Tecnica ZeroG Tour Pro 2024 touring boot

$300 is getting up near zipfit prices, and 50% more than an intuition.

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Originally Posted by zion zig zag

$300 is getting up near zipfit prices, and 50% more than an intuition.

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Yup, it better be damn good for that price. Though, if the performance is near zipfit with that low weight, the price could be justified. Zips are so damn heavy, I feel like a skimp racer when I use my intuitions.


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Originally Posted by Skip Dooley

Yup, it better be damn good for that price. Though, if the performance is near zipfit with that low weight, the price could be justified. Zips are so damn heavy, I feel like a skimp racer when I use my intuitions.


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It looks like a touring version of a Mach 1 liner, which I don't think is all that impressive personally. Certainly way better than the garbage liners that came in my Zero Gs (haven't seen the newest version yet), but definitely not as nice as Intuitions in my opinion.

$300 and still likely to pack out in 30 days. No thanks.

Hey everyone, thought I would jump in on some stuff as I work as a rep and sell Intuition, Tecnica, and Sidas. I worked for Lange for 16 years as well.
Liner insights:

The old ZG liners (look for the yellow) were garbage. Very thin, packed out in two days etc. Very much a too light of a liner for how strong the ZG boot was. It solidified the perception that the ZG liners should be replaced.

For the past two seasons, the ZG liners have gotten heavier and stiffer, especially the tongues. They added the C.A.S. "j bars" around the heel pocket, which, in theory, holds the ankle better.

The new ZG liner (24/25) was designed around the new shell, and is, in my opinion, the best liner for that product for touring. It has even more CAS material in the ankle, thicker and denser foam around the forefoot, and a very stiff collar and most importantly, the tongue. The tongue is thick and very solid for driving this boot. It's the liner if you want lightweight for touring.

The MC (Mission Control) liner (picture above) is a new product for beefing up the new ZG. It's heavier and stiffer, think of it as a combo of the Cochise liner and the new ZG liner. My personal thought on why you would get this liner is: 1. For having 2nd liner for skiing the resort on a trip, and want to bring just ZG boots. 2. You don't care about weight and touring "feel", and just want a beefier liner. I have not tried it as we did not have samples last spring when we were getting the new ZG boot out in the field. I skied the stock new ZG liner and was very impressed. I will give the MC liner a shot this winter.

I sell intuition and Sidas as well, and I tried the following in the new ZG shell:

Intuition Tour Tongue DD 12mm: I did not feel my foot was as "locked in" and the tongue felt very thin and added a lot of feedback when driving the boot. I just felt too much movement in the liner and shell with this one. A little bit warmer though, especially in the toes. (I don't suffer from cold toes in boots etc).

Sidas CRT Slim: Noticeably stiffer than the intuition, but did not tour as well as the Tecnica. The collar and tongue combo in this is VERY stiff and thick and it impeded the range of motion. The Sidas CRT liner is full ultralon foam, which is what Intuition originally started with. Leather tongues which are nice, but get hot when touring etc. IMO, this liner is better suited as an alpine liner replacement.

The stock liners in our boots (including the NEW ZG, NOT the first generation) are some of the most impressive out there. They are well made, and very expensive. For example, the Mach 1 liners cost $220-275 for replacement, where most brands are $110-$120. I got 182 days in my stock Mach 1 liners and I have never gone more than 80 days in others. Give them a shot before thinking you need to replace immediately. Hope this helps, etc.

While I wait for the small Dynafit Ridges to make landfall in Canada, I had the chance to try on some ZGTP’s in a size down from my normal touring boot. (Putting me in the same shell size as my current performance fit alpine boot with a 10-12mm shell fit).

The length and width are tight. My toes definitely make contact with the front of the boot just walking around the store. I can also feel some pressure on the top of my foot (might need to spread the instep or drop the boot board too). With all this in mind, the ankle hold is impressive and the stride feels great.

I’m wondering - would I be crazy to try and make a boot like this work? How much space can I realistically expect to make everywhere else to maintain this ankle hold? It might be tough to find a fitter who would do the work for me.


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Originally Posted by Bamski

While I wait for the small Dynafit Ridges to make landfall in Canada, I had the chance to try on some ZGTP’s in a size down from my normal touring boot. (Putting me in the same shell size as my current performance fit alpine boot with a 10-12mm shell fit).

