Nordica Enforcers - TGR-Enough for Their Own Thread

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Originally Posted by chaka

I was hoping you would chime in BanditMan, a regular Oracle of OG Gotama knowledge/comparisons to other skis ;) Surprised to hear the Got is stiffer and more damp than the enforcer as they (the Gots) lack metal. I'm definitely not looking for a pow ski, more an everyday ski when messing around with my kids at Snoq Pass. I also have a Scott Punisher (108, 110 width?) which I like when there is a little fresh, but want something a little narrower and more effective on non-fresh days. And maybe as a no brainer travel ski.

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I bought the Enforcer 104 Free for a smiliar spot in my quiver but for Stevens Pass :) I wanted a fun but capable ski that lets me ski the entire mountain and I can ski hard or relax when I'm groomer zooming with my kids. The Enforcer 104 will very much work for that use. It's great in bumps, carves groomers well for how much rocker it has, and is capable off trail in soft snow. It really is the most versatile Enforcer for a West Coast skier, IMO. So, what are it's weaknesses? It is 104-mm in the waist, but really doesn't float all that well. Also, it's fairly stiff, but not as damp as I would like. It also has a speed limit compared to skis like the Bonafide. In crud, it is above average, but not a variable snow/heavy crud crusher.

I have ended up skiing my Enforcer 104's a lot less than I thought I would at the beginning of the season for one reason...I bought a pair of 110's. I just like them better. They aren't as quick, but they still rail groomers, are more damp, but are so much better off trail. I have had some great deep days on my Enforcer 110's locally. They have become my skiing with my kids on a soft snow day ski. I'm either going to sell my 104's or pass them to my 16-yo...not becasue they aren't a great ski for what you are after, but rather I found a better ski, the Enforcer 110.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

I bought the Enforcer 104 Free for a smiliar spot in my quiver but for Stevens Pass :) I wanted a fun but capable ski that lets me ski the entire mountain and I can ski hard or relax when I'm groomer zooming with my kids. The Enforcer 104 will very much work for that use. It's great in bumps, carves groomers well for how much rocker it has, and is capable off trail in soft snow. It really is the most versatile Enforcer for a West Coast skier, IMO. So, what are it's weaknesses? It is 104-mm in the waist, but really doesn't float all that well. Also, it's fairly stiff, but not as damp as I would like. It also has a speed limit compared to skis like the Bonafide. In crud, it is above average, but not a variable snow/heavy crud crusher.

I have ended up skiing my Enforcer 104's a lot less than I thought I would at the beginning of the season for one reason...I bought a pair of 110's. I just like them better. They aren't as quick, but they still rail groomers, are more damp, but are so much better off trail. I have had some great deep days on my Enforcer 110's locally. They have become my skiing with my kids on a soft snow day ski. I'm either going to sell my 104's or pass them to my 16-yo...not becasue they aren't a great ski for what you are after, but rather I found a better ski, the Enforcer 110.

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I'm curious how much of your experience changes if you were on the 191cm 104? I haven't seen any reviews of the longer length.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

I bought the Enforcer 104 Free for a smiliar spot in my quiver but for Stevens Pass :) I wanted a fun but capable ski that lets me ski the entire mountain and I can ski hard or relax when I'm groomer zooming with my kids. The Enforcer 104 will very much work for that use. It's great in bumps, carves groomers well for how much rocker it has, and is capable off trail in soft snow. It really is the most versatile Enforcer for a West Coast skier, IMO. So, what are it's weaknesses? It is 104-mm in the waist, but really doesn't float all that well. Also, it's fairly stiff, but not as damp as I would like. It also has a speed limit compared to skis like the Bonafide. In crud, it is above average, but not a variable snow/heavy crud crusher.

