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Yeah, that's not true. Almost everyone up to and thru Super-G is on the new Icon binding, with only a few still on the X-binding (mainly older speed skis with Servotec rods). I walk thru the race room on an almost daily basis and I haven't seen a painted Marker binding in about a year. There was a time last year when some athletes were on the new heel with the Marker toe due to parts not being available, but even those days are now over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ogi
I don't walk through race room, but I do spend some time in wax rooms on WC tour, and even though I have nothing to do with Atomic/Salomon, I have friend or two, who is taking care of racers on Atomic/Salomon.
No one in this thread cares about Atomic vs. Marker race bindings on the World Cup. Make a separate thread to discuss and measure your dicks on who has better access to racers skis. Read the room, guys.
The new ski is 108 and has lots of metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
Thats what we want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
They look like they have a little more tip taper than a traditional Dynastar design.
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Wasatchback - aren't you the Tecnica guy? Any insider info you able to give on the long rumored lighter boot? I have high hopes for this thing since the Zero G is so great and skis so well for its weight.
These?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
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So... M-Pro 108?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Keep it coming. Moar, moar!
This is a 22/23 gear thread and this binding is launching for 22/23. It may not be your interest, but it may be for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
I do think it's helpful to clear the air on what products are being used by athletes and which ones aren't. Perhaps you don't, that's great. But someone posted this and people responded.
Count me in as interested in the race binding chatter. All tech rumours are good rumours. Is it confirmed there's a revised Shift that is in a state athletes are testing it? Or was it a missighting of the new alpine binding?Quote:
Originally Posted by onenerdykid
The input from an industry leader like you is always welcome. The knowledge you share on here, or on whiskey fuelled, long winded, podcasts is very valuable to us who are wanting to better understand, or technically learn more about gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by onenerdykid
Haha. It’s like you were in my head, reading my thoughts. I find it amusing, as well. Perhaps we just need to exhaust the topic early so it never, ever comes up again? [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
yeah, yeah, while you go ski around on your 7 din binding remember that all the big spring development come from these guys hucking their meat down mountainsides at 140kmh. As no one races on the greatest alpine binding of all time, the Pivot, all the brands are striving to come up with something that works. This is where it starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
Anyone can make a powder ski in their garage, but nobody is making new bindings there.
Agreed. But clearly, the best binding of all time is the 916/920.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
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I’m here for the inside baseball, I find it fascinating.
You know me so well...Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
My sarcasm was not coming across well this morning in my comments, but there's some truth, too. I love inside baseball from industry folks as much as the next Mag, though I don't really care about racing. If there's a product that we are going to be able to buy, let's talk about it. We had that with the first photo of the Atomic binding.
While I personally don't care what a particular racer is or is not using in world cup races, I'm glad some here do. If you want to talk about old Marker bindings and who uses them, I'm sure there's some WC threads to have that discussion or, if not, create the thread. You can compare the long distance spy photos there. Compare who has better access and knowledge of who really races with what in that thread. Let's talk about real or speculated new products we may or may not actually see/buy here.
This. (Now that that F1-LT holds that position.)Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
Bent chetler 110. Bout time. Wonder what the weight is…
Is the white walker 116 still a thing? Or just the 121?
My guess is that with the MagicJ retiring the Whitewalker gets that spot but time will tell if I’m off base.
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I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of said boot…..Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
The catalog says 1750-grams for the 180-cm length.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupreChicken
I was the one who posted the new strive binding in the NS thread and I've had a few days on it now. No, it is not a replacement for the STH and no it does not ski like complete shit like the Z-toe bindings did (and is not a modern replacement for that either). I still love the STH first and foremost but I am impressed by this binding. I did not feel like it being lighter and lower gave it a weaker feel than an STH, especially with the 16 DIN version still using the same heel piece as the STH. Snow is still low tide in CO and will report back again when more big terrain opens up, but so far I have nothing bad to say about it.
edit to add that the strive uses the warden 13 mounting pattern, and it may actually replace the warden 13 all together since I only saw a warden 11 in the catalogue.
So the strive is possibly the soon to replace Warden? Interesting. Perhaps it is also a shot at the growing Attack market? While the STH is an awesome binding, I see a lot of P15s and Attack2s on skis these days...
On a World Cup note, I'd say just skim the posts you don't want to read. When the Atomic product was called onto the carpet in a public thread, an Atomic Product Manager (ONK) was bound to reply.
I am glad to hear positive things about the bindings. From a product offering standpoint, who is the target market? As has been stated, is it going to replace the Warden? It seems to be a cheaper to produce GW compatible binding. Good for Amer sports. I still want to know what the elastic travel in the toe is. If it is comparable or even close to an STH, them count me as interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY
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If it competes with the cost of the Attack. I used to only put STH's on my skis. But now my whole quiver is Attack's. Cannot beat the performance to price ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by ejj
^^^
The attack is just a straight up better binding than the sth2 (OG version had the issue that the heel would wobble after 1 year). I had 1 pair of sth2 on some bodacious. Finally killed those skis and the bindings are going in the trash. More pre releases out of sth2 than any binding I can ever remember, even crappy marker twin cams. I had my heel pieces turned up +3 over attacks and pivots to feel remotely safe.
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Where do you guys put the axial 120 compared to an attack 13? I just picked up a couple pairs on the cheap but never used them before. Lotta plastic…
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The Attack is no where near the binding the Sth - the Attack as has been as stated is a cheap alternative…Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
What I love is Sam Kuch is promoting the Attacks but in the recent MSP movie he is rocking gold Pivots on his Head skis…. Even though he gets free Attacks still rolls with an alternative binding…. If you are on a budget or are worried about matchie match go Attack…
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If you’re straight up going to throw them away I’ll give you beer money for them. To broke to afford bindings but skis…. No comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
Pivots are without a doubt the best. After that I prefer peak/mojo then attack, never had an issue with the toe and heel track is made of metal. But sth2 just sucks. I’ll give my sth2 to a lifty in needQuote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
Onenerdykid, when is atomic debuting a tele boot line-up?
I am a lifty in need and I will send you my address… And I even have Bodacious…Attachment 397041Quote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
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Um castQuote:
Originally Posted by waxman
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I like my cast set up for what it is but its a binding add on not a garage made binding.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher
that's because they're CASTQuote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
For fuck sake there has to be more than this? Somebody at least make something up. How about an actual picture of the new Tecnica boot? ARG UL lengths and weight?
Still sitting on my thumb waiting for enough snow to start some low country touring.
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How about what we all actually care about
What colors are pivots gonna be next year
Yes! We want a new Forza combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Rasta, I believe.