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Originally Posted by irul&ublo
Um, yeah. That is fucking AWESOME. Where can I get one?
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Originally Posted by irul&ublo
Um, yeah. That is fucking AWESOME. Where can I get one?
Did you guy's learn this from a jedi?Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle6
We do not come to your door. You have never seen blond twins in matching briefs.:cool:
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Originally Posted by grizzle6
Hey grizzle6, since you are Mormon- I have a few questions for you that I'd love to have answered, mainly so if I was to get into a theological discussion and/or argument with someone of the Mormon faith, I would know where they were coming from. Oh, and I'm also always interested in other religions, except I'm somehow almost failing my mysticism in religion class this semester...
1) What is an angel skin, who wears them and why?
2) Is it true that the Church gives you money when you get married? Cause that would be rad. No, I don't plan on becoming Mormon any time soon.
3) Finally, what is this business in the Book of Mormon about the original people in America being white, but when some of them made God angry he turned them black, but when they won his favor back they stayed that way? Seems like Mormons would therefore be anti-black, but that can't possibly be the case. (Pardon the layman's terms, but one of my aforementioned high school friends tried to give me a brief synopsis of the Book of Mormon once.)
The Amish infected my computer with spyware. Bastards.
Like a specific question? Because in general I think it's bullshit, but then again I generally think religion is bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
If I only wanted to live where the majority of people were like me i think that'd be pretty limiting. I guess you'd also be opposed to living somewhere predominately black? Jewish?
I too like Grizzle feel the need to "come out" her on the board, I am as he what I would consider a liberal mormon. I am politically independent, often vote for democrats, served a mission and have actively defended and lobbied for environmental causes.. I have many friends that having different beliefs, lifestyles, you name it, many post here on this board, if pressed I don't think they would say our differences have interfered in our friendships, I have not pressed them to join the church or to investigate it at all. I will be the first to admit many mormon communities here in Utah are close minded and shut out others not of our faith, This is a cultural thing not a church thing. MOrmons lives often revolve around there local wards and many get to know their neighbors through these organiztions and meetings making it difficult to extend a hand of friendship and acceptance to others. It bothers me too.
I think you will find by moving here Utah is an accepting and fun place to live. At a minimum the people here are quirky at the most they are extreme. The comments I frequently read on this board make me laugh so hard sometimes. Utah is different and if you move here thinking you can force your values and culture on others you can' t, that kind of attitude will ensure your experience is a poor one. During conference this weekend the prophet denounced bigotry and racism and called for greater acceptance from members of the church.
To 720 I say, next time someone from the church comes over just ask them to remove you and your wife from the records. They will do it provided you send them a letter expressing your wishes.
Let the flaming and hating continue.............
I have never heard of Angel Skin and I'm mormon....if you are refering to the Garments, those who go through the LDS Temple wear them.
No, the church does not give you money after you get married...where did you hear that?
Idaho is 14% LDS. Salt Lake City is about 30%. Both figures according to Wikipedia, but backed up by other searchable sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by flykdog
That's just not true. SLC looks more like the Bronx nowdays. (Except those aren't pimps with lots of hos, they're married)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtrubs
Heh, reminds me of a party in SLC I went to with my fallen Momo GF. Some dude asked me if I was LDS and I misheard him and said occasionally. He got a questioning look and asked me to explain. I proceeded to talk about LSD and the fun it was... He had a horrified look on his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson
So it has to be in writting? And you wonder why there are so many jokes.:biggrin: :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterski
Cyber Cop, I believe getting it in writing is the preferred way to be officialy removed from the records of the church. Now if he jsut doesn't wnat people to come over a simple "don't come here anymore" should suffice, I guess their are members of the church who are more persistent than me.
Nice try, but blacks are a race and participate in many religions.. Jews have a specific religion. That being said, blacks and jews as a whole, generally share more of my beliefs than say a hyper-conservative cult like say, the mormons.Quote:
Originally Posted by flykdog
re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.
Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
cult ( P ) Pronunciation Key (klt)
n.
