thanks everyone.

Seems like I would enjoy the new E 104 and also the MFree if it ever comes time to replace my 104 frees.

My dad would likely be looking for something a bit more forgiving than the new E 104 based on the descriptions in this thread.

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Originally Posted by MNazWIcoWA

Having been on the E99 and E104 do you feel there is still a place for your E99? A lot of the feedback I am seeing below is making me think I'd be love the E104 for a DD to handle most conditions (i.e. at Stevens Pass and traveling wherever). The thing that really has me interested in going E104 is it Blisters comparision of the E104 to the E99 suggesting the E104 "is easier to pivot from a variety of stances and its tail feels more forgiving." This while be sharing. the same stiff, charging nature with the E99.

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Good question. I was attracted to the new E99 based on the descriptions that it was (1) more composed and quiet than the previous version, (2) shedded a little weight, and (3) the increased rocker in the tail and expected increased looseness in deep snow. All those things turned out to be true and I would say the E99 is one of the most versatile all-mtn high-performance skis around today. More suspension and higher top end than the version 1 E100, but easier to ski, more damp, and just as much (maybe more) stability than the last E100.
I had not even considered the new E104 until noslow started sharing this reviews here. Now I have both...again something I had not considered would happen this season. I think most people are going to prefer the E99. It makes more sense as a daily driver for most people. Since I live in the PNW and ski the same places as you, the slightly wider and looser E104 is more up my alley for a daily driver. I don't think I'd use them on a firmer or icy day as the E99 or even my Volkl M6 would out-shine them there, but if it is even a little soft and I plan to encounter softer, deeper snow off-trail, the E104 would get the nod. If it is really soft, then a'm grabbing my MFree108s and only running groomers to get back to the lift. Anyhow...do I need both new Enforcers? Probably not. I like them both, but really get excited to spend time on the E104 based on how it performance for the places and terrain I like to ski. I do find myself grabbing my E99s over my M6s, which I never thought I would do, so there's that.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

The new Enforcer one-o-four is a masterpiece. Wow.

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I knew it...I want! I was considering the E99 and probably would have gone with the 191 in that at 6' and 215 lbs. With the E104, I will go with the 185 as that works perfect with my trending to downsize in the charger ski category. Won't be this year but my next ski for sure. There is something about the way enforcer's hook up that makes me giggle. I have the E110 and like, cept it's a twin. Demod the E100 and it clicked immediatly. I would have never bought the old E104 because of the full twin. No version looks just right.

Agree with Bandits descriptions of the new Enforcer 104 and 99. Agree that many would like the bit quicker edge to edge 99 as a daily driver or if you have some 105mm plus skis above that. But if not, the E104 would make a great soft snow/smaller powder for many especially in the East. E104 would be a great Spring/crud ski too.

Saw Corbetts now has stock again of the E104 and many others and they will be going on heavy discount by mid March so jump on if you want a great deal!

Available now at around $500. Mine arrived today from Billings, ahem. The 104 weighs in at 2165 g at 179. 177.5 straight pull.

Love the feedback. I am less tempted to irresponsibly go and by the E104 in addition to the E99. Honestly, I've been incredibly happy with the E99 in a variety of conditions at Stevens Pass anyways. It'll def be a no brainer travel ski. Taking it up to Whistler to really test it in several weeks (really hope the snow forecasts start to favor the PNW and BC...).

Anyone able to compare Enforcer 110 to new Rustler 10? I know its not a exact comparison but looking for something a little more nimble in trees.
Ive had 2 pairs of E110 in 191 and never found them hard to ski, in fact I find them easier than a lot of my other skis but Im in Fernie for a month and looking for something a bit easier in the trees and tighter spots. I use my E110 at lake Louise and Sunshine where there is a lot more room to open it up and blast through everything.

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Originally Posted by Tony911

Anyone able to compare Enforcer 110 to new Rustler 10? I know its not a exact comparison but looking for something a little more nimble in trees. Ive had 2 pairs of E110 in 191 and never found them hard to ski, in fact I find them easier than a lot of my other skis but Im in Fernie for a month and looking for something a bit easier in the trees and tighter spots. I use my E110 at lake Louise and Sunshine where there is a lot more room to open it up and blast through everything.

