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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
other advice:
what ever you THINK you can do, do 1/2 that, twice. That way if you ARE overdoing it, you have only done 50% . And if you CAN do what you hoped you have a rest between.
PM me if you have questions, advice, or need to rant. (maybe use voice to text and again less screen)
Tried to drive to Big Sky to work and turned around. Urgent care tried to order a CT today but surprise, hospital won't take outpatient CT without going through the ER now on weekends.
Pay $1000 at ER now or wait until Tuesday to get CT.
Fuck.
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yea fuq... tough to know what to do.
Things I would do given the situation:
drink lots of water
take aspirin/excedrin pm = thin blood/reduce pain sensitivity
eat if I could - even if i'm not hungry
get a hold of an edible indica
cold compress to the impact area
hot/cold therapy to cervical region
listen to movies I've already seen/mellow music/weather/talk radio
do not do anything stupid if i'm feeling better
chill till tuesday and then get proactive
any negative changes - ER
your plan may be different - vibes
Thanks for this. I am feeling relatively stable right now. Not any worse and not any better than last night/this AM. Just gonna lay low and ride it out for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gepeto
I took a pretty good kaboomer some twenty years ago. I was guiding a b/c mountain bike trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryFunk
After going down hard. I sprung to my feet with cat like reflexes. Slowly wobbling I pulled off my glasses.
Staring the witness in the eyes, I mumble: Are my pupils the same size?
He says: Yes.
Me: I’ll be fine.
Knocked out 15 years ago after getting caught in an avalanche, then dropped off a cliff. Over an hour of my life completely missing, have no recollection whatsoever of what happened from the time I got caught until my ski partner made it down to where I landed. Thankfully no brain bleed (that I know of, didn't actually get it checked) but I seriously think it affected my frontal lobe and led to some personality changes.
I was surfing last year when I collided with another surfer. Hit my head twice. We bumped heads and a board smacked me right to the temple. I was out for about 2 minutes. Good thing my brother saw me and rescued me. Until know, I'm suffering from tinnitus and vertigo because of that collision. Still surfing tho.
Slight improvement over yesterday which is good. Thought for sure I was really really fucked last night. Still not good though.
Honestly, hoping I can at least hike around a little before end of archery season. Biking might be out till the spring. Who knows about ski season. Hope to get in for CT scan tomorrow.
Now that the 3 day weekend is over and people are allowed to be sick again I finally got a call into the hospital. Have to wait until Friday now for CT. WTF. Authorization (aka one phone call) should not have to take 3+ days. Fuck.
I had a concussion once.
Yah, so did I.
Some people are saying scans/doctor is a waste of time. IDK what to do. I can look at a computer for 2 minutes before I get a blinding headache/nausea. Still constant dull headache even if I lay down with my eyes closed and covered for hours. Wake up in the AM already with a headache. I'm really starting to freak.
Lots of "you will be ok in a couple days" well it's pushing 3 weeks now.
you need to slow the fuck down. if 2 min screen time will set you off, you need zero for a few days and then VERY SLOWLY try again.
this MIGHT take a few days, or might take a few months (or more) but you need to start getting some help to resolve it.
FYI: My physio (very sports based) was a good help for me with both treating symptoms and the causation too. We worked on a home based plan to both get better, but also what to do when I over did it. When was too much and what was ok to push a bit.
Dude this sucks, hope you feel better soon. There is a PT in Helena who specializes in concussion treatment. Her name is Johnanna, she's a PhD and she's a great PT and very knowledgeable (she did my ACL rehab and my daughter's rehab from elbow surgery). She used to work for St. Peter's hospital as their chief PT. Anyway lately she has gone into business for herself and gotten into concussion treatment...might be worth looking into if you have somebody who can drive you to Helena.Quote:
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Optimal Physical Therapy
Good luck man. I'm no medical professional so what the hell do I know, but I'd take it super slow. I know at least one person who had bad symptoms for maybe 4-5 months, but was able to recover through it. I think completely recovered.
Sorry it sucks.
what he said, feel better man.Quote:
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(hey mtn lion, those are some great bumper stickers in your signature, i'd love to buy some of them)
Ct scan tomorrow am. Guessing they won't see much. I'm trying not to freak out. Too many stories of people never recovering. I can barely leave the house right now. Acupuncture helps for about an hour and then symptoms return.
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My tendency, just based on my own experiences, is to focus on the neck.
IMHO, it might be worth attempting therapeutic massage and/or PT.
If you're not taking ibuprofen, give 800mg a try....and some ice.
You may have other things going on....I just come from many concussions where my neck has originated headache-like issues for extended periods after the initial impact. It took me quite a few rounds to recognize the headaches and sensitive eyes and stuff were mostly neck-related (for me, in my experience).
vibes. good luck sorting it out.
I think you are onto something. The acupuncturist said the same thing. She has been focusing alot of the work on my neck. Sometimes my neck feels fine, other times it feels stiff/sore like I just crashed my bike yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Much of the headache is actually in my scalp sort of. Hard to explain. I find it difficult to relax the muscles of my forehead. Constant furrowed brow feeling.
Doing more acu tomorrow. Really think massage would be hugely helpful too.
Not to just jump on the neck thing too but I've been dealing with concussion/neck problems for the past year and have some similar symptoms as your forehead muscles. When things are pretty bad for me the tip of my nose has a funny tingle to it. My injury appears to be at the C2-C3 joint.
After reinjuring things again this summer I've tried to be more cognizant of my posture and have been doing a bunch of strengthening and mobility exercises and have been feeling better. The other big recommendation from my PT was to stop sleeping on my stomach and to really play with different pillow arrangements to try to support my head through out the night. I was fortunate enough that my symptoms were never as severe as yours.
