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Originally Posted by The AD

This ain't bad:
https://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/s...and-bc-v0n-1g1

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is there any worse yuppie design virtue signalling than an Eames lounge chair? I am sick of seeing a pair in the great room of any house where the owners are trying to broadcast their good taste. I type this while checking daily for an Intermediate Chair at a decent price.

The thing that kills me about the kitchens in almost all of these homes is the lack of hood over the stove top. That was fine in 1955 but I would prefer my kids to not suck in that air while they wait for dinner to be finished.

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Originally Posted by ghosthop

The thing that kills me about the kitchens in almost all of these homes is the lack of hood over the stove top. That was fine in 1955 but I would prefer my kids to not suck in that air while they wait for dinner to be finished.

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Also why is having a massive kitchen with $20k in appliances and super expensive countertops so important to everyone? Does the average person notice a difference between a Wolf range and a Kenmore? I get it in a place like this, but seems like these things are creeping into much lower range homes.

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Originally Posted by ghosthop

The thing that kills me about the kitchens in almost all of these homes is the lack of hood over the stove top. That was fine in 1955 but I would prefer my kids to not suck in that air while they wait for dinner to be finished.

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My guess is the range on that home has a pop-up downdraft setup. Was all the rage back in the 70s. Still not as good as a proper hood, but better than nothing I suppose.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Also why is having a massive kitchen with $20k in appliances and super expensive countertops so important to everyone? Does the average person notice a difference between a Wolf range and a Kenmore? I get it in a place like this, but seems like these things are creeping into much lower range homes.

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Same reason why the counters must be granite, the floors must be slate, etc. People want to pretend they're rich and builders want to charge a premium.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Also why is having a massive kitchen with $20k in appliances and super expensive countertops so important to everyone? Does the average person notice a difference between a Wolf range and a Kenmore? I get it in a place like this, but seems like these things are creeping into much lower range homes.

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There can be a big difference in btu output that makes a difference if you care about cooking. Which they want to pretend they do.

2x on the pop up air extraction, which can work “ok”.

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Originally Posted by dunfree

2x on the pop up air extraction, which can work “ok”.

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We've got it on ours and to tell you the truth we rarely use it, but it does work---more or less.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Same reason why the counters must be granite, the floors must be slate, etc. People want to pretend they're rich and builders want to charge a premium.

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Yeah, and I think granite's heyday has already come and gone. In 30 years, it will be as appealing as popcorn ceilings. Let's all move on to large format porcelain panels. Builders will love it; one crack and the whole countertop needs to be replaced.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Also why is having a massive kitchen with $20k in appliances and super expensive countertops so important to everyone? Does the average person notice a difference between a Wolf range and a Kenmore? I get it in a place like this, but seems like these things are creeping into much lower range homes.

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We've ha a variety of 6 burner stoves in our houses over the years. If one likes to cook and have a soup, apps and main queued up, a lot of those burners are firing.

Last house we've done we got a BlueStar which has different burners, some of which are huDge and some are tiny. I like it a lot.

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Originally Posted by dunfree

Amazing the properties for sale in Chile. Fly fishing river? Surf spot? Island?


This house though is something
https://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/s...ra-santiago-rg

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That looks like a dated golf resort hotel lobby from Phoenix furnished by a Russian mobster's wife with a killer view.

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Originally Posted by fatnslow

That looks like a dated golf resort hotel lobby from Phoenix furnished by a Russian mobster's wife with a killer view.

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it looked like Chile to me

if it were a Russian mobsters wife it’d be gold everything and bad mood lighting with a miniature giraffe, like so
https://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/s...ky-lane-moscow

heh, chapaevaky. Chapaev was the passant hero that ate raw potatoes

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Originally Posted by The AD

Also why is having a massive kitchen with $20k in appliances and super expensive countertops so important to everyone?.

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The kitchen is the first thing that buyers look at.
If you skimp there, they think, where else did they skimp.

