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Originally Posted by nordekette

i still remember the usual talk in the kitchen during mushroom season : )
is this one???? i am not sure ??? lets wait for "hans" he knows more : )

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Haha! I love it. "Waiting for hans" has a nice ring to it. Could be a play?

Good haul today on my bike ride with the doggie.
Drying the lobsters, fried the bolete (for later use on burgers), Chantrelles going into spaghetti sauce and I'm going to do a weird pickle thing tomorrow with the cauliflower http://fat-of-the-land.blogspot.com/...-take-out.html Just finished putting up 18qts of lacto-fermented dills so I'm in a pickling kind of mindset these days.

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Originally Posted by garyfromterrace

Haha! I love it. "Waiting for hans" has a nice ring to it. Could be a play?

Good haul today on my bike ride with the doggie.
Drying the lobsters, fried the bolete (for later use on burgers), Chantrelles going into spaghetti sauce and I'm going to do a weird pickle thing tomorrow with the cauliflower https://foragerchef.com/pickled-hen-...hroomsmaitake/. Just finished putting up 18qts of lacto-fermented dills so I'm in a pickling kind of mindset these days.

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Damn Gary, beautiful haul.

Love me some lacto pickles too. Well done.

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Originally Posted by tgapp

Damn Gary, beautiful haul.

Love me some lacto pickles too. Well done.

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Hey thanks man! Get your ass up here, there's a jar with your name on em!
It's the first time (in 2 attempts) the cukes worked for me. Last year I tried it in a big crock... fail for me. I've done kimchee (3 successes, 1 failure), sauerkraut (4 successes), and have a 4 qt jar of carrot/kohlrabi (from the garden) in the fridge downstairs that worked great so anyway, I'm stoked that the 20 pounds of cukes worked out!

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Originally Posted by garyfromterrace

have a 4 qt jar of carrot/kohlrabi (from the garden)

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tell me more. I'm always trying to figure out what to do with kohlrabi.

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Originally Posted by jackattack

tell me more. I'm always trying to figure out what to do with kohlrabi.

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Look no further man. This recipe kicked ass.
https://happyacres.blog/2015/07/09/f...rabi-two-ways/
I added lots of fresh dill and garlic from the garden and also threw in a large dried Guajillo chili.
I wish we would have planted more kohlrabi now.
The lacto-pickled cukes in the fridge didn't get canned (I understand they're good for 6 months in the fridge, I canned about half after fermentation). The kohlrabi pickles won't last another 3 weeks.
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Happy to answer any questions you have mate, though I'm a bit of a hack (as my stats attest).

nice, I'll check it out.

Does anyone know what these are? I've been seeing a ton around and am not a mushroom person.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...885a0178a4.jpg

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Originally Posted by garyfromterrace

Haha! I love it. "Waiting for hans" has a nice ring to it. Could be a play?


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my grandmother had 6 children and each of them a couple children
the family holiday house was the place to be from june to september

we were like 20 grandchildren and X amount of relatives.
it was kind of a play

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My guess is pink coral which would put em in the do not eat category. BCmtnhound is the dude though.

Watching Fantastic Fungi on Netflix
Loads of shrooms are new sine i moved here.
High desert not so much
Although Henrys and Uintas slright.
Nothing like here

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Watching Fantastic Fungi on Netflix
Loads of shrooms are new sine i moved here.
High desert not so much
Although Henrys and Uintas slright.
Nothing like here

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Check this out

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Originally Posted by garyfromterrace

My guess is pink coral which would put em in the do not eat category. BCmtnhound is the dude though.

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Ramaria formosa is my guess too. Some sort of Ramaria sp., but we don't have many of those in Utah so I would defer to BCMtnHound as well.

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Originally Posted by garyfromterrace

My guess is pink coral which would put em in the do not eat category. BCmtnhound is the dude though.

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Thanks Gary. Anyone have any recos for a mushroom guide that is a bit less dense than Mushrooms Demistified?

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Check this out

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His metabolic time theory just blew my mind.

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Originally Posted by John_B

Thanks Gary. Anyone have any recos for a mushroom guide that is a bit less dense than Mushrooms Demistified?

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My first book was Mushrooming Without Fear... someone borrowed it from me a long time ago and never returned it, but armed with the knowledge from that and the Audobon Society Guide... I felt a little better about poking around in the woods. I guess there's no substitute for having someone who knows more than you around though.

I bet that paperback is in every library system.

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Originally Posted by ml242

My first book was Mushrooming Without Fear... someone borrowed it from me a long time ago and never returned it, but armed with the knowledge from that and the Audobon Society Guide... I felt a little better about poking around in the woods. I guess there's no substitute for having someone who knows more than you around though.

I bet that paperback is in every library system.

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Thanks. I'm not looking to make mushrooming a huge new hobby but while deer hunting this weekend I was pretty surprised by the amount and variety of shrooms I saw and wished I knew a bit more about them.