I have ended up skiing my Enforcer 104's a lot less than I thought I would at the beginning of the season for one reason...I bought a pair of 110's. I just like them better. They aren't as quick, but they still rail groomers, are more damp, but are so much better off trail. I have had some great deep days on my Enforcer 110's locally. They have become my skiing with my kids on a soft snow day ski. I'm either going to sell my 104's or pass them to my 16-yo...not becasue they aren't a great ski for what you are after, but rather I found a better ski, the Enforcer 110.

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Thanks BanditMan. Very helpful You should trade me your enforcers for my BGs and give those to your kid. He'll love you more.

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Originally Posted by phatty

I'm curious how much of your experience changes if you were on the 191cm 104? I haven't seen any reviews of the longer length.

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I’ve thought about that, as the 186 Enforcer 104 can feel short and the 18.5-cm radius can feel too small. The 191 gets you to 19.5-m and probably a little better float and stability. Problem is that the 191 Enforcer 110 is a 20.5-m radius and it’s pretty close to perfect for me.

Curious if anyone has skied both the Enforcer 104 or 110, and the Atomic Vantage Ritual from several years ago and could offer a comparison. Asking because I seem to like the same skis Bandit Man likes, and ski the same mountain most frequently. I have Enforcer 93's in 186 for daily drivers and Bibby Pro's for over several inches of fresh. I'm was quite content with that quiver of 2. I picked up some Rituals in 190 for cheap on a whim for in-between conditions and am liking them very much as well.

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Originally Posted by chaka

Thanks BanditMan. Very helpful You should trade me your enforcers for my BGs and give those to your kid. He'll love you more.

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He already has 184 BG’s from last year. If he ever puts some meat on his bones, he gets to ride my SG’s. Still too skinny at this point.

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Originally Posted by Fred Pabst

OK..Thanks. Just came across a new in plastic pair of 110's in a 191 with the first year green graphic I may pull the trigger on.

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All right! The deal is done. Now it's time to play the mount point game as I wait for delivery, which I love. I most certainly will not be forward mounting. Seems I've read Blister liked them on the line, Geezer Steve was -1.8, Calibrit was around -0.5?

Bandit Man, I don't think I ever saw where yours were mounted? Might favor a slight mount back of the line. 220lbs with a 326 bsl if that matters. For reference I like the R11 on the line.

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Originally Posted by Fred Pabst

. . . Geezer Steve was -1.8, Calibrit was around -0.5?

Bandit Man, I don't think I ever saw where yours were mounted? Might favor a slight mount back of the line. 220lbs with a 326 bsl if that matters.

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FWIW, I'm 245 lbs., 6'1", 331 BSL. There are threads on pugski (cue to snicker) and reddit about E110 mount point. Bigger/taller posters who have tried different mounts prefer them back -1 to -2. One guy was -2.5.

Just purchased some 185 E110s through ptex in MT. The shipped price and mounted with new bindings was too good to pass up. I love my 185 E100 but they're on their last legs so looking forward to getting on the new sticks! I'm 6', 170# and mounting them on the line.

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Originally Posted by cmsummit

Just purchased some 185 E110s through ptex in MT. The shipped price and mounted with new bindings was too good to pass up. I love my 185 E100 but they're on their last legs so looking forward to getting on the new sticks! I'm 6', 170# and mounting them on the line.

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Ptex is a straight up good cat with great hookups... 99% of my skis are chargers and I was looking for a more relaxed ski for family days and due to Bandit Man I ended giving the Enforcer 100 a shot... I ended up buying from Ptex last season a pair of 193 Enforcer 100s for $350 shipped... No one could even come close including my local shop who I spend a shit ton of money with... I absolutely love my Enforcer 100s and are the skis I was looking for... Easy as shit to ski and pretty much does everything well...


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Originally Posted by GeezerSteve

FWIW, I'm 245 lbs., 6'1", 331 BSL. There are threads on pugski (cue to snicker) and reddit about E110 mount point. Bigger/taller posters who have tried different mounts prefer them back -1 to -2. One guy was -2.5.