A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
The followers of such a religion or sect.
A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
Doesn't seem to be much difference between the two to me...
BAHAHAHHHAAHAHHHHHAHHHAAAAA!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by flykdog
to get yr name off their records list you must storm the tunnel @ the bottom of LCC right above the temple quarry 24 style.
my inlaws lived in n ogden and had to move to colorado cuz they couldnt take it, my sis in law still lives there.
i like the people are people setiment. and one plus about the fundi/strict mormos is they dont ski on sunday
1. Meet Mormon female.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
2. Start at knees and head north.
btw...aside from the observations that people showing up on your door is annoying...which it is...there is a lot of unnecessary bashing. The Mormons I've met over the years tend to be friendly, outgoing people, with an admirable dedication to family and community. They do seem to be conservative, but no more than a lot of other "red state" groups. I can see where living in SLC might seem a bit oppressive if you are outside the church, but that is true in a lot of places, and with other organized religious, ethnic and political groups.
Well, in all fairness that's all it took for me. A polite I'm not interested and it was done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterski
Yes, it really sucks here. Everyone hates it. Stay away.
I was expecting the answer to simply be "Utah".Quote:
Originally Posted by irul&ublo
Bottom Line: Until Bush is gone we all live in Utah. Welcome to the club.
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Originally Posted by bigtrubs
So this is a little tough to do over the internet in less than a paragraph, but I'll do my best.
1)I'm guessing you're referring to garments. Garments are worn by members of the church who have been through the temple. They are representative of the clothes Adam and Eve made before they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Yes, it's underwear, and yes it may seem strange. But forget about how weird it sounds and understand that they basically serve as a reminder of who we are and what we represent (our commitment to be good people and do what's right). It's kind of a personal thing, and tough to explain in a paragraph. Garments are definitely one of those things that would seem freakish and strange if you didn't understand some of the things that precede them.
2) Absolutely not. This we be the sweet meat if it were true. :)
3)The Book of Mormon is a collection of writings from prophets that lived on the American Continent. The first prophet to write in it came from Jerusalem and brought his family to the Americas. It contains an account of when Christ visited the Americas. Many of the writings of these prophets recounted the cyclical rise and fall of two peoples and their descendants--the Lamanites and the Nephites. At one point in the Book of Mormon, the Lamanites were cursed for being a wicked people, and yes, their skin was turned "dark". However, this in no way dictates mormons as believing that blacks are wicked. The changed color of their skin was more an indication to those around them of their wickedness (as perceived by God). As you mentioned, the Lamanites did gain favor with the Lord again, but their skin remained dark. If they had been black to start off, then God quite possibly would have made them lighter skinned. The original people that came over from the Mediterranean were lighter skinned. There are many times in the Book of Mormon where the Nephites turned wicked as well. Racism is absolutely frowned upon in the church--in fact, just this weekend we had General Conference, where leaders of the Church give talks, discourses, etc. and racism and our inacceptance of such behavior was addressed several times.
Whether you're interested in the church or not, you should try reading the Book of Mormon. I think you'd find it interesting.
Like I said--tough to explain over the internet. Hope that helps.
I am studying Spanish at the University of Utah. I don't know the exact numbers, but a majority of the students in my major are returned missionaries from latin american countries, as is true for the other language majors at the U.
And dang it wouldn't you know, being a minority can be frustrating. I don't learn things the same way, I don't talk about the same things, I don't make social connections the same way as many of my classmates do. Sometimes I wish my classmates shared my interests, wanted to get together to drink on a weekend, or had sex lives not so alien to my reality. But I think the way things are for me helps me define who I am through contrast. I don't really ever go with the crowd which pushes me to make stronger justifications for my beliefs. And when I do agree with the majority, I find acceptance of a different point of view that I wouldn't have had in a homogenous environment.
