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Originally Posted by bryanthebold
Could you tune it to something easier to improvise in next time? Maybe a C or G? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by bryanthebold
Could you tune it to something easier to improvise in next time? Maybe a C or G? Thanks.
I think you're right...there are a bunch that look like that that ARE poisonous. Like I said, the goods as far as I know don't grow up here. There's a lot to identifying a shroom....spore print, bruising color, region found in. There are lots of stories of people out there wrecking themselves, sometimes fataly by eating what they thought was a fly agaric. That's one of the ones I've never sought out for that very reason. The psylocybin cubensis that grow up here are a lot easier to ID.Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
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Originally Posted by mc_roon
Sounds more like a burn-out more than anything.
I don't know about you but sitting around on a couch while "i" am in a TV really isn't that much fun.
wow. you know, now that you mention it i have always wanted to take lsd and play the didgeridoo...what are you - aboriginie?Quote:
Originally Posted by bryanthebold
I like eating acid and going to tijuana.
Smoking DMT in alley's is fun too.
Yup, ABC did a great piece a few years ago called "Ecstasy Rising" that basically concluded that the Gov't propaganda machine is wrong and the ecstasy "problem" is largely one of the DEA's own making. It's something I've been wanting to try for awhile (not at a rave or anything, just out in some cool natural place like most of my other tripping experiences) and if I could get pharmaceutical MDMA I would do it in a second, but you just never know what's in the shit you buy on the streets.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Also, unless you have a degree in mycology I would STRONGLY reccommend against picking your own shrooms.
MDMA is like "Acid Lite". Not as intense with a predictable duration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
......but with a very predictable effect.....unlike acidQuote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
E is one directional. You could go anywhere from slitting your wrists to proposing to a sidewalk on acid. I don't think the two are similar at all.
Or shrooms. Take too many and/or in the wrong physical/mental setting and you can quickly find the darkness.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
Couldn't find the light switch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
That's a good point though. I never understood people who think that lsd/scrooms/mescaline are fun/party etc drugs. There's a whole other world to those things you better be ready for.
There are only a handful of people I would want to trip with and 2 of em are in this thread. They get it.
Good thread (mostly). I've done a lot of shrooms, acid and x. not for years, with the exception of a small dose of shrooms once a couple years ago.
As I've gotten older, and taken on more responsibilities, I've enjoyed tripping less. The depressing come down just isn't worth the insight to me anymore.
If I was being honest with myself maybe I'd say that's because by taking on these responsibilities I have not been true to my inner self, who apparently only comes out to play when invited by my ingestion of psilocybin, LSD or MDMA.
I think it is hard to generalize about what kind of experience "people" have when they take certain drugs - it has to be an individual experience.
I will say that the end of my blind acceptance of organized religion coincided exactly with my first acid trip. I felt that there was something out there, but it was different that I'd been taught. More primal.
Yeah, I agree. Tripping just isn't as much fun after you have a mortgage.
anybody ever try the candy flip...(acid + MDNA)
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Originally Posted by benDover
.......never:fm: :fm:
Take the e first. Wait 20min or so then go nuts with the lsd (unless it's liquid, then wait till your ugly roomate starts to look sexy). That's the failsafe mood setter.
Regarding Salvia, it's fucking weird. Worthy of an experiment but it's not really fun. Most of the other stuff mentioned can be a blast with the right mind set and safe atmosphere. I am unsure about the introspection argument going on. I think I would have came to many of the same realizations without the experiences, but who knows. I sure had fun.
Kidwoo, you make a good argument, and that's cool. Guess I'd still do the shit if I could still enjoy it.
Salvia seems interesting, but there really isn't one positive thing said about it in this thread. We experience it when we die?? Great.
DMT is the birth/death micro excretion, not salvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
Like I said before, I think whatever's in salvia is what's released when you get a blinding concussion. I've only done it once and I'm okay with that.
Have you tried the DMT? I guess I have a morbid curiosity with it.:fm: :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
Read the thread son.:FIREdevilQuote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
Well shit man, the didgeridoo can do amazing things I tell you! Trust me :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by mc_roon
Fly agaric is a bit more nauseainducing than "normal" shrooms, and the trip, although way more visual, is kinda not as fun. Less "smiley," more "manic." It could have been my mindset of course, but the difference seemed akin to doing some strychnine heavy parking lot blotter vs. some nice clean fresh Windowpane.
Tripping on a mortgage - too funny. Gotta remember that next time the opportunity arises.
The best one I had was puffing a joint and eating brownies laced with some unknown substance of high potency.
The whole coffeeshop felt like it was turned upside down. When I stumbled back to the my hostel down the street I looked "down" to the sky and thought I was gonna fall. Then I flew like Superman through the streets, bouncing off walls and shit.
I crawl on the upside down steps to my room while the walls breathe in and out, lie on the bed and dig my fingers into the bedsheet so I don't fall up into the ceiling and get spiked by the dancing laughing spinning chandelier. Then the room spins faster and faster as if I were on some astronaut zero-g training lab. I pass out. My buds came and got me and drag myass to the Heineken brewery tour and ended the day in the red light district.
ahh...my first 6 hours in Amsterdam!
E's....I don't know about them. Those are my once a year special treats since I've seen long term effects of what happens to friends who've gotten fucked up regularly, usually when they've lived in London.
