Sherwin slide.
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Sherwin slide.
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Couple shitty shots from slightly south...
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And another couple shitty shots from slightly north...
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double blasting shitty pics...
3/31 Friday slightly north
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Fun times to be had in the southern part of the range. Should be even more fun with a proper corn cycle...
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very strongly considering a week in bishop in early may. any recommendations for a guide?
https://www.ryanahuetter.comQuote:
Originally Posted by akokskis
Wondering if anyone has heard of someone skiing the buttermilks before? Last weekend I had the pure joy of going bouldering and skiing pillows on Grouse Mountain in the same day! This has been such an epic season.
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A buddy and I are headed that way early next week. It seems like you guys have gotten crushed this season! We are uncertain on what roads are open, or when they might open what is the best resource for that info? I've looked at the Mono/Inyo county pages. I'm guessing those are going to be the best.
Also, can you camp at the Convict TH? Good camping close? Would be a truck camper.
Thanks for any info.
Road conditions ... Division of Traffic Operations - Road Information - California Highway Information
Current incidents ... CHP Traffic (ca.gov), Communication Center "Bishop"
Hey I will be in Mammoth this Friday to Tuesday and am bringing touring stuff. If anyone would be so kind as to allow me to tag along for a day tour I would be grateful. I will be there with my intermediate skier non touring friend but she has encouraged me to get out there for a day.
I am from new England and have skied and toured with TGR mags in Utah and Jackson and it's always gone well. Avy 1 and I will bring my stuff. Distance runner so I should be able hang in terms of fitness.
Best skier on the mountain!!!!! Joking [emoji3]
Thanks
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You're not technically supposed to camp at the Convict parking lot, they've got signs up, but of course that seems to mean different things to different people. Dispersed camping is tougher than usual this year with all of the snow on the ground. Benton Crossing Rd has some options to the E of Mammoth.Quote:
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I spent a few days down there recently, here's info I've got on the roads. It's tough this year, there's so much snow down low and very little work has been done on the access roads. I'm not complaining, they've got more pressing issues than getting access roads open.
Twin Lakes Rd. is good to go. Glacier Lodge Rd. is plowed to within about 2 miles of the summer TH. Onion Valley Rd. has a soft closure at Seven Pines. We could drive to about 7K before being blocked by snow. McGee isn't plowed and you'll have to start from 395. Rock Creek Rd. isn't plowed at all which makes it a no-go unless you've got a sled. Convict is open as usual.
I can't personally attest to conditions on the other roads, but I imagine 120 is plowed up to Poole Power Plant Rd. (since folks have been skiing V Bowl) but PPR probably isn't plowed. Not sure about Pine Creek but they usually try to keep it open to the mine. I highly doubt Virginia Lakes Rd or Lundy Canyon Rd is plowed at all. I highly doubt Bishop Creek is open beyond Aspendell. I've heard Whitney Portal Rd. won't be opening for a while.
Anyone have beta on dirt roads like McMurray Meadows Rd? Seems like Tinemaha has been skied recently, so I'm guessing it's passable with 4WD and good clearance.
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Thanks for the beta. Exactly what I was looking for! I'm seeing in the guidebook for the Eastern Sierra that the Poole Power plant road is typically plowed year round? The last update on the Mono County roads page has the PPR not being plowed as of the 6th... I'm assuming with this year not being typical they have other priorities which makes complete sense.
Thanks for all this. Were you able to park/skin from 7k in OV or did you have to start down by 7 pines?Quote:
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Thanks for all this. Were you able to park/skin from 7k in OV or did you have to start down by 7 pines?Quote:
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We skinned from 7K in Onion Valley.
And Poole Power Plant Rd is typically plowed in my experience but not this year it seems. It’s not too far to skin up the road to whatever your objective is.
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McMurray Road good to 6200' just past Birch Creek. Blocked by a mud bog.
High clearance vehicle helpful but probably not necessary.
The road to Birch Creek TH is totally blown out.
Some pics/road beta from the last couple of days. some of it is a repeat of What'supdoc's great beta, but it's a cut and paste from my post to the FB group. Sorry for the long post but i'm on sabbatical for 2 months and have too much free time. If anyone's going to be on the East side/Shasta, ping me since my regular partner is skiing in Greenland :)
..... FB post:
Some pics and road conditions report from the last few days (4/9-11), mainly on the High Sierra. The summary is that things were still transitional when we went so check ESAC before you go down there and/or pick your route/aspect. Some routes have a lot of Avy debris as well that needs time to smooth out.
