As a GenX'er who moved to a ski town, this is quite valid. Boomers like to play the 'my fixed income' card while driving a new Ford F350 dualie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markeyz
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As a GenX'er who moved to a ski town, this is quite valid. Boomers like to play the 'my fixed income' card while driving a new Ford F350 dualie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markeyz
Lots of great Boomers out there but I kinda gotta agree with all the Boomer dissing above. They were given the keys to the kingdom and ruined it all.. and now seem hell bent on burning it all down.
I touched on this in a different thread for a different reason, but the truth in this statement holds water.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAFKALVS
I've always like this lyric -
' Every generation
blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
come beating at your door... '
" backlash toward Vail Resorts... "
VR's leadership appointed in 2006 is not a boomer -
the boomer bashing accomplishes nothing more than venting ;
ideas were offered in a different thread about how to change the culture for VR employees ;
I don't and won't support Vail Resorts, and will never hold a 'mega pass' ;
my opinions about corporate ski culture are up-thread ;
as long as those of the generation that has been responsible for the management of VailResorts for more than fifteen years continue to blame predecessors,,, I wish you luck.
maybe next year the resorts can be staffed with internationals on J1visas again.
Thank you. skiJ
Skiing is always in a boom/bust cycle. Typically its been with Real Estate, this time its with consolidation.
Vail isn't an owner of these properties, just a nexus of contracts of which the shareholders have a claim on the value of the entity. In front of those claims on value is roughly $3bn of debt. When operating cash flows take a hit for 2-3 years and they cant meet their debt obligations the "assets" may be looking for a new home and operator.
As always vote with your dollars to make change...
I don't propose any. I think there's plenty. But, if I was going to build one, my back yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markeyz
I don't know about this Boomers are letting it all go to shit stuff. I just skied two mountains in Vermont that have been around, like, forever, Stratton and Killington, and they both look great and are operated really well. Killington makes me go, huh, that's a nice new chair and that's a nice new snowmaking operation, and, Madone, when that new lodge opens, now we're talking. Btw, just learned that they are supposed to start destruction of the old K1 lodge March 1. Don't hold me to it, strong rumor, but, if true, I wanna watch that and take pics. I hope explosives are used, but, doubtful.
bunny casually dropping in the eyetalian catchphrase…. he’s been to itly before you know, twice for a month!
Hindsight is always 20-20 and I wasn't given a damn thing except the chance to live when I did and that was more a gift than by design.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parking
Blaming shit on boomers is just another case of “The Other”. It is always some other groups fault for all your problems. Grow up and stop being bitches. You are basically grown adults whining about your parents. 🤮
For those that think moving to Ikon is the solution, think twice. Read about the shit show season at Crystal Mountain this year here, last 4-5 pages or so:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...Alterra/page52
Bottom line is Ikon sold 40,000 unlimited passes in Washington and while selling the passes stated that there would be no reservations this season and free parking for passholders. Keep in mind there are only 4,500 parking spaces at Crystal; so fast forward to January, they are now requiring parking reservations for the weekend days and the reservations are gone in about 1 minute each week; a ton of people can't ski on the weekend now. Oh yeah, if you don't show for a day you have a reservation they give you a $100 ticket and they expect you to cancel by Noon the day prior. If you park w/o a reservation more than 2 times they claim they will revoke your pass. How is this UNLIMITED skiing which is what passholders purchased???
^ Like I said, my role as a customer is to turn the lights on in the lodge now at our Alterra home mountain - pretty messed up.
That’s winning!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by timeo
Hashtag Charlie sheen
I cant believe I'm saying this, but yes you are correct. The K1 lodge will close early March to begin the demolition process. The phase 3 footprint of the new lodge, and slope side patio will cover where the old lodge currently exists. The Umbrella bar and the washrooms there, along with food trucks will support the K1 base area into the spring skiing season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
They damn well better have a decent espresso machine in that new lodge.
Meanwhile at Powdr Corp’s resort on the west coast, the 33YO chair in the middle of the resort - that ties the place together- shit the bed in December and is unlikely to run this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
You buy the pass, implicitly, you assume lifts won't break for season, lifts will be opened when snow allows not when they decide it fits their P&L numbers for the week/month, it will snow at some point, the key snowmaking pumpshack does not explode, they won't sell more than X times the hourly or parking capacity and the owners are financially viable to pay the bills to keep the lift(s) spinning.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
They off-load their risk, you buy that annual pass/risk, not knowing all that they know. How can you lose? Powdr is right up there on the list....
Lean into it, thataway Benny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Well thought out response with a good pulse on the ski industry and the financing behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egreenaw
Well my parents keep telling me how sorry they are that their generation pulled the ladder up behind them, benefitted from all sorts of economic and societal booms and programs, and then turned around and told the younger generations that they are lazy and that the boomers did it all on their own. They regularly tell me that it makes them sick to their stomach how much their age cohort acts like whiny babies while hoarding the wealth, refusing to spend it, blaming younger folks, etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
So, you know... you can just do the classic "stop being a baby and pull up your bootstraps" boomer thing, or you can admit that even a lot of boomers realize their generation REALLY fucked up society in north america by being selfish pricks.