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I’m only 5’8” and 195, so on the line for the 191 110 has been great for me. You’ve got 50-lbs on me, so going rear-ward makes more sense. Also, you might be happier on the Pro/115. I’m afraid you’re going to break the 110’s in half mid-turn. [emoji16]

Let my 145-lb 16-yo ski my 186 Enforcer 104’s at Whistler last Friday. 12” of soft powder that was wind affected in some spots. He was skiing like a mad man on them. He said they were more stable than his 185 100’s and he loved that the rocker in the tail “didn’t force him to ski a certain kind of turn”.

I was going to sell them, but it looks like I’ll be selling his 100’s instead. I’ve got 50-lbs in him, so it was interesting to see how much more stable they felt to him. He was maching through soft, deep crud all day with no issues. He was dropping small airs all day and they were just solid and stable for him. His new favorite ski.

Anyone have time on the 191 Enforcer 104? I used Bandit's 191 110 yesterday at Whistler and, while I really liked it, found I wanted a little more top end when things got chopped up. With the crazy deals Corbetts has right now, seriously thinking of the 104 in the longer length. I'm 6'1", 195# and generally would consider myself a "charger" on a 190 QLab DD who's looking for some playability and a little tail rocker in my next ski.

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Originally Posted by phatty

Anyone have time on the 191 Enforcer 104? I used Bandit's 191 110 yesterday at Whistler and, while I really liked it, found I wanted a little more top end when things got chopped up. With the crazy deals Corbetts has right now, seriously thinking of the 104 in the longer length. I'm 6'1", 195# and generally would consider myself a "charger" on a 190 QLab DD who's looking for some playability and a little tail rocker in my next ski.

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Unfortunately Corbetts is sold out of the manly sizes. Price on E104 is down to around $350 shipped.

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Originally Posted by phatty

Unfortunately Corbetts is sold out of the manly sizes. Price on E104 is down to around $350 shipped.

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And where would that be? Looks more like $600 to me.

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Originally Posted by Nevada29er

And where would that be? Looks more like $600 to me.

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Corbetts.com. Pricing is in CAD and if you call them, they will sell without the bindings. Buying separately its more like $365. With bindings it's around $460 USD shipped with no tax.

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Anyone have time on the 191 Enforcer 104? I used Bandit's 191 110 yesterday at Whistler and, while I really liked it, found I wanted a little more top end when things got chopped up. With the crazy deals Corbetts has right now, seriously thinking of the 104 in the longer length. I'm 6'1", 195# and generally would consider myself a "charger" on a 190 QLab DD who's looking for some playability and a little tail rocker in my next ski.

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I own the 185 enforcer 110 and have tried the 186 E 104. Even though the 104 is heavier with slightly less rocker, I thought the E 110 handled chop at speed better and carved just as well. If the E 110 wasn’t enough ski for you I don’t think the E 104 would either. Enforcer fr line aren’t all out chargers. They are very versatile and let you sort of charge and still be playful and trickable.

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I own the 185 enforcer 110 and have tried the 186 E 104. Even though the 104 is heavier with slightly less rocker, I thought the E 110 handled chop at speed better and carved just as well. If the E 110 wasn’t enough ski for you I don’t think the E 104 would either. Enforcer fr line aren’t all out chargers. They are very versatile and let you sort of charge and still be playful and trickable.

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I ended up pulling the trigger on the 191 E104. We'll see how it goes. I know it likely won't have the high top end I want, but I figure I can ski it a few days and sell it for not much of a loss. I still have my charger skis for the days I know I'll want to get after it.

They are perfect for those days when you want to do a little of everything. They should fit in your quiver well, as long as you aren’t expecting them to replace your charger

Had a couple sessions this weekend, before the end, to ski my new 191 cm Enforcer 110's. Shit-fuck conditions as we had just had a thaw/freeze cycle, which they had managed to groom out to an OK surface. None the less, I had to give them a try. Me I'm 6' and 220. I chose to mount these on the line after doing a comparison to my R11's, which are also on the line. The mount point being about 2 cm further back from the R11 had me thinking it looked good. After skiing a few days, the mount feels fine to me for what I want the ski to do.

