Thank you
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The gallbladder, where I assume your stone is, doesn't make bile, it stores it and then releases it when you eat fat. If you're having problems digesting fat because your GB doesn't have room to store the bile removing it won't help ---obviously. If you have pain eating fatty foods because the GB is trying to empty but the stone is blocking the duct surgery will help. (In the absence of infection removing the GB because of stones isn't mandatory.)
New Yorker had an article in the last couple of months about 0 alcohol beer--the writer seemed to think some of it was OK. These were small specialty brewers YMMV.
Re the second article --chef friend of ours (Chez Panisse among others) is a big fan of more black pepper less salt. It's not capsaicin in black pepper, and you don't need to use so much that the food tastes hot. We use black pepper on corn among other things. It works.
Athletic is delish. Love their IPA, especially if you keep it cold. Also, seltzer water is a good substitute. And if you want to make it a bit more flavorful, you can add bitters - as mentioned - or campari. Or make it an Americano with campari and sweet vermouth - pretty low ABV and delicious.
Can't comment on NA beer since but I quit coffee (and all other caffeine) 13 months ago. Headaches took nine days to vanish, and my at least weekly headaches while drinking coffee have diminished to 2-3 over those 13 months. I don't miss it and don't feel more tired in the morning. I enjoy herbal tea most mornings. My personal favorite is Bengal Spice by Celestial Seasonings. It's reminiscent of a Chai tea but with no caffeine. I will also steam some oatmilk to mix with it. I'll also have iced herbal tea, either an unsweetened hibiscus or passion fruit type.
Other than habit and possibly social norms, for me there's been no drawback to quitting coffee and other caffeinated beverages (haven't had sodas in 15 plus years).
SO this came up in the sober thread andI have been coming across ALOT of good near beers recently
ALL the Athletic offerings, as mentioned are very good.
1) Ricks hop water and near beer are both good.
So many brewers are doing NA now to
Industrial arts has "safety Goggles" as opposed to "wrench, etc that is tasty. Hedlum is good NA beer.
Two Roads makes a NA Juicy that I like, look for it, there are whole sections of micro NA beers now
Hell Busch NA is a good hot day after mowing the yard option
Home roasting swiss decaf from various locales has been a yummy experience.
Crux has a tasty NA IPA -
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Wake me up when the NA whiskey comes out.
My store sells quite a bit of this na whiskey https://lyres.com/range/american-malt/
we have the full line from Lyre’s and people love it.
My wife loves the Mikkeller NA sour beers.
Athletic crushes it, Sam Adam’s just the haze isn’t bad, indistrial arts, brewdog. All do well.
I’m not even sure why I clicked on this thread, but in full disclosure, I like full strength whiskey and beer, so just suggestions of what does well in the store I guess
are we doing NA spirits now too?
this is my favorite line, but i also love Monday.
I keep a full NA bar in addition to an alcoholic bar, most basic drinks I can do in either format
Dhos is great. Made by Ransom, if you're familiar with them.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6b468faa19.jpg
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It bothers me that the NA spirits are almost as expensive as real spirits. Profit margin must be massive; greedy fucks.
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Untitled Art also makes some tasty NA beers. I like them better than the Athletics.
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Just chiming in on the NA beer tip as I’ve spent the last two years trying as wide a variety as I have access to here in Tahoe/Reno.
I personally don’t get all the hype surrounding Athletic. It has a very stringent chemical taste to me and I think it’s one of the worst of all readily available N/A’s out there.
Not a fan of Lagunitas IPNA, either.
And Heineken 0 is great if you like that skunky Heineken taste (I don’t).
I have tried two different N/As from Crux and was not impressed.
For my $$$$, these are my favorite N/A Beers:
Self Care
https://drinkselfcare.com/
“Fuzzy Hat”
This English style brew tastes like a classic ESB
Untitled Art
https://www.drinkuntitled.com/
Everything these folks make is top notch.
Their regular IPA is great, as is their Italian Pilsner and Mexican Lager.
Their Chocolate Milk Stout is bonkers good (and I am not a fan of stouts)
Sober Carpenter
https://sobercarpenter.com/
“Irish Red” - tastes like an Irish Red Ale
“Black IPA” - fantastic faux schwartzbier
Sierra Nevada
Their N/A IPA is one of the best I have had to date
***(I had it at the brewery back in October, but have heard that it won’t be in stores until sometime in December)
Best Day
https://bestdaybrewing.com/
Their Kolsch is crisp and clean and their IPA is west coast hoppy.
Southern Grist
“Company Pils” is the best N/A Pilsner I have found to date.