And BTW I'm a married millenial homeowner with plenty in my retirement account, but I am also not so blind to pretend that I got here completely on my own, nor am I so idiotic that I ignore the massive massive damage the baby boomers as a group have done to our economy and basic national infrastructure and security.
This is what I don't get...Quote:
Originally Posted by boardtodeath
WTF are they waiting for? What good is all that wealth if you don't blow it at some point?
You and your parents sound like rich entitled assholes. NTTAWWTQuote:
Originally Posted by boardtodeath
it is silly how many of that generation are so tight with some types of spending...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
...I see it all the time as a Painter doing side jobs; they tell me I am to expensive at 250-300$ a day, yet they want quality, higher end work done. Besides a full price contractor charges 400$+ a day. The working class types are opposite and appreciate a good deal. Its the office desk jockeys that are often super tight.
Yet they have a $100k dollar camper, porsche's, bmw's, and a $900k+ dollar house
Ego. So many people judge not just others, but themselves, based almost entirely on net worth. That's the only logical conclusion I can come to on that. Just wanting to see that number get higher and higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
You think they accumulated all that money by giving it to riff raff like you, or tipping waitstaff, or voting for tax increases?Quote:
Originally Posted by baron
My parents, who were born late depression-era (conceived pre-Pearl Harbor, born 1942), are such hoarders. For them it's the the lasting frugality from their parents and their upbringings during times of not having the plenty later generations were brought up with. Additionally, they are fixated on providing funding for educations for many generations to come (aka "their legacy") and not spending on anything they do not deem as necessary. (probably like the children of today will be fixated on applying hand sanitizer to their hands as long as they live...)Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Then again my parents are not baby-boomers (lived in NYC in the late 1960s. Not only did not go to Woodstock, didn't even know of Woodstock until after it was over...)
Yeah... I suppose you're right. I just find it bizarre. I'm trying to time it such that I can GTFO of the rat-race as soon as possible, have enough cheddar to live until I'm 90 (optimistic), not be a burden financially to my children, but spend every last dime by the time I die.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmm...pow!
:D
Sure, I mean my dad is a doctor - at a public county run hospital where most of his patients are welfare recipients or displaced and my mom is an author. They drive subaru outbacks and rav4s. So I mean, if that's your definition of entitled then by all means refer to them as that. I paid for my own driver's ed and moved out of their house at age 17, taught myself tech skills growing up and then turned that into a career. My newest car is a 2006 that I bought with a blown engine and did a swap on, and I've never paid more than 7 grand for a vehicle. Definitely super rich and entitled over here..... Plus everyone knows the doctors that take tiny salaries for decades to do surgery on homeless people with chronic diseases are assholes, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
I'd posit that someone who has the skills to make half a mil a year and settles on making about 1/5 of that so that they can dedicate their life to making poor people's lives a bit better (instead of just endlessly stacking paper like so many boomers do) is actually the opposite of an asshole, but what do I know?
TLDR my parents are humble and live within their means, sorry that you think that it makes them or me rich and entitled. They taught me compassion and a good work ethic, and that much of their generation has neither.
Wtf is this? A fucking therapy session? Let’s talk about our parents? You guys see what Vail has done to us? Fuck Vail!
Vail hasn't done shit to me partner other than some shitty skiing that I did not have to pay for and I was pissed off then.
I don't buy Ikon or Epic, I would give Indy a look for next season.
But for my Brother and Sister patrollers working for Vail..... Fuck Vail with a cactus.:eek:
Wow. You have serious issues involving your brutally honest parents, but, at least they helped you survive this dystopian Boomer destroyed world by helping with the down payment on the house and probably education. Those fuckers.Quote:
Originally Posted by boardtodeath
Most of the wealth is tied up in real estate. Don't worry, the kids will get that. Patience. Or just sneak in and smother them with pillows in the middle of the night.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
The next recession. My dad was a "Greatest", threw very little awayQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
How in the fuck did this go from "I hate Vail", to "Boomers ruined the world"?
Whinny X & Y'ers...
Allow me to apologize for the role I played in the derail. If there's one thing we can all agree on here, its definitely
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Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
^^^ I just came here to post this.
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/...e-fuel-skiing/
I'll bet that's Killington today.
Do I succeed in a chargeback if I used a VISA to rent an inner tube for this application and a merchant agreed to do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud
This is going well. In a way, it's good to see. This sort of disfunction can't last forever. Or, can it?
It's much worse at a few of their Eastern hills. Essentially, after this storm Friday, thousands of people stood in line with important chairs not functioning.
https://www.parkrecord.com/news/park...-to-city-hall/
You left out, "can it get worse"Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Totally unscientific analysis is that a lot of this will sort itself out over the next 10 years. At Big Sky the clientele is largely skewed towards well off Codgers and they will NOT continue skiing forever.