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Shorts with zippered side pockets. If your shorts don't do that well get different ones. Most PI are pretty good, poc essential enduro have the pockets on the front for some reason. I tried phone in the side cargo pocket on my PI expedtion bibs but even riding casually on a cool day it gets kind of sweaty from being pressed up against your leg.
I just got a small frame bag from Evoc and I can get a couple CO2s, tool, irons, tubolito and a clump of gauze and some vet wrap in there. The color looks like cat barf but at least I saved 15 bucks?
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I like the pockets in the specialized swat bibs the best. And the rest of the bib is OK enough that I'll wear them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech Tonics
I have some Race Face shorts that have a lumbar pocket, which is where I put my phone and cards. Love having them there as opposed to side pockets.
My first thought was a ‘Cast-like’ system for sliding off a kit from bike to bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Another was simply using side access bottle cages to secure a pouch or even an old water bottle with tools inside. There are a lot of water bottle cage kit options with a quick search.
The Osprey Raptor packs have a tool roll that unhooks and can fit in a cage or in a water bottle/ canister in a cage.
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Edit: corrected pack name.
OneUp pump with EDC and plug/pliers covers most of what I need and is easily swappable between bikes. The rest is either strapped to the bike, or goes in my pockets. Long rides are different, but the main things I'm adding are a water filter, first aid kit, and a few additional tools. Stuff that's major if you need it, but almost never gets used (excepting the filter) cause the EDC covers so much.
Nukeproof bibs are pretty nice. The side thigh pockets are kinda useless and hard to get to with baggies over them, but the three pockets in the back that hang over the waist of your shorts are nice. I got mine from Chain Reaction on sale with a cultural appropriation-y Dia De Los Muertos print for cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech Tonics
Some Club Ride tops offer a mini lumbar pocket for cards/cash, glasses, etc, along with chest pockets and a small lens cleaner.
I remain impressed that the MTB world continues to work so hard to solve a problem that was mostly solved decades ago.
Cycling jerseys, it turns out, have 3 pockets, all of which are easily accessed while riding and can carry quite a lot of stuff. Add in the new style bibs with mesh thigh pockets, and you can load yourself down.
Snark aside, on my Ripley I strap a tire plug kit to the frame and have a small bag which carries a TPO tube strapped below the bottle cage. Another small bag above the BB carries a selection of tools (chain tool, Leatherman Squirt, zip ties, tape, chain link, etc). My hex tools are in the crank spindle (Lezyne kit made for handlebars fits in a Shimano crank). I zip-tied a bottle cage to the top tube in front of the seatpost so I can carry 2 full sized bottles, and I have a frame bag on the bike that can hold more food or another 500ml bottle. Beyond that, I sometimes carry a second 500ml in a top-tube bag. This usually works for 50+ miles unless it's pretty hot, in which case I'll stoop to carrying a running hydration vest, which stays high enough on my back to work well with the aforementioned jersey pockets (which carry food, a phone, and usually a jacket).
But don't you run into issues with your nipples getting chafed from your form fitting outerwear?Quote:
Originally Posted by climberevan
Figure out a way to attach a fidlock bracket to it. I know JC at High Above attaches fidlock bottle mounts to his hip packs.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
They also sell this, which isn't exactly what you asking for.
https://www.fidlock.com/consumer/en/...tial-bag/09661
I carry the basics on bike (Tube, pump, quick link, levers, one bottle, etc) but the big problem is additional water for anything more than a super short ride. I dabbled with pocket bibs which are nice to ride with but a pain to stash an extra bottle in the back. Personally I hate waist packs because I feel all the weight on the strap squeezes me in the wrong place during climbing. So for me the solution has been the running style vest - it's way more stable than a full pack, but much more comfortable than a waist pack. I use the Camelback Chase 8 which is larger and can fit up to 2L of water in the bladder which, when combing with a bottle is just the right amount of water for me on a 4-5 hour ride in the summer.
That's why you make sure your bib straps cover your nipsQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
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When I started MTB, my brother told me to get a "cycling jersey with pockets." I think I got about 2 minutes into a descent before the crap in the back pockets started falling out. It went into the trash can after that ride. Likewise, the couple times I put anything more than a driver's license and credit card (such as multi tool or cell phone) into those goofy zip pockets some jerseys have, it drove me nuts banging into my side and pulling the collar of the jersey against my throat. That kind of stuff is probably fine for road, but it's got no place in technical MTB.Quote:
Originally Posted by climberevan
I just ride no-handed in that exact pose. No chafing ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
This thread is taking an unfortunate turn... rapidly
I can’t handle any shit in my pockets other than a gel or a half eaten bag of chews. Phone and keys?! Y’all have never seen an iPhone shaped bruise on a buddy’s thigh.
Even if not crashing, it’s all floppy and heavy.
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For long and hot+humid days a properly fitting roadie kit is hard to beat for the comfort. It’s the in between loose fitting, club cut road jerseys that are terrible. Those are the ones strangling you and flopping all about.
These days I’m heavily in favor of pocket bibs (specialized swat and nukeproof are favorites) on the MTB and even loaded w tools + phone they don’t choke you or bounce around nearly as much, even on rocky descents. The don’t fit an extra bottle as well as a good jersey pocket. For really long rides go w hip pack that Carrie’s an extra.
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I like this one. Holds up to jarring and chunkQuote:
Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
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If you don’t bring a tube and patch kit, you’d have less shit you carry[emoji848]:
https://www.theproscloset.com/blogs/...s-the-simplest
“I started riding tubeless tires in 2015 and never looked back. In fact, since I went tubeless and added tire inserts to all of my bikes (yes, even my road bike!), I no longer carry spare tubes on my daily rides. I can repair any unsealable puncture with a tire plug 99.9% of the time.”