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I owned the 191 Enforcer 110 and now own the current 186 Rustler 10. The Rustler could be a solid candidate for what you are after. The Rustler 10 is a lot lighter and feels like less ski than the longest E110. The R10 is great on firm snow and holds an edge well, but also has a lower speed limit and is far less damp than the E110. The R10 is great in tight spots and floats quite well for its 104-mm waist. The longer 192 R10 likely feels a bit more stout, but I'm pretty happy with the 186 for my needs. FWIW, the rocker profile on the R10 is very close to that of the Enforcer Free skis (104 and 110).

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

I owned the 191 Enforcer 110 and now own the current 186 Rustler 10. The Rustler could be a solid candidate for what you are after. The Rustler 10 is a lot lighter and feels like less ski than the longest E110. The R10 is great on firm snow and holds an edge well, but also has a lower speed limit and is far less damp than the E110. The R10 is great in tight spots and floats quite well for its 104-mm waist. The longer 192 R10 likely feels a bit more stout, but I'm pretty happy with the 186 for my needs. FWIW, the rocker profile on the R10 is very close to that of the Enforcer Free skis (104 and 110).

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Thanks, just the info I was looking for and I figured you would be the guy to answer.
I still have my E110 and a E99 but lately I have been using my Anomoly 88 a lot more for more conditions. Im probably going to sell my 99, I think the Anomoly 88 is a super versatile ski, I thought the 99 wa sthe be all end all ski but have changed my mind. On really steep hard pack I find the shovels a little vague, the 110 is more planted, but that is probably my technique.
Going to pick up the Rustlers tomorrow, really dont care for next years graphic, looks very Nordica.

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Originally Posted by Tony911

Thanks, just the info I was looking for and I figured you would be the guy to answer. I still have my E110 and a E99 but lately I have been using my Anomoly 88 a lot more for more conditions. Im probably going to sell my 99, I think the Anomoly 88 is a super versatile ski, I thought the 99 wa sthe be all end all ski but have changed my mind. On really steep hard pack I find the shovels a little vague, the 110 is more planted, but that is probably my technique. Going to pick up the Rustlers tomorrow, really dont care for next years graphic, looks very Nordica.

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Interesting to hear the feedback on the E99. I still feel the E99 is a damn good ski, albeit mostly for a 1-ski quiver. With lackluster conditions in the PNW (Stevens Pass specifically) Ive found myself wanting something narrower with more bite for hard pack, crusty off piste and groomers i.e. Enforcer 89, Anomoly 88, Commander 92, etc. Id rather have that and a 108-102 width ski for in a 2-ski quiver. Almost want to snag the Enforcer 89 or Anomoly 88 and, due to my local shop having 2 in stock, the Enforcer 110 Free. Will probably be posting my Enforcer 99 in 179 length soon as well.
Speaking of the narrower skis, does anyone have some more time on the Enforcer 89? Its obviously going to be great on piste, but I am curious how it does in some icy, hard pack off piste conditions (chutes, bumps, etc.). I would also love to know how it compares to others in the category such as the Anomoly 88 and Commander 92.

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Originally Posted by MNazWIcoWA

Interesting to hear the feedback on the E99. I still feel the E99 is a damn good ski, albeit mostly for a 1-ski quiver. With lackluster conditions in the PNW (Stevens Pass specifically) Ive found myself wanting something narrower with more bite for hard pack, crusty off piste and groomers i.e. Enforcer 89, Anomoly 88, Commander 92, etc. Id rather have that and a 108-102 width ski for in a 2-ski quiver. Almost want to snag the Enforcer 89 or Anomoly 88 and, due to my local shop having 2 in stock, the Enforcer 110 Free. Will probably be posting my Enforcer 99 in 179 length soon as well. Speaking of the narrower skis, does anyone have some more time on the Enforcer 89? Its obviously going to be great on piste, but I am curious how it does in some icy, hard pack off piste conditions (chutes, bumps, etc.). I would also love to know how it compares to others in the category such as the Anomoly 88 and Commander 92.

