^ 1) make certain everything is tightened down on the soles, heel, Dynafit fitting - lots of moving parts.
2) these have the new soles that flare a bit, my 120s have older lugs.
3) are your 120s more worn?
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^ 1) make certain everything is tightened down on the soles, heel, Dynafit fitting - lots of moving parts.
2) these have the new soles that flare a bit, my 120s have older lugs.
3) are your 120s more worn?
File that sucker down...or just unscrew it, not like you need it anyway with those boots.
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Originally Posted by robnow
It holds the heel on.
Yea I think I am going to take it apart make sure everything looks right then put it back together nice and tight.
There does seem to be some sharp edges so I may take a file and round them off.
My 120s were not worn down...
Just woundering if anyone else with the HD Pros is seen the same thing..
Mine had similar issues. Loosening the forward pressure a bit seemed to take care of it. The white indicator now shows them as being slightly too loose, but by the forward pressure instructions in the pivot thread, they seem fineQuote:
Originally Posted by phatboy64
I don't have the new boot but can assure you that the endorphins will feel like floppy shoes if compared to the lupo. Much different boot.Quote:
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I skied the Endorphins ~ 2009 or so, as above- this boot retains the walkability, yet is on a different level in-terms of skiing. The Endophins always felt like them might explode off my feet with a hard landing & there was tons of play in the soles. The Lupos will ski like/better than an alpine boot.
You are correct!Quote:
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I will likely get booted from TGR for saying this, but I finally scored a quiver of tongues. Skiing the M for the early season / bootpacking / sketchy stuff really works well.
So after looking more closely I think you are spot on.. it looks like the heal on the sides is getting pinched. It there any negative in shaving the sides?Attachment 303372Attachment 303373Quote:
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I've gotta imagine there's a better option than shaving it down. I haven't had any issues with my HD with P18.Quote:
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What boots are you using? I have heard from a few folks that Attachment 303433the grip walk soles are a little more “flared” over last years. I had the lupo 120 last year and had no issues...same skis and bindings...
In my opinion it seems like all you need to do is step in one time off center and the rubber of the GW sole will get bent out...then it is a persistent issue.
I shaved the side a little and the problem is solved....just strange IMO...
Speaks to me that the forward pressure might be a tad too low. Tell tale to me is non erect dildo. I might be all wrong but...Quote:
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Ignoring the wedge indicator, with the boot clicked in, what happens if you try to yank the dildo sideways with your hand? Does it move easily? If so, increase FP until it hardly moves when yanked.
Got one day on my AX HD’s touring. Some pretty mellow terrain so didn’t get a feel for how they do when pushed, but they seem stiffer than their 110 flex rating would indicate, coming from freedom RS’s they don’t feel much softer at all. And stiffer than my 5 year old il moros.
I got so little skiing in I don’t want to comment much more on how they skied.
they tour very well, plenty of ROM, seem warmer than my freedoms, I don’t feel any weight difference.
Not sure what I think about the liner yet. Seems to have some weird pressure points. And doesn’t feel quite as fluid as my il moros driving the boot through the shin. But I’m guessing they’ll improve some as they break in.
got a super good heel hold in these too. Don’t feel like I need to crank them down nearly as much to still feel secure.
worst thing so far is having to remove the tongues, I’m ok with the sacrifice but it does add a lot of time transitioning having to completely undo the boot, throw the tongues on and buckle up again. Hopefully I can dial in a system a little better to make it faster. I’m thinking a little stretch cord and tiny carabiner to hook to the tongue and something else so I can maybe run the toe buckle but not the other two and hopefully not give up too much rom
That is what I thought at first but it checks out fine. If you look really close at the first pic where the arm meets the turntable you will see the rubber on the GW sole bending up due to the whole heal being a tad too wide. Inside when the rubber was warm I didn’t notice but the first time I got them out in the snow and tried to step in I had issues....i compared these soles to the ones that came on my last years AX120 and they are a few mm wider for sure.
I didn’t have to shave much off the sides to get them to work.
Ahhh, gotcha! Clear as mud.Quote:
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Yea...I know.... PIA for me but solved now....
Been skiing Krypton Pros.
Just treated myself to some Candide 4.0’s, Shifts and Lupo Pros.
Will report back after I ski them. Slow start at Whistler/Baker this year so won’t be for a few weeks.
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Question for the Lupo heads:
Looking for real world experience and usage of the GripWalk w/ Pivot dual WTR binders. Read that they’re compatible and understand they were not specifically designed to. I could find that chart but I’m sure somebody’s dealt with this..
For me, Lupo AX in the alpine setting allows the boot but afd is jammed/pressured. Then on wtr setting boot floats over afd.
I’m strongly committed to a handful of wtr pivot binders and shifts only. I suppose could change soles out though was enjoying the stride when wearing around house.
