I'm most interested in them as a replacement for my 186 BMT 109's. REALLY REALLY want to hear comparisons to that exact ski. I went back and fourth about buying C113 or C132's this year and went 132 because I've got my 109's which will be extremely hard to dethrone since they work so well in so many conditions. But, the gear whore in me always leaves that possibility open. So all you guys who get a pair of these C113's need to post as much detailed info as possible, as soon as possible.
How stiff did the FL113's end up coming out? Compared to, say, an XXL.
Also, just in case I decide I need to punish my wallet a little bit, are there any 187's left?
I'd say they are right about as stiff as an XXL/LPR/Monster 108, but the flex pattern is a bit more like the Monster (slightly stiffer shovel, slightly softer tail), where the Dynastar stuff ihas a slightly softer shovel and stiffer tail comparatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
They are quite similar flex/stiffness to my 1st gen 196 Renegades (which are now headed to Mr Pretzel).
There are a couple pair of 187 FL113 left . The 194s are sold out till next fall tho.
I don't know if I am qualified to answer this, as I have owned the BMT122, VWK, and BMT94 but never skied the 109.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
But here is my .02
1). Compared to the VWK I think skiers will find the C113 a little more lively, responsive, surfier, and close to 150g lighter. Lengthwise, they are very much a tweener between the 184 and 191 VWK. The Volkl, due to its weight, may feel slightly damper in chop inbounds.
2). Compared to the BMT94/122 I think skiers will find the C113 to have a slightly more fall line personality, a touch more support in the tail, and to skin a bit better on tricky skin tracks. The Volkls may be a touch more forgiving at slower speed.
Very curious to hear what others think, as the C113 gets on snow!
Dammit. I was kinda hoping you'd say something that would make me not want them. I don't really need another set of skis on the rack right now, but those sound fun as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
[Sigh]
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Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
I liked the BMT109 a lot but not as much as the BMT94 or carbonic Katana... or BG108t, which dethroned the 109 for me personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
The 94 and KVW are dang close in their rocker lines, long and low. I thought the 109 had more rocker than necessary which made the tail seem vague and less supportable than I wanted.
The 113 is a pretty compelling shape and I'm keen to hear some reports soon, too.
Planks arrived today and all the big dick energy from inside the box blew the carboard right open for me. Everything looks so good. 194s FL113s coming in around the same weight as my LP105s, woof so pumped.
Thanks for it all Marshal!
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Umm, bry, full 3D pic set is required
Please mount with gold pivots, post pics so I can live vicariously through you until feb 7. If UPS don't lose them over the Atlantic somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by bry
Carry on.
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oh baby
Thank you.
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I’m pretty sure that’s the raddest set of profile pics of all time.
One gripe, that makes zero sense, but is stated to kill all further gripes. They’re strapped together.
Now, all of you internet nerds can fuck off— and understand that when weighted with a penis, things go reverse.
That FL113 is the shizzle.
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The profile pics are great, but I’d like to see what else is residing in that garage.
That's a lot more splay than I was expecting on the FL113. Is that a true representation or is it accentuated by the strap placement?
I can assure you there's nothing spectacular going on, happy to share to some garage thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
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Dang. Fancy door and floor got me all excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by bry
Spec is for 65mm tip height, so fairly significant amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
No straps no camberhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e5679dbcc8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e458b98517.jpg
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Those look really awesome man
How is flex compared to senders and bodacious? Had ordered them originally but also have 186 bodacious and kept thinking how similar they look
Noticeably more stout on the hand flex than the sender squads in tips and tails, not crazy different v the bodes but a bit more of a consistent flex throughout.
Feels real strong but not alarmingly stiff. As Marshal had suggested, stiffer in the tip than the LPs but the tail feels a touch more mellow to the hand.
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These rocker pics and flex profile descriptions are putting my want gland into overdrive. I'm putting in a preemptive dibs on the first pair of 194's that someone wants to sell complaining about icy mogul performance, or doesn't match their bindings, or prefers their Line SFB's for skiing switch, or.......
Goddamn. I designed the fuckers, stared at and adjusted that profile for days and weeks. These came out how i wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
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This is all soo very exciting. Fucking pumped; countdowns on.Quote:
Originally Posted by bry
LT, yer fuckin killin me man, haha. Can’t wait to get these fuckers on snow.
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Originally Posted by arild
I have not been this excited about a new pair of skis in quite some time.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh shit, them are badass.
Fuuuck the gold looks good!
Bry the collection is peaked right now!!
BIG DICK ENERGY
My 194 C113 are basically flat directly underfoot then a very slight reverse camber out to the rocker points. Exactly what I'd hoped for... hope they ski as good as they look! Super solid feel- look like a real ski at a tourable weight.
This entire lineup is looking dope as fuck.
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Which skis are these made to emulate? If any? A bode with original flex and sidecut, but «spurred» tip rocker?
Or is it just a ski you wanted to make, Arild?
Looks great, but probably a bit more ski than needed for norwegian birch steeps [emoji58]
Have you not been paying attention? Perhaps the answer to your question is a bit of a read.
I’m not trying to be a standoffish dick. But this ski (these skis?) has been on the back burner for years.
If you’re new, I’ll be polite.
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Not a ski designed in the last ten years, at least. I wanted, basically, a Thirteen with a slightly easier tail (read: some tail rise), and a more balanced taper profile, so it would scrub speed, slarve and pivot better. In addition to Thirteens, there is influence from at least ten different skis, some more progressive and others more trad chargy. After the Thirteens, the only truly lustworthy skis to me have been SiSt/Down's cd3/115 and sd105s. Both brilliant. Plus, there's nothing quite like going so fast that trenches can be laid with a 40m+ sidecut radius, and the speed can be felt more in your face and flappy, baggy clothing than in your feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by sf
You're right, more ski than technically needed where I live, but last season I skied my thirteens a lot at my local 200m elevation hill, and they made me feel 13 years younger and back in Narvik. Just go fast, don't worry about death cookies, deflection or hookiness, stop when you need to.
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That's seriously light for such a big ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by nate s
Well executed! I have no qualms going gold instead of black icon now.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul_skier
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For not trying you’re succeeding at being a standoffish dick very well, kudos!Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
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Damn. Should have grabbed mine before leaving for Jackson!
Really???? You went to, of all places, JHole without them? FWIW, I am trying to be a standoffish dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by detrusor
The hype in this thread really makes me want to buy skis I don't need. Marshall, just curious, but are you seeing sales from outside of TGR? Listened to the Blister episode you were on recently and just wondered how big a reach you'd found with these.