The length and width are tight. My toes definitely make contact with the front of the boot just walking around the store. I can also feel some pressure on the top of my foot (might need to spread the instep or drop the boot board too). With all this in mind, the ankle hold is impressive and the stride feels great.

I’m wondering - would I be crazy to try and make a boot like this work? How much space can I realistically expect to make everywhere else to maintain this ankle hold? It might be tough to find a fitter who would do the work for me.


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This how mine fit, did you try them with the zipfit? Should shore up both the instep and toe room problem without much work.

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Originally Posted by mr_pretzel

This how mine fit, did you try them with the zipfit? Should shore up both the instep and toe room problem without much work.

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This was with the dinky stock liners.

I would have thought that the GFTs would make the instep / hold even snugger. (Granted I also have a buttload of cork in mine)

I’m investigating some ridge alternatives after finding out some of our local shops might not be getting any until December..

Just bot a pair of last year’s (2024) Zero G Pro Tours as the low price was just too good to pass up.

Gonna get some Zipfit GFT’s ($589CDN + tax)…. which kinda kills any savings. But worth it.


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Originally Posted by Bamski

This was with the dinky stock liners.

I would have thought that the GFTs would make the instep / hold even snugger. (Granted I also have a buttload of cork in mine)

I’m investigating some ridge alternatives after finding out some of our local shops might not be getting any until December..

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The zgtp stock liner feels very short for me, it goes away completely in a size up intuition or zipfit. I would definitely try the zipfits, it’s pretty annoying that touring boots are such a hit or miss if you want a performance fit. It becomes a expensive gamle and sometimes you just need to go for it.

If you end up wanting to use a instep spreader let me know, but it might be risky with the new merged double soft instep.

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Hey everyone, thought I would jump in on some stuff as I work as a rep and sell Intuition, Tecnica, and Sidas.

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Would you take a guess on if the increased forward lean on the ZG will carry over to the Cochise line in the future?

And those Cochise Light DYN GW from a few years back (21/22?)....never seen anyone on them. Too light for a CAST-setup?

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Originally Posted by zion zig zag

$300 is getting up near zipfit prices, and 50% more than an intuition.

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Are zips and intuition really that cheap in the US?

In Canada Intuition are $300 and Zips are $600 ($650 this year I think).

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Originally Posted by sf

Would you take a guess on if the increased forward lean on the ZG will carry over to the Cochise line in the future?

No changes to Cochise shell coming. Cochise is 13*, new ZG is 14*

And those Cochise Light DYN GW from a few years back (21/22?)....never seen anyone on them. Too light for a CAST-setup?

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We have not brought that model to the US market, so I have never checked it out.

Quickly tried on the new boot today, the liner felt very nice and plush, I’d like to buy it to use in other boots..

As for the shells, fit feels very similar to the old one, still on the shorter side in terms of length for toes which is a dealbreaker for me. Instep is still tight, which I like personally but is not good for some. It still walks like a 4 buckle overlap boot, so not great but the weight is incredible for what it is, especially considering the plush liner. There is no other boot that can touch its stiffness at a similar weight.

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

We have not brought that model to the US market, so I have never checked it out.

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Thanks

Finally got to try the new version on. Touring ROM definitely feels a bit smoother, and somehow feels a bit improved rearwards even though they said the change is only in the forwards direction. I took my Intuitions directly out of my well used 5 year old Zero Gs and put them in the new shells, and I swear the new shells are looser in the heel. I know they've said there was no change there, but hard for me to believe it after moving the liner back and forth a few times, definitely noticeable, to the point that they now probably wont work for me. Why is finding a low volume touring boot so freaking hard???

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Originally Posted by wilcox510

Finally got to try the new version on. Touring ROM definitely feels a bit smoother, and somehow feels a bit improved rearwards even though they said the change is only in the forwards direction. I took my Intuitions directly out of my well used 5 year old Zero Gs and put them in the new shells, and I swear the new shells are looser in the heel. I know they've said there was no change there, but hard for me to believe it after moving the liner back and forth a few times, definitely noticeable, to the point that they now probably wont work for me. Why is finding a low volume touring boot so freaking hard???

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It's certainly not a low volume boot! Imo it's mid volume, a happy medium if one is put a positive gloss to it.

I did think the cuff pivoted relatively friction free fwiw

Does anyone have any insights into how the ZGTP fits compared to the Cochise? I've been touring in Maestrales 25.5's and skiing the resort in in Cochise 25.5's. The cochise is a little tight for touring for me, plus the weight and lack of ROM. Been eyeing the ZGTP to drive some bigger touring skis as the Maestrales aren't quite stiff enough...