Snow conditions: Coverage is outstanding (duh 😊), so there's lots of lines doable this year, even some southerly faces that usually don't hold snow. When we went the snow was still transitional for all but direct southerly aspect due to warm temps/lack of enough freeze/thaw cycles so make sure to check ESAC before you go and or pick your line/aspect.
Round top South side 4/9: Skied it ~11am. Slightly too early for the top 500ft, perfect for the middle 1k, then mush below that. Big wet slide started naturally from the rocks near the sisters and ran 1-2k ft. Might post to SAC if I caught it on video. Bunch of folks skied Moon Crescent and her sister chutes that day.
Big Pine/Mt. Alice 4/10: Temps were high so we started early. Felt like a good freeze on the way up (even the TH at 7200ft was supportable, 0 pole penetration), but we found that Easterly aspects had a superficial 10cm crust and below that up to 1ft of rounded grain sugar below. N faces were breakable. Direct S face skied great corn from 11.5k to 10.5k at only 10am, and flat section as well from 10.5 to 10k. Direct E gully below that was a tad scary due to it having thawed past the top layer in many places even at 10am. Lots of huge avy debris from past slides as well recent
Convict/Mono Jim: Given an even higher night time temp, we punted on our objective and picked the S side of Mono Jim instead and started super early. Got to the top at 8am to wait it out, and all would have been great if it weren't for the cloud cover, so we waited on the summit for it to soften. By 10:30 the S face was great corn from ~11k down to 9.6k, and pretty good on the N facing flats below that. The final N face/sage brush run was breakable and or rotted out/shallow snowpack near shrubbery.
Road conditions: We bailed due to the high wind forecast today, so I had plenty of time to checkout the plowing conditions on various trailheads on the way home. Knew that they'd be closed at usual spots, but was curious how much progress they have made given that Fishmas is only 2+ weeks away. There's lots of work to do:
1) Big pine/Glacier lodge Rd: plowed to ~2 miles from the end of road. 2-3ft after that. Even the high trail on southerly faces is still all snow above the road. Road is a quick ski back to the car. Room for 10+ cars to park easy.
2) 168/Aspendell: Lots of construction on 168, with a mile or so of 1 lane only. Still snow on the road past the closure at Aspendall (see pic). Southerly faces still have great coverage for accessing Emerson, etc. (for now).
3)Buttermilk road: Road in great condition until past the bouldering area ~1mile from 168. After that you’ll need at least 10 inch clearance 4wd to get past there. I didn’t drive much further, but was told by folks I met while skiing that many of the access roads to Basin or S side of Tom (Horten crk, etc.)are not passable due to road damage. If anyone can confirm this and the locations of closure, that would be great. I didn’t have time to drive there that day.
4)Convict: Plowed to the lake with the right side parking lot cleared (15+ cars). Plowing hasn’t started on the S side lake road, nor any campgrounds, which are deep under snow.
5)Mammoth/Lake Mary: Wowzah! Tons of snow 😊see pic. Even Main St. in Mammoth is not fully plowed yet. There are parts where it’s 2 lanes, then all of a sudden 1.5 lanes due to snow.
6)Benton/Hot springs: small pull out plowed right on Benton Rd, but ski/snowshoe from there to Willy’s or others. Bridgeport/travertine looked driveable w 4x4 from 395, but i didn't drive up.
7)Junelake/158 north: Plowed well to the gate slightly north of Grant lake. It looks like they’ve started plowing past that (see pic).
8)120/Tioga pass: Plowed to lower closure/Pool power plant road. Pool rd. plowed well past that (Vbowl access). No work has started on 120 past this (at least from the last storm?)and judging by how much snow is still on the steep Southerly face above it, I’d doubt this will start/open any time soon due to Avy risk/rockfall.
9)Lundy: plowed to lower gate ~ 2miles from 395. Plowing hasn’t even started after that.
10) Virginia lakes: Plowed standard spot ~1 mile from 395. Plowing hasn’t even started after that.
Monday 3/10 Big Pine:
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Tuesday 3/11: Convict:
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Mendenhall looking sportier than expected for this year.