Hadn't owned a Nordica since the Girish, a ski I really liked. I got to say I was pretty blown away with this ski. Bring back camber and less rocker works for me. They say the R11 is a versatile ski but there's no way they would have worked as well in that particular condition as the E110. To me the ski felt stiff and wanted to run. Jury is still out on crud performance but I thought there was enough stiffness underfoot to offset the softer tips.

This ski will replace a 190 Qlab, and probably will be my new ski of choice for travel, which has been the bmx105hp. The E110 categorized as an accessible(read easy) charger is spot on, but I didn't feel like I was giving up much. Sad part is now I have to wait until next season to get on them again.

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Originally Posted by Fred Pabst

This ski will replace a 190 Qlab, and probably will be my new ski of choice for travel, which has been the bmx105hp. The E110 categorized as an accessible(read easy) charger is spot on, but I didn't feel like I was giving up much. Sad part is now I have to wait until next season to get on them again.

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Great review. Interesting as I'm also looking to replace a 190 QLab. I only had 1 day on the 191 E110 but felt it gave up more than I wanted on crud performance from the QLab. After that E110 day, I got out with the QLab and confirmed what I thought. While they are only 1mm difference in width, I felt the E110 was harder to get up on edge. Both can turn well (E110 has tighter radius), but the QLab was much better bombing through chunked up, end of day snow. The strong tail acts like a gas pedal when you really want to get going. The E110 definitely felt lighter, more playful under foot. It is a great ski, just couldn't knock out my QLab (for me). I have a 191 E104 coming to see how well it does since I wanted to slim the waist for my DD ski. With the QLab not worth anything, even on this board, it will stay in the quiver anyway.

Hope I can still get a couple days on the E104 before the end of the season.

Same here, only that I got my 191 E104 on the day all resorts closed. So I have to wait till next season. Happy to share how they ski then. I am in the same heavy class of 6.2 and 225, so me and my chargers are keen to find out how they ski.

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Originally Posted by phatty

Interesting as I'm also looking to replace a 190 QLab. I only had 1 day on the 191 E110 but felt it gave up more than I wanted on crud performance from the QLab. After that E110 day, I got out with the QLab and confirmed what I thought. While they are only 1mm difference in width, I felt the E110 was harder to get up on edge. Both can turn well (E110 has tighter radius), but the QLab was much better bombing through chunked up, end of day snow. The strong tail acts like a gas pedal when you really want to get going. The E110 definitely felt lighter, more playful under foot. It is a great ski, just couldn't knock out my QLab (for me). I have a 191 E104 coming to see how well it does since I wanted to slim the waist for my DD ski. With the QLab not worth anything, even on this board, it will stay in the quiver anyway.

Hope I can still get a couple days on the E104 before the end of the season.

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More than likely it is not going to have the crud performance of the Qlab. The heaviness and stiffness combined with the low profile tip of that ski made it cut through crud oh so well. You are right though never seemed like much love for that ski even on this board. Some blamed it on the forward mount point? Whatever, I got the ski just fine. Lots of good days on mine. Who knows they could come to play again. I don't even bother to try to sell my old skis at this point. What I like about the E110 vs Qlab was the point of contact in the tip, Qlab being much further back and with a lot more tip rocker. I like that the E110 does not have the rocker.

E104 looks very nice as well and is definitely on my radar for a possible replacement to the bmx105hp in a few years. Have got to wear those out first. Next ski on my replacement list is maybe going to be the new katana to replace my 6 y.o. cochise, but that is probably couple years out too.

Another Qlab 190 fan boy here....a ski that I feel was missed by many and those that experienced it got why it’s such a good ski. The long rocker line and brick stiff tail gobble crud.