I don’t necessarily think I’m in the norm here, but I have a tight (~8-10mm) shell fit in the 25.5 Cochise and opted for the 26.5 ZGTP (22/23 version). I thought the two boots fit about the same and wanted a more comfortable fit for touring.

Obviously it’s not the most performance fit, but even with the stock ZGTP liner, I get good enough performance and can lock down my heel, although it does require slightly over buckling for the descents.

Thinking about these for my next daily driver touring boot. I'm currently on the Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 (older dark green ones). Will they walk significantly better? I don't really love the ROM on the Hawx

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Originally Posted by UpperDaze

Thinking about these for my next daily driver touring boot. I'm currently on the Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 (older dark green ones). Will they walk significantly better? I don't really love the ROM on the Hawx

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They'll walk significantly better

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Hey everyone, thought I would jump in on some stuff as I work as a rep and sell Intuition, Tecnica, and Sidas. I worked for Lange for 16 years as well.
Liner insights:

The old ZG liners (look for the yellow) were garbage. Very thin, packed out in two days etc. Very much a too light of a liner for how strong the ZG boot was. It solidified the perception that the ZG liners should be replaced.

For the past two seasons, the ZG liners have gotten heavier and stiffer, especially the tongues. They added the C.A.S. "j bars" around the heel pocket, which, in theory, holds the ankle better.

The new ZG liner (24/25) was designed around the new shell, and is, in my opinion, the best liner for that product for touring. It has even more CAS material in the ankle, thicker and denser foam around the forefoot, and a very stiff collar and most importantly, the tongue. The tongue is thick and very solid for driving this boot. It's the liner if you want lightweight for touring.

The MC (Mission Control) liner (picture above) is a new product for beefing up the new ZG. It's heavier and stiffer, think of it as a combo of the Cochise liner and the new ZG liner. My personal thought on why you would get this liner is: 1. For having 2nd liner for skiing the resort on a trip, and want to bring just ZG boots. 2. You don't care about weight and touring "feel", and just want a beefier liner. I have not tried it as we did not have samples last spring when we were getting the new ZG boot out in the field. I skied the stock new ZG liner and was very impressed. I will give the MC liner a shot this winter.

I sell intuition and Sidas as well, and I tried the following in the new ZG shell:

Intuition Tour Tongue DD 12mm: I did not feel my foot was as "locked in" and the tongue felt very thin and added a lot of feedback when driving the boot. I just felt too much movement in the liner and shell with this one. A little bit warmer though, especially in the toes. (I don't suffer from cold toes in boots etc).

Sidas CRT Slim: Noticeably stiffer than the intuition, but did not tour as well as the Tecnica. The collar and tongue combo in this is VERY stiff and thick and it impeded the range of motion. The Sidas CRT liner is full ultralon foam, which is what Intuition originally started with. Leather tongues which are nice, but get hot when touring etc. IMO, this liner is better suited as an alpine liner replacement.

The stock liners in our boots (including the NEW ZG, NOT the first generation) are some of the most impressive out there. They are well made, and very expensive. For example, the Mach 1 liners cost $220-275 for replacement, where most brands are $110-$120. I got 182 days in my stock Mach 1 liners and I have never gone more than 80 days in others. Give them a shot before thinking you need to replace immediately. Hope this helps, etc.

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Skied the new stock liners in the old zero G today. Huge upgrade, actually decent compression and fit, one of the best stock liners I’ve skied. If you like how they fit out of the box I dont think there is a need for a intuition upgrade on this one

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Originally Posted by GoldenBC

I’m with you on these complaints. One solution is to just undo the ankle buckle (2nd down). It dramatically improves rear and forward ROM and reduces friction. I don’t notice the buckle being undone in any negative way if your boot cuff is low. Sure maybe scrambling I’d hook it on and pop it forward.

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I am still on the old ones, but the 2nd buckle open is a big improvement, glad you posted this info. Just with kick turns on boiler plate I needed to lock the buckle to get edge pressure.

Tried on the new zero g pro tours today, was actually able to get them on my feet (unlike the previous version). The softer plastic on the instep shell overlap helps. Liner seems decent. Bought ‘em, now it looks like I’ll have to remount 3 pairs of bindings since the tech fitting length is quite long compared to my boot quiver (various Scarpa maestrales, transalp pro, etc).