Also in my experience massage felt really good, but it never addressed the injury itself so I kind of dismissed it. It was only once I started going to PT & getting some exercises coupled with massage at PT that I really felt like things improved.
If I could boil my advice down to a single sentence it would be to find a PT or similar that can check what's going on in your neck. Don't just trust your GP to give you neck advice like I did. (I guess that was two sentences)
Let me know if you've got questions.
I’ll give a 3rd comment on the neck. Always have had neck issues, even before my recent flight down the stairs. I have a chiropractor that I like, and about finding the inflamed joint and addressing the muscle and lig/tendon group that related to it via joint manipulation, stretches/exercise, massage, NSAIDs, and ice/heat. A big part of my neck recovery from recent and past issues has been sleeping and pillow support. I can tell immediately in the AM if my neck wasn’t supported right because I was favouring a side rather than sleeping on my back - which is my usual sleep position and for what my pillow is designed for.
Best of luck in your diagnosis and recovery!
Happy to say CT came back normal. Only discouraging thing is that people seem to think that means you are just imagining the symptoms and now ready to spring back to action overnight.
Good news then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
Sounds to me like could be neck/muscular. I get bad headaches when stress/overuse/bad posture/bad sleep conspire together. Learn to massage your own neck, shoulders, and head muscles. Take gentle yoga classes.
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Yeah I have this pretty hard foam ball thing like 8" in diameter. Massaging the back right side of my neck with it against a wall = incredible.
Glad the CT scan came out good. I agree that you should see an "expert", not a GP. I have no concussion experiences, but as for neck issues, I have had neck and upper back issues my entire adult life. Numerous things have helped over the years. A memory foam cervical pillow (basically a half cylinder, like this) is the only pillow I use. Took a little getting used to, but it supports the neck in its natural position and helps a lot. Posture is also key. Another thing is that because of bad posture, our heads hang forward all the time. Yet people feel their neck and upper back being sore and try to stretch those muscles, which may seem intuitive but is the exact opposite of what they need. The muscles need to be "fired", to contract, not be stretched. So if your neck is sore, try to (gently) tilt your head back and clench (again, gently) those upper back and neck muscles, hold for a little bit, and let go. At first, it may seem "wrong", but if after doing this gently and releasing, you feel good for even a moment, that's a sign that they need more of that.
A good PT, chiro, osteopath, whatever, can work wonders. A bad one can make your life worse. Don't be afraid to keep searching for the right one(s). Good luck, mang.
Said screw it and ponied up for a 90 minute massage today. Holy fuck. She couldn't believe I was even able to walk with how tight and unbalanced my back/neck was. My whole right side was locked up. I am at like 75-80% now. Incredible. It's like my neck was so pinched/tight that it was making my nerves in my head messed up or something and causing my right side of my forehead to spasm. That was pulling on my eye or something and thats why having my eyes open made me nauseas. At least that's my theory for now.
good to hear, I hope that is the case for you
WRG how are you feeling now. Back to normal?
Hey thanks for checking in. Feeling about 85ish%. Some fogginess occasionally like randomly forgetting words. Most noticeable was the way it affected my mood. Definitely started to feel in the dumps for a while, but that could have just been not getting enough exercise for a couple months.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_B
Neck/back is definitely still fucked. I'm overdue for another 90 minute massage.
For some reason the universe has decided I need to take some lumps. So I'm pretty familiar with this shit. As with broken hearts, time is the only answer for concussions. There will come a day when you say something like, wow, I was in a fog back then. That's when you know you've recovered.
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I think, interestingly, the processes are very similar...some external stimulus interfering with the normal process of your nerves and synapses.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
In one case it’s this huge emotional disruption of patterns where all signs thst once pointed to happiness now route to sensations of loneliness and failure and disappointment and anger...and it takes lots of time for those synaptic connections to weaken and reform so you feel normal.
In the other case it’s physical damage to the structures themselves followed by loss of memory and confusion and disappointment at whatever happened, sometimes anger, and painful associations with other related injuries...and it takes lots of time for the physical brain damage to resolve and all the connections to reform so things feel normal.
You got nailed right in the fucking head! right in the fucking mind!
Bumping this back up. I gave myself a pretty bad one about three months ago and am having a pretty rough time, particularly with work, which is on a computer and very visual (gis/remote sensing). How did you all with longer term issues navigate? I’m too young to retire, but literally can’t do my job without getting nauseous, dizzy, and inducing the tuning-fork brain. A lot of my issues are related to my eyes. I’ve been doing PT to incrementally introduce exercise, and vision therapy which has been quite helpful with getting my brain and eyes working together - still a long way to go there, and speech therapy which has been completely useless. Cognitively I’m doing pretty well, but I get tired quickly and once that happens I’m pretty foggy. My sense is that this is an energy problem and I want to explore body energy but have no idea what/how.
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i have a software that yellows and dims my computer screen that helps some. its called flux. i'm 3 years out from my last concussion and still deal with tiredness daily. hbot and lens both helped some but the effects waned a few months after finishing treatment.
I’ve heard there is some evidence that Creatinine supplementation can potentially help in recovery post head injury. I’m not familiar with the studies so can’t comment on the strength of that evidence. But something to look into if you’re interested in doing everything possible - creatine is cheap. Don’t do the whole “loading” phase - just take 5 grams daily from the start.
Also I’ve heard of some post concussion sufferers taking very low dose anti-motion sickness meds when they need to do something that induces nausea (like computer work) - it’s gonna be a balance between the anti-nausea benefits and the sedative side effect so everyone’s dose is going to be different. But something to consider when you can’t help it and you have to bang out some computer work for example.