A nice kitchen is one of the best investments you can make, especially if you think you’ll sell within the next 10 years. Then you get to enjoy it and still get the the bump in price.

My last remodel, the appliance package was 40k.
That was three years ago. Now you can’t even get them.

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

The kitchen is the first thing that buyers look at.
If you skimp there, they think, where else did they skimp.

A nice kitchen is one of the best investments you can make, especially if you think you’ll sell within the next 10 years. Then you get to enjoy it and still get the the bump in price.

My last remodel, the appliance package was 40k.
That was three years ago. Now you can’t even get them.

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It’s also the thing people most want to remodel to suit themselves, so builders putting up spec houses want a decent kitchen but not a fancy one, thinking if it’s too nice it’s a waste of money whereas if it’s adequate people will be happy with it till they get their dream kitchen all planned out. Or that’s how builders I worked with thought at the time . . .


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Originally Posted by dunfree

There can be a big difference in btu output that makes a difference if you care about cooking.

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Which I assume makes a huge difference when you have a restaurant and are cooking meals for 100 people, but does it when you're cooking for your family?

I couldn’t let this pass, (I guess this is the wrong thread), but,

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Originally Posted by The AD

Not sure about the 1%, but with this house I think you're talking about the 0.01%!

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In my house 50% of the people do 100% of the cooking.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Which I assume makes a huge difference when you have a restaurant and are cooking meals for 100 people, but does it when you're cooking for your family?

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Again, it's the burners, and it's even better when some of them put out smaller flames/btus.

Tonight I made seared scallops, toasted some proscuitto, seared some belgian endive and melted cheese over a topping of chopped shallots and the crisped proscuitto. Then cooked rice for a home hot pot of veggies and thin sliced lamb. So I was running 5 burners.

But if that's not someone's thing, that's fine. I don't look down my nose much.

When an old famliy friend started to go around the bend, her kids would visit and remind me that her favorite phrase was "I like fancy food".

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Again, it's the burners, and it's even better when some of them put out smaller flames/btus.

Tonight I made seared scallops, toasted some proscuitto, seared some belgian endive and melted cheese over a topping of chopped shallots and the crisped proscuitto. Then cooked rice for a home hot pot of veggies and thin sliced lamb. So I was running 5 burners.

But if that's not someone's thing, that's fine. I don't look down my nose much.

When an old famliy friend started to go around the bend, her kids would visit and remind me that her favorite phrase was "I like fancy food".

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You're into cooking and for you it makes sense. I just have a feeling there are a lot of people who are more into kitchen aesthetics than kitchen functionality. And I suppose that's fine, too, but I don't exactly understand why that's the thing that's a house deal breaker for so many.

Also--admittedly--I'm the 50% of my household that does about 1% of the cooking, so my opinion on this matter probably ain't worth much. :)

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Originally Posted by The AD

You're into cooking and for you it makes sense. I just have a feeling there are a lot of people who are more into kitchen aesthetics than kitchen functionality. And I suppose that's fine, too, but I don't exactly understand why that's the thing that's a house deal breaker for so many.

Also--admittedly--I'm the 50% of my household that does about 1% of the cooking, so my opinion on this matter probably ain't worth much. :)

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There's a lot of people whose tether to some framework is looking down their nose.
I hated the fucking high sch00l sn00tfest and swore off that angle off a long time ago.
So, yeah, you're probably right, but as usual, there are significant exceptions.

I hate when shopping for a home and the house sellers just updated the kitchen and cupboards and windows! Great - but I hate the personal choices you made and now I'm not gonna buy that house and waste all that material even if I can afford to tear it all out. I'd rather you sold it cheaper and let me decide how I want it to look.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Which I assume makes a huge difference when you have a restaurant and are cooking meals for 100 people, but does it when you're cooking for your family?

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depends what you are cooking :smile: I’m of the opinion that cooking - in the take a bunch of raw ingredients and turn them into food sense - is increasingly a leisure lifestyle of the affluent. As such, yes, it does. And it matters how you want to cook, Woks like lots of heat.