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Originally Posted by John_B

Thanks. I'm not looking to make mushrooming a huge new hobby but while deer hunting this weekend I was pretty surprised by the amount and variety of shrooms I saw and wished I knew a bit more about them.

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This has been our approach. Shrooming isn't a huge hobby of ours but it is a great way of learning more about the natural world as we hike, backpack, etc. The edible species are just a nice bonus.

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Originally Posted by tgapp

This has been our approach. Shrooming isn't a huge hobby of ours but it is a great way of learning more about the natural world as we hike, backpack, etc. The edible species are just a nice bonus.

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Yeah, after about the 4th time I said to myself "woah, that's a cool one, I wonder what it is?" I figured I should do something about it.

I'm with you guys. They're just cool and it opened up a new appreciation for being in the woods. Although to be fair you never know when you're gonna find some oysters on the side of the road either.

Similarly, my interest in mushrooms was piqued when I realized that deer hunting season in Western Washington often corresponds well with chantrelles. I haven't taken it farther than hunting chantrelles and cauliflower mushrooms because it's nearly impossible to screw those ones up.

I can confirm that the book Mushrooming Without Fear mentioned above is a good low level introduction. I got it at the library, but should probably buy it to have on hand.

My interest is generally mild and sporadic based on other obligations and life priorities. I had coworkers that were really into it, including one who now is a mycologists researcher. There’s a pretty strong/active community in my area who have an annual foray and a FB group that is very active. There’s a good ID/keying book for NorCal that we use at home. Many SME’s and the authors of that book participate regularly in the local FB group.

Last winter, I found a mushroom on my property where one of the guidebook authors point out to the others trying to figure out what I found that it was a known spp, but poorly documented and not included in the book.

My daughter and I have fun trying to key out samples that we find and checking with the FB group. We often can banter with the experts a bit to learn if we mis-keyed the specimens.

This year has been insane for me. I've generally got a few mushrooms in the past. But this year between staying closer to home, retirement, and dog requiring daily 5km+ rides and hikes, I've been fucking slaying it. Also getting some great beta from long time shroomers on proper picking etiquette to ensure I'm harvesting sustainably.

Part of the haul from 3 days ago (again just taking the dog for a bike ride). One dehydrator already almost full
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Yesterday (pines and cauliflowers) and today (chantrelles, from my yard):
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I feel insanely fortunate and blown away. I also don't think I'll have to buy store bought mushrooms all winter.

edit, sorry about the fucking sideways photos.

wow Gary, nice haul

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Originally Posted by Norseman

wow Gary, nice haul

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Thanks buddy! I feel insanely lucky, it has to be luck since I have no real skills in this field haha. Miss ya, looking forward to another visit my friend (hopefully with family in tow).

Can I get some help identifying these? All growing in my lawn in Central WA, under birch, spruce, and hazelnut trees. In peak season, I've filled the wheel barrow to the brim... I guess I'm mainly concerned that some of them might be poisonous and that kids will eat them.

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Nice bike ride here in WA

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Nice bike ride here in WA

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Does anyone know what these are? I've been seeing a ton around and am not a mushroom person.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...885a0178a4.jpg

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Around here we have lions mane that kinda looks like that. Quick google tells me this -

The easiest way to tell a Lion's Mane from a coral fungi is the direction of the teeth. Lion's Mane mushroom and other hericiums have downward facing teeth while Coral fungi teeth point upwards.

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I'm not a picker, but I'll share a story from a motorcycle ride this weekend...

I was out in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest, riding some technical singletrack. For those outside the area, this expansive national forest covers a great deal of land between Mt. Adams and Mt. St. Helens in SW Washington. In particular, we were in the southern portion, near Dark Meadow and Dark Mountain when two riders emerge and ask us if we've seen a hiker recently.

Apparently, they ran into a mushroom hunter in nothing but a hoodie and backpack who had been out in the Gifford (as we call it) for four days and nights. No camp gear, no provisions, and only subsisting on what he could forage and drinking from creeks. This was on Sunday, and it rained much of the week leading up to it. Four fucking nights with no gear with lows likely in the 30s or low 40s, at best. Fucking gnarly. The picker started out in Randle, which is well north of where he was contacted by the riders.

The other riders were able to get a text out to a USFS Ranger stationed nearby and directed him to the nearest major road in hopes of extraction.

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Around here we have lions mane that kinda looks like that. Quick google tells me this -

The easiest way to tell a Lion's Mane from a coral fungi is the direction of the teeth. Lion's Mane mushroom and other hericiums have downward facing teeth while Coral fungi teeth point upwards.

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No.

The easiest way to distinguish between the two is that the hericium only grow on decaying wood and corals grow out of the soil.

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Originally Posted by neckdeep

No.

The easiest way to distinguish between the two is that the hericium only grow on decaying wood and corals grow out of the soil.

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NO!