***not sure if they still brew this as there is zero info on their site…
Gruvi
https://www.getgruvi.com/collections/beer
Their “Nitro Stout” is pretty stellar.
Their Hazy IPA is solid, too.
Two Roots
https://www.tworootsbrewingco.com/
Their “Straight Dank” is an uber hoppy W/C IPA
Estrella Galicia
https://estrellagalicia.com/us/estrella-galicia-00/
This is my go-to lager. It’s absolutely fresh and clean and is easy to crush a few on a hot day or with a meal.
Old Milwaukee
On the cheap tip, I have found Old Milwaukee N/A to be the best of the bunch (better than PBR N/A by a long shot). Gotta drink it really, really cold, though.
This will most likely be my ski season crusher for when hanging out with my fellow coaches apres in the lot.
YMMV depending on your palate…
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Meh….. Think about it. The ones I’ve bought and seen are 99% water, not distilled then alcohol removed. They don’t age them in oak barrels or anything. They don’t pay federal proof tax. They are selling herb and spice infused water for 2-3x the price of cold brew or kombucha.
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I had no idea there were so many. Now I have to find places that sell these. However, the times I really want one are when I'm out and about, not at home. I'm almost always the designated driver. I always ask and if a place has any NA or 0, they usually only have one offering, so I'm stuck with that. It's usually none of the interesting ones.
I did have a Guinness 0.0 a few weeks ago at an Irish Pub in Ottawa.. It was interesting. Definitely not a daily driver for me. It tasted watery. But real Guinness tastes watery to me too, so I suppose that means they nailed it.
HUDGE Guinness 0% fan here. Always have a few cans in the fridge and my local pub has started carrying it.
It does exactly what I need which is fill the familiarity and ritual void while I watch soccer at home or at the pub when I want to have 0, 1, or 2, pints vs 6-8 during a match
had a few, none stand out as great, but def good place holders. THIS would be up your alley me thinks https://enjoymxxn.com/products/kentucky-oak/
You know when you are canoeing and your paddle stroke leaves a section of water that is different than the water around it? It takes on what I describe as a "rough flatness". That's how I describe the finish taste from a drink of Guinness poured from a can with that gadget they use for carbonation, into a glass. It's not unpleasant, it just is. It's sort of watery. I don't get that as much with Guinness from the tap. Anyway, the 0.0 poured from a can tasted exactly the same as I remember the real deal from a can. Disclaimer: I'm a Murphy's fan.
I haven’t drunk much beer lately, NA or not, but I recall that the best I tasted back when I did was Clausthaler. Tasted just like a normal fermented German beer, except without most of the alcohol (I think it’s 0.5%).
St Pauli Girl also makes a reasonable NA beer.
Gave the Guiness 0.0 another try last night and I have decided I like it. I have something from Athletic that I don't like as much.
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I had a Heineken 0 or whatever they call their fake beer. It was gross. Way too syrupy sweet. And none of the skunky flavor their real beer has. 0/11. Would not bang.
1. Guinness 0%. Slightly watery and soy-saucey. Beautiful pour. Would buy again, but in no real rush to do so.
3. Sam Adams Just the Haze. Holy shit this is the best NA beer I've had - it tastes amazing. 10/10. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c40fffc89d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0b2847a57e.jpg
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My local watering hole has Just The Haze. I haven't been drinking much NA lately but I agree that it's the best NA I've had.
Anyone else like the Budweiser NA? On a hot summer day it does the job for me. I don't particularly care for regular Bud if I'm drinking cheap swill but the NA is pretty crushable.
I like the Guinness. Need to try the Sam Adams out of a glass. I had it in the can but that’s not fair to it. Oddly enough for me, Busch Latte NA is ok. Maybe it’s because the normal version set the expectation bar so low?
Don’t like any of the Athletic. Super bummed about the Crux, I figured if anyone could get it right it would be them.
My favorite so far is Deschutes Porter. I will get a pour pic up next time I secure some. It’s a bit hard to find and hit and miss on availability.
I agree with you about the Athletic, I tried it for the first time a few weeks ago and it didn't taste much like beer at all, more like malt liquor. I'm much more likely to drink water than non-alcoholic beer, but I might give the crux a try next time I'm in Bend if they have it at the tap room
I've been adding these hop oil concentrates to my bubbly water. It certainly not a "beer" taste but it adds a bit of a bite, good aromas and nice flavor.
https://www.33books.com/products/berts-beer-baster
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Interesting. In the same vein, I was drinking a lot of hoptea for a while. https://hoplark.com/collections/clas...YaAlTnEALw_wcB