With the love affair aside, I was very impressed with the 94 for next season. Thought it skied well/honest and balanced for everything. I also got on the 104, I felt the same about this width too. Both skis I had in manky wet and refreeze stiff.....no these don’t have the bite of a race ski but can’t have it all on boilerplate.

I’ll own a pair of 94s as a DD next season. It charges ok, can be shut down fast and I liked the tight turn and bump performance. Seems like an awesome all around resort line up to me.

Love my Enforcer 100 185cm skis. Also picked them up from Ptex last year so thank you for the great hook up! I've loved this ski ever since the first time they touched snow. For my skiing style, it's pretty much the perfect ski for non powder days... even though it does handle <12" powder days pretty decently.

Thinking of picking up the 110 for deeper days but already have BMX 105s 189cm, which are actually pretty amazing in anything soft and up to really really deep days, and OG Volkl Shiros. Thinking the Enforcer 110s would be a good travel ski when there is snow in the forecast since it seems they can handle a bit of everything and love the relative dampness of the Enforcer build. Thoughts?

I used a 185cm Enforcer 110 as a travel ski and it works great in that role. Very versatile. It only recently got bumped for a 184cm Volkl Mantra 102 which, for me, works better with its higher top end.

Hello Enforcer 110 mags! I'm looking for a damp but approachable and maneuverable ski that floats in pow that I could use a daily driver at a resort that gets 500 inches of snow per year.

I'm 5'11'', 195 lbs. I'm an OK skier. I don't send big air or spin. I'm not an ex racer. I just like to ski. My all time favorite skis are Line Influence 105s (pretty stiff, but very damp and they plane up on pow. Not as maneuverable as I'd like in tight spots), Volkl Kendos (best combo of energy, pop, dampness and the ability to make any turn shape that I've found in a low tide ski) and Liberty Origin 106 (I love the pop and maneuverability of bamboo, but I have to drive them hard and make short turns in crud or they deflect).

I'm looking for something that I can ski with confidence in open terrain in ping pong ball visibility that still has the ability to bend into shorter turn radius in tight trees. I'd likely mount with shift bindings for quick side country missions with skinning required to get back to the resort. Is the Enforcer 110 the ski for me?

If so, should I go 191 or 185?

You just described the Dynastar M-Free 108.

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

You just described the Dynastar M-Free 108.

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

You just described the Dynastar M-Free 108.

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Thanks. Out of curiosity, why would you select the M-Free 108 in my position? Easier to ski than the Enforcer 110? More fun?

I have an idea in my head that the enforcer would be more stable. Do you think that is accurate?

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Hello Enforcer 110 mags! I'm looking for a damp but approachable and maneuverable ski that floats in pow that I could use a daily driver at a resort that gets 500 inches of snow per year.

I'm 5'11'', 195 lbs. I'm an OK skier. I don't send big air or spin. I'm not an ex racer. I just like to ski. My all time favorite skis are Line Influence 105s (pretty stiff, but very damp and they plane up on pow. Not as maneuverable as I'd like in tight spots), Volkl Kendos (best combo of energy, pop, dampness and the ability to make any turn shape that I've found in a low tide ski) and Liberty Origin 106 (I love the pop and maneuverability of bamboo, but I have to drive them hard and make short turns in crud or they deflect).

I'm looking for something that I can ski with confidence in open terrain in ping pong ball visibility that still has the ability to bend into shorter turn radius in tight trees. I'd likely mount with shift bindings for quick side country missions with skinning required to get back to the resort. Is the Enforcer 110 the ski for me?

If so, should I go 191 or 185?

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I’m 6ft 180 and have the 100’s in 185.

I wish I got the 191.

The 100’s ski a little short, not sure if the110’s

I’d go 191


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Originally Posted by Kevo

Hello Enforcer 110 mags! I'm looking for a damp but approachable and maneuverable ski that floats in pow that I could use a daily driver at a resort that gets 500 inches of snow per year.