Whoa dude. Go easy there necky. If you were observant, you would have noticed it was a cut and paste in italics from googles. And we have decaying blowdowns, mostly buried, that have Lions Mane growing from what looks like soil.

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Originally Posted by waveshello

Can I get some help identifying these? All growing in my lawn in Central WA, under birch, spruce, and hazelnut trees. In peak season, I've filled the wheel barrow to the brim... I guess I'm mainly concerned that some of them might be poisonous and that kids will eat them.

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The offcolor white with brown gills ones appear to be agaricus, the same genus that contains the common commercial mushroom agaricus bisporus. This is a complex genus to pick as it is large and has a lot of overlapping physical characteristics. It contains a mix of choice edible species, mediocre but edibles, bad tasting ones and some toxics. Agaricus toxins are not fatal, just gastroenteritis. But, the real danger lies in picking the young buttons. If you can't inspect the gills, you can't safely distinguish between the agaricus and amanitas, which can grow intermingled in lawn/meadow habitat. As a result, mistakes with agaricus species can be fatal and its probably the most common fatal mistake made by inexperienced pickers. Example: i cant tell what #3 is but stay away from white body/white gilled field mushrooms.

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The offcolor white with brown gills ones appear to be agarics, the same genus that contains the common commercial mushroom agaricus bisporus. This is a complex genus to pick as it is large and has a lot of overlapping physical characteristics. It contains a mix of choice edible species, mediocre but edibles, bad tasting ones and some toxics. Agaricus toxins are not fatal, just gastroenteritis. But, the real danger lies in picking the young buttons. If you can't inspect the gills, you can't safely distinguish between the agaricus and amanitas, which can grow intermingled in lawn/meadow habitat. As a result, mistakes with agaricus species can be fatal and its probably the most common fatal mistake made by inexperienced pickers. Example; i cant tell what #3 is but stay away from white body/white gilled field mushrooms.

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This is the right answer here. Another common mistake is puffballs vs amanitas - be careful when harvesting those. Amanitas has a number of clear distinguishing features when mature, the most notable of which being the cup or vulva that forms at the base of the mushroom.

With Agaricus, the most common gastrointestinal irritating species (that I know of, anyway) is A. xanthodermus, which has a strong phenolic smell that only concentrates when boiled or cooked. If the mushroom smells sweet/almondy, you likely have A. arvensis or A. campestri, both choice edibles. A. xanthodermus smells disgusting when boiled


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Originally Posted by neckdeep

The offcolor white with brown gills ones appear to be agarics, the same genus that contains the common commercial mushroom agaricus bisporus. This is a complex genus to pick as it is large and has a lot of overlapping physical characteristics. It contains a mix of choice edible species, mediocre but edibles, bad tasting ones and some toxics. Agaricus toxins are not fatal, just gastroenteritis. But, the real danger lies in picking the young buttons. If you can't inspect the gills, you can't safely distinguish between the agaricus and amanitas, which can grow intermingled in lawn/meadow habitat. As a result, mistakes with agaricus species can be fatal and its probably the most common fatal mistake made by inexperienced pickers. Example; i cant tell what #3 is but stay away from white body/white gilled field mushrooms.

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Thank you. I did some of my own research between when I posted this and now, and indeed, 1-3 are very difficult to identify. I'll get some more pictures of #3 if I can--if I get some more coming up and can find a more mature sample.

I'm thinking #4 maybe a false chanterelle?

I'm not planning on eating any of these (I would if any were clearly edible), I mostly just wanted to know how careful I need to be about keeping these out of the yard for children's sake.

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Also another common way of distinguishing between Amanitas and other choice edibles is that both puffballs and Agaricus will grow in clusters or clumps. Amanitas always grow as single mushrooms, though there could be multiple growing in close proximity.

With puffballs, slice the mushie in half vertically to check and see if there is a proto-gill structure. If there is throw it out. If it looks uniform inside or with a slightly yellow paste, it's good.

Not a foolproof method but one that has served me well. Amanitas absolutely exploded this year in Utah, I probably saw 50 Amanitas caps for every Agaricus or puffball.

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Anybody ever have a problem with their dog eating bad shrooms? We get some in the yard from time to time and I have no idea if they are safe or not..

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Anybody ever have a problem with their dog eating bad shrooms? We get some in the yard from time to time and I have no idea if they are safe or not..

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No but there are tons of species that are poisonous to dogs. The ones I would be worried about (in Utah anyway) are Amanitas and Coprinus/Coprinellus (ink caps). There are a few Facebook groups set up around emergency veterinarian plant/mushroom ID, I would bookmark those just in case.

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Shroom toxins are scary but, for perspective, there are common wildflowers that are much, much worse. The worst shroom toxins take days to kill. There's a common flower around here thats so neurotoxic you probably wont make it to the hospital.

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I'm thinking #4 maybe a false chanterelle?

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Looks like something in the paxillus genus. If it is a pax, its potentially toxic but fatal pax poisoning requires eating large amounts