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When I got my E99 last year right after the release I thought they were the ultimate 1 ski for here in Alberta. Now, because Im so OCD on the next best thing I am convinced they are not to the point Im selling them.
I had Brahma 88 which again I thought were great until i had access to a pair of Anomoly 88 last spring. I now have the A88 which for my style of skiing (old racer) is my new love. Way more of a all around ski and if we are honest suits the conditions we see (here in Alberta)most of the time. Skied them today at Kimberly BC in 6 inches of creamy powder and trees at top then transitioned on to shitty manmade ice with no hiccup.
I still love my enforcer 110 191 cm, feels way more manouverible than it should for its width and length, best ski ever for high speed charging through garbage snow, great in moguls considering its size, but now with my age (65) a bit tiring by the end of the day.
I will still choose (for now) my Anomoly 88 for most conditions but since luckily I can afford it I will try the Rustler 10 for the conditions here at Fernie and break out the 110 for springblasting at Sunshine and Louise.
Im going to try a 3 ski quiver Anomoly 88,for most conditions Rustler 10 for B.C. trees and powder and Enforcer 110 for high speed crud and slush at Sunshine and Louise
I have changed my opinion, only 1 ski? Anomoly 88, fantastic ski.
Yes I can drive a nail with a screwdriver but why wouldnt a use a hammer? I know, random but my answer to my son who thinks he only needs one ski, a Rustler 11.

Tony911-I would be swapping out the E99 for a 185cm E104. Would give you more ease in the trees with more tail splay and rocker than the E99 but would also improve stability, crud performance and damping. The Rustler 10 has more rocker and tail splay than the E104 but lacks its mass and torsional rigidity. So slight edge in the trees on the Rustler 10 but everything else the E104 would surpass it.
Have the Anomoly 88 for hard snow/no new snow, the E104 for trees, Spring Skiing, killing afternoon crud and maybe a bit of new snow and the Enforcer 110 for powder days. Ski at Lake Louise(here now), Sunshine, Fernie, Kicking Horse and Revelstoke and that 3 ski quiver would kill it anywhere here.
MN-The new Enforcer 89 more on piste biased, so look to the wider 94 and up or the Anomoly line as they are now more off piste friendly than before. More tail rocker and splay in the Anomoly line vs the previous lines and only the Enforcer 99 got that treatment in the new line.

I skied the E110 almost every day of our massive 22/23 season. I wish they did not kill that ski. I could go E99 and E110 and be really happy on almost every day.

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Originally Posted by SnowMachine

I skied the E110 almost every day of our massive 22/23 season. I wish they did not kill that ski. I could go E99 and E110 and be really happy on almost every day.

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My local shop has (2) E110s in the 185 length (2023) going for $600.

Thats $600 US for Enforcer 110? Paid under $400 US for my 2025 Enforcer 104 two months ago. Should be definitely under $400 for an Enforcer 110. The 185cm 110 is another option for Tony911 but think the 185cm would be easier and more versatile when its not powder.

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Originally Posted by noslow

Thats $600 US for Enforcer 110? Paid under $400 US for my 2025 Enforcer 104 two months ago. Should be definitely under $400 for an Enforcer 110. The 185cm 110 is another option for Tony911 but think the 185cm would be easier and more versatile when its not powder.

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Yeah local shops can only discount so much. That's why I haven't snagged one. I'd love to find a 2025 Enforcer 104 for $400. That was a great deal. Don't even need it, but have heard so much good about it on here. Really interested to see if it is that much of an improvement off-piste vs the 99.

Ptex1 is your answer if supporting your local shop doesn’t work for you. But give them a chance and ask to see if they will flex a little.
If my shop has inventory they may often flex a little for me, so if I’m in the ballpark I’ll run the money through them, because it’s more important to me that they stay in business than saving $40-50 and sending money elsewhere. Of course the more I talk with my shop and spend money with them, the more often and deeply they will flex for me as well.