I'm 5'11'', 195 lbs. I'm an OK skier. I don't send big air or spin. I'm not an ex racer. I just like to ski. My all time favorite skis are Line Influence 105s (pretty stiff, but very damp and they plane up on pow. Not as maneuverable as I'd like in tight spots), Volkl Kendos (best combo of energy, pop, dampness and the ability to make any turn shape that I've found in a low tide ski) and Liberty Origin 106 (I love the pop and maneuverability of bamboo, but I have to drive them hard and make short turns in crud or they deflect).

I'm looking for something that I can ski with confidence in open terrain in ping pong ball visibility that still has the ability to bend into shorter turn radius in tight trees. I'd likely mount with shift bindings for quick side country missions with skinning required to get back to the resort. Is the Enforcer 110 the ski for me?

If so, should I go 191 or 185?

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Consider also the Rustler 11.

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Originally Posted by Kevo

If so, should I go 191 or 185?

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Im same weight but got 2 inches on you. I went with 185 mostly because I got a deal and I like to spin. Size has been good for me, if I was skiing mostly open faces I would probably size up, but the 185 still works for that.
That said the E110 would not be my first choice as a 50/50 ski. It’s more of a resort dd for me. Plenty of lighter looser skis out there if you are gonna skin fairly often.



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Hello Enforcer 110 mags! I'm looking for a damp but approachable and maneuverable ski that floats in pow that I could use a daily driver at a resort that gets 500 inches of snow per year.

I'm 5'11'', 195 lbs. I'm an OK skier. I don't send big air or spin. I'm not an ex racer. I just like to ski. My all time favorite skis are Line Influence 105s (pretty stiff, but very damp and they plane up on pow. Not as maneuverable as I'd like in tight spots), Volkl Kendos (best combo of energy, pop, dampness and the ability to make any turn shape that I've found in a low tide ski) and Liberty Origin 106 (I love the pop and maneuverability of bamboo, but I have to drive them hard and make short turns in crud or they deflect).

I'm looking for something that I can ski with confidence in open terrain in ping pong ball visibility that still has the ability to bend into shorter turn radius in tight trees. I'd likely mount with shift bindings for quick side country missions with skinning required to get back to the resort. Is the Enforcer 110 the ski for me?

If so, should I go 191 or 185?

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5’ 8”, 195-lbs...ski the 191 110. Very close to what you are looking for. Does have a top end, but floats well, crazy agile in the trees and tight spaces, and slays groomers. Would also recommend the Rustler 11 in a 188. Not as damp, but very quick and more “fun”. Floats a bit better but still amazing on the groomers. Haven’t skied the new Dynastars others are recommending.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

5’ 8”, 195-lbs...ski the 191 110. Very close to what you are looking for. Does have a top end, but floats well, crazy agile in the trees and tight spaces, and slays groomers. Would also recommend the Rustler 11 in a 188. Not as damp, but very quick and more “fun”. Floats a bit better but still amazing on the groomers. Haven’t skied the new Dynastars others are recommending.

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Thanks! I bought a pair of Rustler 11s.

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Thanks! I bought a pair of Rustler 11s.

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Right on! Both are great skis, but the 188 Rustler 11 is a more exciting ski, IMO. Hope you enjoy them.

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Thanks! I bought a pair of Rustler 11s.

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Nice!

New Enforcers were meh for me. I like the older ones (2011?) better, they had a more stiff and even flex.

Rustler is lighter but more consistent. Love them.

Anybody been on the new Enforcer 94? Looking for an all mountain charger/DD to fill the gap between the GS skis and the 100+ underfoot skis in the quiver. looking for a ski that will hold up well at speed, can bust through the crud and hold a nice edge when it is firm. I do tend to like skis with some energy in them and prefer going though crud and bumps as apposed to going over them. Look at the Enforcer 94 and Salomon stance 96, leaning more towards the 94 but have never skied any of the past enforcers.