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Plowing status Aspendell:
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South slope access still holding snow aspendell:
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Buttermilk road/bishop views:
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Plowing status N June lake loop/Wood/168:
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Tons of snow still on the Steep S face above 120. That's gotta delay things due to Avy/rockfall risk
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Looking for a meaningful gift for that special someone? Wanna add some dazzle to your front lawn or pool area? act fast, they only have 2 left. Walker. (all joking aside, this is part of the reason i love 395 to my core and i don't have 1% of the artistic talent these folks have....):
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Side note:
I really think there's great value in sharing beta/stoke and this East side thread is the best example/place imho... I love this thread and want it to keep going, not just with conversation but with actual stoke/beta. So many forums have died out (Ttips, Split.com, even some TGR threads...etc.) Posting here can save someone from a long drive to the wrong place, or to make sure to ski at the right time/aspect, etc. Every day/weekend is too precious to be wasted. But man is the process painful. FB is, to be frank, kinda evil, but it's easy. It doesn't take 2 minutes per pic to upload or spin my pics upside down. I'm not cool enough to have in IG or whatever is newer. Maybe I just need to figure out a better way (link to pics/FB, etc.). Wanna do the right thing, especially after seeing what'supdoc, Frush, others, but man it takes so much more time here :( /endrant
Wow Mr H, thanks for that. I'm out of town for a few weeks but hoping to get some nice spring skiing in this year. I also sent a link to this to a friend of mine who's super stoked but doesn't know about TGR.
Thanks for the update!
Big ups to Mr. Hankey for all the beta! Sincere thank you to you sir.
Thanks for all the beta Mr. Hankey, I will be out in the area May 4 - 7. Exact location undecided as of yet.
Good stuff Mr. H!
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Thank you for the pics, time and info Mr. Hankey! Looking forward to getting south :-)
Right on Mr. Hankey! I'm going to be around the eastside around May 4-9. Was planning on heading in southfork, palisades area (but keeping an eye on conditions everywhere) in case you are in the neighborhood to get the old guy band back together. :yourock:
Thanks folks.
Chill, we should get the old guy band back together anyway :) If you still have my cell just text me before you go. I don't have firm plans but the hope is to split my time between the east side and Shasta in April/May.
Jack, i didn't know you guys were back from Yurp yet. i'll ping you guys :)
CS and others, feel free to DM me with your plans if you're here and looking for partners.
Any beta if Pine Creek Road is plowed?
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YesQuote:
Originally Posted by abcdethan
Spent the weekend chasing a couple of athletes around the east side. There is nothing better than the eastern Sierra covered in tons of snow. There are just lines everywhere…but I guess this has been covered here many times. We parked at the bathroom on buttermilk road to access Tom and Basin. Others were making it farther but from that point it was only a mile or so until skinning. We also parked at the Whitney portal road closure. From there it takes a little while to get to snow. Good coverage from about the elevation of mason camp. You can ski lower but have to choose your (north facing) line carefully.
South aspects at elevation were perfect at noon, north aspects (and even the NE couloir of LPP which is more like SE facing) were refrozen by 4-5p. Shocking, I know.
Couple of panos for all your beta pleasure:
Top of Lone Pine Peak
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Top of Mt Tom
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nice
South Split skied real nice apart from the top 750 feet saturday. With a handful of advanced maneuvers a Subaru forester was able to make it to the end of the 11S101 without bottoming out which made for an easy cross country walk to the red mountain creek drainage.
North chute on Cardinal was kind of f'ed down low by bergschrunds and some funkyness the choke. Saw one vehicle that had successfully made it to the Red Lake TH.
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Similarly the upper choke on Mendenhall got hit by some loose wet and might not last as long as people would expect given all the snow this year.
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Split for those that are interested.
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Seems like things are tending towards corn cycle/ starting to shape up? Probably heading this way sometime in the next two weeks, appreciate all the beta
Corn was plentiful and easy to find on more solar aspects. Lots of loose wet debris piles in narrower places you would except, but it we are in for a long and bountiful corn harvest.
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Must have just missed us then. We were probably the car you saw at the RL TH too. It was a hell of a drive getting there but luckily had the ole lady's Bronco. That truck is insane at wheeling.Quote:
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Split done!
Thanks for all the continued beta everyone. Since we got an unwelcome helping of dust here in CO, I think I'll be headed that way soon.
Split … 🤤
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Never seen the super bloom but death valley was pretty nice on way over today.going to see if I can get up towards Langley .