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Again, it's the burners, and it's even better when some of them put out smaller flames/btus.

Tonight I made seared scallops, toasted some proscuitto, seared some belgian endive and melted cheese over a topping of chopped shallots and the crisped proscuitto. Then cooked rice for a home hot pot of veggies and thin sliced lamb. So I was running 5 burners.

But if that's not someone's thing, that's fine. I don't look down my nose much.

When an old famliy friend started to go around the bend, her kids would visit and remind me that her favorite phrase was "I like fancy food".

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Now I’m hungry.

I never have enough counter space. Coffee bar takes up about 4’. Toaster oven, blender, cutting board space, etc etc.

I don’t know what will replace granite, maybe quartz and similar types of manufactured materials?

Jimmy Chin did a book opening post in his kitchen on IG yesterday [he has a new coffee table book]. His kitchen had Calacatta Marble. It was pretty nice! [don’t put marble in your kitchens, people, unless you’re prepared for it to heavily patina with use].

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

The kitchen is the first thing that buyers look at. If you skimp there, they think, where else did they skimp.

A nice kitchen is one of the best investments you can make, especially if you think you’ll sell within the next 10 years. Then you get to enjoy it and still get the the bump in price.

My last remodel, the appliance package was 40k.
That was three years ago. Now you can’t even get them.

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This.

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Originally Posted by spanghew

It’s also the thing people most want to remodel to suit themselves, so builders putting up spec houses want a decent kitchen but not a fancy one, thinking if it’s too nice it’s a waste of money whereas if it’s adequate people will be happy with it till they get their dream kitchen all planned out. Or that’s how builders I worked with thought at the time . . .

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Agree. There's a balancing act, high-end builder-built kitchens run the risk of prospective buyers backing away thinking why should I pay for a kitchen twice, once for what the builder put in, and again a second time for what I (buyer) want to re-do.

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Originally Posted by bennymac

I hate when shopping for a home and the house sellers just updated the kitchen and cupboards and windows! Great - but I hate the personal choices you made and now I'm not gonna buy that house and waste all that material even if I can afford to tear it all out. I'd rather you sold it cheaper and let me decide how I want it to look.

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Great point! Also hilarious when people are so stupid they'll pass on a home because they don't like the color appliances. Girls on House Hunters be like "Ooh, but I really wanted stainless steel appliances" or "I really wants granite countertops" or my favorite, "I really don't like this paint color." Oh. No. Whatever can one do? If only there was some way to address that. Oh well. Better buy a different home. LMAO 🤣

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Jimmy Chin did a book opening post in his kitchen on IG yesterday [he has a new coffee table book]. His kitchen had Calacatta Marble. It was pretty nice! [don’t put marble in your kitchens, people, unless you’re prepared for it to heavily patina with use].

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This is not his Jackson house (no marble) so must his NYC home, which makes more sense that it would be more bougie.

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Originally Posted by neufox47

Now I’m hungry.

I never have enough counter space. Coffee bar takes up about 4’. Toaster oven, blender, cutting board space, etc etc.

I don’t know what will replace granite, maybe quartz and similar types of manufactured materials?

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my new set-up is having none of that on the counters (except coffee apparatus) the rest is in drawers and cupboards. But I also don’t have little kids like you do, which entails almost constant food prep, I imagine

we did granite countertops on our remodel. I was good with other surfaces, but with my husband being such a nature nut, he wanted granite and not a manufactured surface.

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Originally Posted by babybear

Ive been in his Jackson house (no marble) so this must his NYC home, which makes more sense that it would be more bougie.



my new set-up is having none of that on the counters (except coffee apparatus) the rest is in drawers and cupboards. But I also don’t have little kids like you do, which entails almost constant food prep, I imagine

we did granite countertops on our remodel. I was good with other surfaces, but with my husband being such a nature nut, he wanted granite and not a manufactured surface.

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Coffee niche with foldaway doors?

Or, deep counters ftw so that countertop appliances like coffee makers are not in the work zone