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Originally Posted by concierge

The forward lean is defined by the angle the front of the cuff is at, which is the position you drive the ski from. I think there could be an argument that in a 3 piece boot a spoiler actually does increase the forward lean, but in a 2 piece boot it definitely does not. I also think the Tecnica zero g forward lean numbers are off and it also impacted by the internal delta. The 13 degrees on the current zero g feels way more upright to me that 13 degrees on other boots. Right now my mod increases the lean 3 degrees, so I will probably dial it back to 2 degrees with the new boot.

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Yo man! Do you think any of these are coming for the new boot? Notice you posted this a minute ago.

When Raide's ZGPT forward lean mod has been sold out, I modelled my self a set of lean mods. From 14 deg to 19deg.
https://imgur.com/a/A5PFXKG

I think you underestimate the loads on the heel bar. This is gonna blow your Achilles.

I acknowledge the weakness of plastics and tryed to match it to hold those forces, e.g. make it beefier than the aluminum part. This PPA-CF is really strong for nylon and its Young Modulus is between 8000MPa - 9000MPa. But I cant't say for sure it will hold, because I need to do more field tests.

Has anyone else been getting slop in the pivot points on the new Zero G? Both my boots have been developing slop on the right pivot point. It's about 3mm up and down. Almost looks like the whole rivot is flexing.

I have a pair of Tecnica Zero G Scouts that are several years old. They developed the same slop issue in the rivets. Probably been getting worse for a while but only noticed it a couple of days ago. Took them to my boot guy an in a matter of minutes they recrimped the rivets and solved the issue. Still a little vertical movement in one of the rivets due to the hole in the cuff getting ovalized. Had I noticed things sooner, I may have gotten ahead of that. I also updated the liners this year with an Atomic Mimic Platinum liner. I tried the current ZGPT liner as well (which I liked) but liked the Atomic better. To me, it felt more like an alpine boot. I'm not doing long tours anymore, so for shorter hikes (2 - 3 hours max, usually less), the Atomic works for me. Very happy with the new liner and it certainly perks up the downhill performance. I use a Booster strap and a spoiler to get good contact around my skinny leg. Have a bontex insert with a minimal heel lift to reduce the flat-footed feeling that most touring boots have. Quite happy with the result.

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Originally Posted by Wildo

Has anyone else been getting slop in the pivot points on the new Zero G? Both my boots have been developing slop on the right pivot point. It's about 3mm up and down. Almost looks like the whole rivot is flexing.

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Not yet. 35+ days

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Originally Posted by LeeLau

Not yet. 35+ days

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Good to hear and thanks for your answers. I have about 12 days and less then 20runs (all on pinbindings and touring skis). I have turned them in to my local shop and they will talk to tecnica. So fingers crossed I will get new shells.

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Lee, I know youve skied both, how does the instep compare to a hawx xtd? The original one of that makes any difference.</p>

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Originally Posted by mr_pretzel

Skied the new stock liners in the old zero G today. Huge upgrade, actually decent compression and fit, one of the best stock liners I&rsquo;ve skied. If you like how they fit out of the box I dont think there is a need for a intuition upgrade on this one

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I am interested in doing this. Did you get the liner listed as Zero G Tour Pro C.A.S. Liner W/ Recco (24/25 And Newer) on the Blizard-Tecnica website? I liked the fit of the original liners on my original ZGPTs (22/23) but thought they skied poorly. Spent a few years trying to make the intuition tour wraps work, but they were always too cramped for my toes and made them cold.

No idea what liner size youd be after but here is a 26 for a very good price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...4-28c03813b28a

Unfortunately I need a 27.5, but thats good idea to check on FB marketplace. I'll check my local.

2022 Tecnica Zero G Tour Women’s 23-23.5


105 flex - very good condition - maybe a dozen days on them - no punches or liner work - I can throw in a rear spoiler for more forward lean if you want


$300 plus shipping

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Lee, I know youve skied both, how does the instep compare to a hawx xtd? The original one of that makes any difference.</p>

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It's ever so slightly higher. That compares the 2023 ZGTP vs the older Hawx XTD.

From a skiing fit perspective it didn't make a noticeable difference. From getting the boot on the XTD is harder to get on. In part due to lower instep

Thanks!

Any update on the mission control liners? An option in between intuition and zipfit in terms of weight, stiffness/control, and price seems interesting.