The boots are new, so I’m facing a point of no return trying to get out tomorrow or use old boots and keep looking. Thanks
Regardless of what the binding manufacturers say the sole issue is still a shit show.
I have a pit of boots with grip walk and din soles. Afd on the grip walk sole doesn’t align with Salomon binding afd.
Afd on din soles doesn’t alight with Marker binding afd.
Certainly didn’t try all Salomons and all Marker models though.
Haven't gotten them on snow yet, but my lupos seem to align fine with pivot gripwalk afd and standard Salomon sth2 16 DIN afd. They don't align with pivot DIN afd.
Interesting. I’m 27.5 AX. Wonder if she’ll length comes into play. Are you in HD? Have they changed the GW sole in new models? Mine are light blue shell.Quote:
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Edit: NvM maybe you’re saying you have the current year GW Pivot. I’ve got 2 yr old wtr.
Yeah, I'm in the HD. But I've played with a buddy's AX and the gripwalk pads appear to be in the same spot.Quote:
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I have a few different generations of pivots and fks's. They all started with standard DIN afd's (which didn't line up) but I've been replacing the afd's with new gripwalks.
In replacing do you mean toe swap or is there an afd swap? My short research showed no part number and spiderjon commentsQuote:
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Afd swap. You have to pull the toe off the ski, but then it's just a plastic plate with the afd attached that gets replaced. Super easy.Quote:
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*This is for pivot 18's. Not sure if it's different on other models.
That would save my situation. These are P14s. Where do you buy them?Quote:
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I just got them from my local shop. They were able to order them recently, so look has them in stock right now.Quote:
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To close the loop on my thread drift regarding Lupo GW and Pivot WTR toes:/
Short story is Lupo GW works in Alpine setting. The afd is pressured differently than with din sole. Local shop benched tested GW in alpine wtr w/ passing test marks often ideal. Old toes can convert afds but the wtr toe doesn’t allow new design nor does it need it. Shop also mailed me this recent notice:
Full Action “DUAL” toe pieces cannot be converted to the non-sliding “GripWalk” AFD’s. There was an update to the tabs that attach to the toe wings when we converted to AW/GW models. The “DUAL” AFD in “Alpine” mode stands higher than the new GripWalk AFD, thus the 2mm gap. “DUAL” toe pieces are compatible with GW in the “Alpine” setting, and obviously AW/GW models are compatible with Gripwalk soles with no adjustment necessary.
I like the old-school race-plates.Quote:
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sarcasm, right? that's a test mount
But in all seriousness, I like your idea of mounting to two skis layered on top of each other to increase stiffness. Obviously it costs twice as much (since you need 4 skis), but I bet that setup will crush through mank.Quote:
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Haha. That pic was in the shop prior to mount. Those Shifts were the display model bolted to a piece of wood.Quote:
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Here is what it looks like:
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Dying lol. I’ll report back. No more This or That ski. BOTH SKIQuote:
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Can anyone comment in a little more detail on the overall fit/volume of the Lupo Pro HD? Toe box/mid foot room? Molding liners to create space?
First post (n00b) won't let me type out everything I want to (large feet/big legs, but prefer an aggressive boot. I know boot work can be done, etc.), but I'd love some firsthand accounts of how this thing fits out of the box and vs. other boots. Have heard (and am hoping) that the overall volume feels a little larger than the stated 98mm last. This one looks awesome and any information is greatly appreciated!
I'd say that's about right. Especially with the stock liner, which is a good bit thinner than most of the alpine oriented intuitions.Quote:
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I'm a low-ish volume foot and the stock liner wasn't even close to being workable for me (although I dropped it into my touring boots, and it's a good fit there). I'm putting luxury liners into mine and hoping that takes up enough space.
Anybody able to compare yet the Lupo Pro to the 130/125/Factory? I assume there's a bit more 'damping' but is there enough difference to warrant a change for a nicer feel at the resort? I'm on the 130C currently.
So my 2 cents having owned both.Quote:
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Just for reference, my size is 26.5 and I normally use Intuition LV Dream Liners in my boots. With the dream liners I always need minor boot work for all boots I have owned that were 98mm or less.
The AX120 (100mm) was very loose on my foot and the stock liner was in my opinion very flimsy and soft.
The Pro HD out of the box with the stock liner was tight, side to side and over the instep. Even after heating it was tight. The heal was nice and no issue in the toe area.
I put a pair of LV dream liners in them and they were perfect. Not boot mods needed. So based on this my feeling is that they are a “looser” 98mm they any of my other boots..
For me they are night and day over the AX 120 from a DH performance standpoint. Very strong DH performance
Hello...anybody? I think there's at least a few of you now that have been on both.Quote:
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