If you are too close minded to look at the positives of living in a community with different beliefs than your own, you are missing out on so many important learning opportunities. Just keep on dissin' on Muslims, Mexicans, Mormons, and any other group that you don't have balls enough to coexist with. I'm happy (but not stuck) where I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
I believe Mormons consider themselves to be Christians, but someone who actually is Mormon should confirm this since I'm neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtrubs
The whole polygamy thing has made me question my anti-mormon sentiments.
That doesn't sound too bad. "Yeah, I have 18 wives, and I'm doing it for God".
Yep, you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Blurred - don't you have some triple pillow drop gnar line to be scoping? I like you better when you bring the stoke.
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
One good thing about mormons is their incredible knowledge and high level of twitch to ski the west face of Timpanongos. As they all stare at it while going to BYU or attending the MTC.
If I was a youngster attending BYU, I'd certainly be distracted. As I'm sure many are.:wink: You know who you are.
http://www.physics.byu.edu/Graduate/photo6.jpg
Wow, you're clueless. I type this from an apartment building which is 90% Mexican. Your absolutes are played.Quote:
Originally Posted by alto
I know some of you are Mormons, but you're jack Mormons. That's different. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by powstash
I'm always confused by the whole pre-columbian contact thing. sounds bogus to me. but then, i believe in a dude who rose from the dead, so who am I to judge?
Word, thanks for clearing that up. I just wanted to get all the rumors straightened out. One more question, how/when did Christ visit the Americas? It's obviously not in the Holy Bible, so isn't that a contradiction between the Book of Mormon and the Bible?Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle6
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Originally Posted by flykdog
That is scary. Religious discrimination should have ended decades ago. I have not read this thread completely, so I am sorry if I say something that has already been posted, but how do those of you who are mormon feel about this? Do you look at it as OK to discriminate against someone seeking a job because they are not mormon? I would hope not. I realize their are good mormons and bad mormons(same as any other creed or ethnic background) and I do not want to lump everyone together. This behavior should generate deep outrage from anyone who reads that story, both mormons and non-mormons.
Yes, this is correct. Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this little tidbit on the web last night:Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
"The Book of Mormon has been organized into 6,607 verses, of which 3,925 refer to Jesus Christ, employing more than 100 uses of HIS name. Thus, some form of Christ's name was used by these ancient writers an average of one reference per 1.7 verses in the Book of Mormon." (Susan Easton Black, Finding Christ through the Book of Mormon [1987], 16­18)
Yeah...you could say the mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) have no doubt about who Christ is.
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Originally Posted by Endlessseason
Yep, I was waiting for a comment like this. I'll be there for the start of next season!:biggrin:
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Originally Posted by bigtrubs
In the book of John, Christ comments to the Jews that there are "other sheep which are not of this fold" and says that they are to hear his voice.
Christ visited the Americas after his death and ressurrection.
No contradiction at all. We read the Book of Mormon as a companion to the Bible. We believe in both. There are mentions of Christ visiting the Americas in the Bible, although it's not spelled out "Hey--I've gotta go to America. Keep my bed warm". Christ mentions several times that he has to visit "other sheep".Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtrubs
Just as the Bible is a collection of writings from prophets in the Mediterranean, the Book of Mormon is a collection of writings from prophets in the Americas. Think of it as a father writing a letter to two sons--both on different sides of the globes. Same message--different address.
One of the differences is that the Bible has gone through several translations, losing some information and detail by the hand of man in the process. The Book of Mormon clarifies some of these areas i.e. pre-existence, purpose of life, where we go when we die--among other things. It is a book centered around Jesus Christ and his mission.
You might wanna consider a comma between John and Christ. I don't know if you really wanna give the impression there's a John Christ as well..... just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by CS
I'm not familiar with John Christ. Is he Jesus' brother or something :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CS
edit: oops, endless beat me to this one.
That is comedy right thurr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Endlessseason
We are in fact christians! ALthough the major evangelical associations do not accept the church or recognize mormons as true christians. We have in fact been excluded from formal participation in the national day of prayerQuote:
I believe Mormons consider themselves to be Christians, but someone who actually is Mormon should confirm this since I'm neither.