I usually dabble with it when I'm hanging with my buds in Sydney who are into the DJ/clubbing scene. My most vivid memories is being in clubs full of the hottest hot chicks, then feeling as invincible as Superman, going up to any hot chick there and hooking up...as if I were James Bond, Pepe Le Pew, Johnny Bravo and the Fonz all at once. Damn those were some good pre-marriage times!
It's scary to think that the buzz I get from a session of pulling into 10 foot barrels or skiing bottomless blower all day can be almost replicated by a tiny pill. That being said, I am scared of how much this thing could fuck your serotonin levels...and brain....if you were to partake regularly. So it sits on the once a year, special occasion list.
...then there's the white lady....ooooohhhhhhhhh..... but that's another story.
Used to do acid several times a year, only done shrooms a few times. I wouldn't say that LSD has truly influenced me in any profound way or that I came away from it's use with any deep insights or anything like that. Most of the time being on acid involved running around, laughing our asses off, just generally having a good 'ol time totally letting loose from the bonds of everyday life. Usually wake up from nights like that with sore cheeks and stomach muscles. Other times I've taken it up high in the mountains with just a couple of close friends and seen the clouds and the sky "breathe", seen paisely green and purple patterns between the stars, and heard the evening calls of the birds more clearly than ever before, and I've taken it in the city then gone and wandered around in the streets. I can honestly say the latter experience wasn't much fun, you end up getting focused on litter and all the stupid, depressing shit all the dumb people surrounding you do. Much better to be out in nature and able to revel in the splendor of creation, or just drink a bunch of beer (you can drink endless beer on acid), crank loud music, cut up with your friends, and build a giant bonfire without disturbing anyone.
Shrooms are a similar experience, though less intense. Never made me sick, though I did gag a little trying to choke them down dry once.
Acid is now incredibly hard to find because the DEA has started monitoring the sales of the two chemicals it can be easily synthesized from. A couple years ago I got a hankering to trip again so started researching online what it would take to make my own since no one I know has been able to find any. Beyond having some knowledge of chemistry and laboratory procedures, you have to be able to buy one of two different chemical compounds unless you want to try growing ergot fungus and extracting it from that. Guvmint regs now require all sales of those two chemicals be tracked and only people with legitimate reasons for buying it (part of some research lab or something?) can really get ahold of it now, whereas in the past it used to be available to anyone through chemical supply houses.
Oh well, guess I'll just have to go pick a bunch of shrooms.
have to say that LSD+MDNA was kinda wierd, but it coulda been the setting for me. Now LSD+Mushies=some intense shit! If it's visuals you want ,then there's the recipe!
Okay that's the second time and therefore not likely a typoQuote:
Originally Posted by benDover
It's MDMA
3,4 Methyene-DioxyMethAmphetamine
Know what you're putting in your blood son!!;)
Back in the day we called it MDAQuote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
That's something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
methylene dioxyamphetamine.
Different drug, similar but not identical effects.........usually sold as "E" as well.
or sometimes none as molly
Heh. Erowid is quoted in this week's issue of Nature as part of a story on ketamine.
In the double-blind trial, doctors gave the patients intravenous ketamine or placebo saline drips, and then scored the responses. After taking ketamine, 12 of the patients improved by at least 50% on a depression rating scale. Patients felt better as little as two hours after treatment. And one-third of the patients still felt better a week later.
Psychiatrists have on occasion used ketamine to deliberately destabilize normal subjects: by giving it to stable people, psychiatrists can induce a schizophrenia-like state and study the brain chemistry that may underlie the disease.
"What ketamine does is briefly make people crazy," says Eric Nestler, a neuroscientist and psychiatrist at the University of Texas Southwestern in Dallas.
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Originally Posted by David Witherspoon
Yeah I was fucking ecstatic when that shit would wear off too!!!
Interesting approach.:biggrin:
thanks for the link.....that really is kind of interesting
Alright....how bout the real gnarly stuff. Who's tried datura? I had some given to me and it sat in my freezer for two years before I threw it out, terrified to touch the stuff. This was because the guy that gave it to me destroyed his house, broke out all his windows, called the cops while high, ran naked from them through the woods once they arrived (jumped out a window) and was a bloody mess by the time I saw him two days later the first time he tried it.
The SECOND time yielded similar results, smashed tv, car crashed into a tree accross the street, and lost in the woods for a few days before he found his way home......again nekkid.
Everything I've done is cake compared to what that mess sounds like.
Datura: collected some, stored it for a while, then chucked it for the same reasons. Super-long duration plus high level of detachment from reality = uh-uh.
Only if you also think you need a degree in snow physics to ski the backcountry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Well, I guess thta explains me, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by David Witherspoon
Datura is pretty crazy stuff. Had a buddy in college who actually loved the stuff (very uncommon as the effects usually cause severe delerium, confusion, physical body aches, etc.) Trips last a long time and the stuff is basically free. Not to mention, I don't think it is considered a controlled substance.
AKA, the Jimson Weed, as refered to in Fear and Loathing.
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Originally Posted by commonlaw
:eek: :eek:
My buddy found it growing wild in texas when he lived in Austin. If it's the same stuff (angel's trumpet) that I see in botanical gardens all the time, I guess it's good the fear keeps it from rampant use.
No doubt that was the stuff. It grows pretty easily all over the US. You just need to know what to look for.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
I have had my fun. It's time for me to do some real damage with booze and cigs.
Wrong link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_hunting