Sounds like a steep rotational weight and cost trade off.
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Plugs have limits and are useless for sidewall tears. Tubeless doesn’t eliminate the need to carry a tube unless you like walking your bike or being a tube mooch.
Sounded like a stretch.
This. The stuff has to be tight for it to work properly. I have never lost a phone or anything else from my jersey pockets on mountain bike rides. If your shit is falling out of your pockets, your jersey is way too big.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
This got me going off on a tangent exploring mounting ideas. Currently messing around with 'cage base' option to strap stuff to the side or instead of the cage:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
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On one of my bikes, I have a 3.5mm offset and then another 3.5mm for the cage. I'm not sure what would be a universal thickness that would work for others, but I'll post up the .stl file later after verifying fit, etc., for anyone who wants to try printing this idea. There are lots of bike mount options on various 'printables' sites. I'll weigh this after done printing, but it looks like it would be about 20 grams @ 25% infill.
If im riding anything less than 4 hours I take nothing but a bottle of water. Cushcore front and back means hard to get pinch flats. I've rarely ripped sidewalls and don't mind bailing out and riding on the Cushcore to get home. Generally don't have to use tools on trail so dont bother bringing them. I do want an edc setup though.
One one hand yer right, on the other hand you all are pretty fussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by joetron
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Originally Posted by nortonwhis
Much past an hour and a single bottle isn’t cutting it for me, so longer than an hour I’m wearing a fanny pack with a second bottle. Much longer than two hours and I’m wearing a hydration pack.
For people puzzling over with how to carry hydration, I used to bring quite a lot of water with me until I started using hydration (Nuun) tablets in my bottle. That let me effectively halve my water consumption. I only use about 1 bottle per 2 hours now. For several hour rides I use 1 bottle with a tablet in it and a vest with a 1.5L bladder, plus some Shot Blox. I alternate between the bottle and the hydration pack, which stretches out the electrolytes.
Interesting. Nuun Sport or Energy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
Sport. And FWIW, I prefer the ones without caffeine. Best flavor IMO is the strawberry lemonade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
Ultima replenisher is cheaper than Nuun, tastes ok. I prefer the lemonade flavors.
I do agree that electrolytes help. A big part of feeling dehydrated is actually from the lost electrolytes, and in very hot weather when drinking a lot of water it gets even worse.
+1 in the 'F packs' camp. Anything under 5h I'll do with 2 cage bottles and a snack or two in the jersey. Tube/co2/wrench strapped under seat, a few tools in head tube.
Something long like wriad there's no way around a pack for me - need too much food/water.
Interesting about electrolytes. Just tried this on wriad, drank the usual amount of water but added LMNT in cage bottles, averaged about 8oz (1/2 pack) every 2 hours. might have been too much water? Felt like I retained it .. felt kinda bloated like a water balloon by the end. But the next day I was actually not very wrecked - so there's something to it .. gonna be about finding the right ratio.
NUUN and the like seem over priced vs something like Emergence-C packets. How are they substantially better?
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Yeah, before I started using electrolyte tabs, if I went for longer rides (3-4 hours) and drank a bunch of water, I'd get like a hangover headache later. And it wouldn't go away until I had a bunch of salt (electrolyte drink, chips, etc.) and took ibuprofen. I'm sure there's a lot of factors at play (also heat acclimatization, just general conditioning), but it definitely seems to be a factor for me. And for like $0.75 or whatever it works out to per bottle, it's far from the most extravagant thing I spend money on mountain biking.
I honestly haven't spent a lot of time researching. I assume they all have different balances of minerals, sugars, and carbs. I would assume that the different formulations for a brand (active vs recovery) also have different balances. Plus flavor/taste. I've tried some random free samples I got in a box with an order of parts, and it tasted so bad I threw out the rest. I like the flavor of Nuun and it's stocked at the local grocery store, so that's just what I stick with.Quote:
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Nuun strawberry lemonade is the way to go. Price isn’t that bad if you buy a box of 6 tunes online. Dirt cheap compared to what they sell those nasty Liquid IV powder pouches for at the grocery.
I don’t use it while riding, but I’ve found having an insulated cup of nuun-water waiting in the car after a big ride or day of skiing goes a long way towards making me feel better that evening/the next day. Usually I’ll throw in a scoop of collagen powder too (not because I think collagen does anything magical, but it is a mostly flavorless protein that easily dissolves in cold liquids).
On a long rides I’ve tried salt stick brand chewable electrolyte tablets. I don’t like mixing stuff in my bottles because the flavors linger and you drip sticky sugar water on your bike/clothes, but the chewables seem to work. Got a whole bunch for free at some gravel rides.
What does everyone pack tubes in for on bike carry? I pulled mine out last week and it was split so my buddy had to ride out on his cushcore.
I’m contemplating vacuum bagging one with my food saver to keep it dry and not oxidized but worried about being smushed so tight.
I would like to strap the tube to the frame then not think about it until needed and have it work.
I don't know about vacuum bagging your tubes or whether or not full-suction would be too tight, but FYI, almost all vacuum sealers have the ability to interrupt the suction and start sealing immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by carlh
Depends on the exact unit, but usually you hit the "Vac/Seal" button and it will start sucking--then you hit the "Seal" button to pause the suction and immediately seal the bag. Useful anytime you are sealing fragile things, things with liquids or juices (stop it as soon as the liquid starts to run up near the top of the bag), etc.
I just roll it up super tight and rawdog it under the saddle with a ski strap, along w Co2 and tire wrench. I happened across someone in need last fall, tube was still in fine shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by carlh
Admittedly, Murphy seems to be lurking.