Star Trek: Picard

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

Although I'm not much of a voyager guy.

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Well, you're missing out then, my friend! Once the writers finally stopped giving Neelix any attention, the show got way better. I just couldn't get into it when it came out, but when I finally gave it a real shot a few years back and binged them all, I ended up really liking it a lot! Same thing went for DS9. Hated it when it came out so bailed after the first season. Loved it when I revisited it, survived through the boooooring first couple of seasons, but it really paid off later on.

Seems to be a real trend with Star Trek. It's like it takes the writers a couple season to finally find their groove.

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

Huh? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_of_Nine

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Well F me inside out; you are absolutely correct! I need to watch Voyager from the beginning - thank you!!

Austin:
Ds9 from season 3 on is one of my favorites. Might have to get into voyager post neelix. Thanks for the heads up.

OK, shit's getting good.

Agreed.

No. I have to disagree. This has devolved into some weird sci-fi formerly known as star trek. And what about those bad attempts at humor? Nearly every character annoys me. And of course the weird druggy ex Picard friend has a lost son and everybody is a broken character. And there is a conspiracy, of course. It's not yet discovery bad, but it's getting there.

I won't start with that the whole galaxy has gone down the drain in 20 years thing. I don't know whether that's supposed to be a usa anology or not but it just doesn't make sense universe wise coming from tng, ds9, or voyager.

The only good moments were Picards borg flashbacks.
And what about the ultraviolence with the eye? Just out of context. And about thee levels above the rest of the show.

Hey, listen, buddy......this is the first Star Trek I think I've ever seen where they throw 'FUCK' around so casually in convo.
I really feel at home.

:):):):):)

Last two episodes have been better. Away from satire back into better TV terrain. Still not star trek.

Fuck you guys and your expectations. I like this show - it's really good. Like "Logan" vis-a-vis the X-men world, just not as dark. How many of you have given shrift to alternative story arcs in other stories? I think this one is worthy.

Agree.
Went back to re-learn 7 of 9's origin story cuz imma gomer with failing memory syndrome - it was really painful to watch due to pretty much everything ( acting, dialogue, plot, etc.). Picard is Emmy-worthy compared to the old shit.

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Originally Posted by Tippster

Fuck you guys and your expectations. I like this show - it's really good. Like "Logan" vis-a-vis the X-men world, just not as dark. How many of you have given shrift to alternative story arcs in other stories? I think this one is worthy.

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No need to get cantankerous, Tipp. Gets better all the time. Please don't tell me it's a ten episode per year series.

Finished binge watching the first season last night.
Like a lot of people, I think it did start kind of slowly but picked way up in the back half. Shit really got good once they got to the artifact. And by the end I do really think it embodied the spirit of Star Trek with the ending not being some huge battle but based on individual choices by a few people to pick the right path.
I really look forward to what this show will bring. I hope they build this into a broader exploration of the nature of life and consciousness and what is "artificial". Also looking forward to the supposed return of Guinan. And hopefully SevenOfNine and Raffi bumping fuzzies. I totally could see Seven getting all Domme on her. Borg chicks are into that.

Was hoping that resurrected JL would have some wicked golumy, automaton body/sleeve with major upgrades, but was mildly disappointed.

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Originally Posted by PB

Was hoping that resurrected JL would have some wicked golumy, automaton body/sleeve with major upgrades, but was mildly disappointed.

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I think we can count on him to possess some unexpected new qualities.


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But then he'll be riddled with guilt/angst over being no longer truly human :nonono2:

As predictable as the ending was I was happy with JL being the given a second chance considering he was an advocate for Data and automaton rights
The irony was perfect
Riker heading up the calvary was too cool
Can't wait till nest season

So, there will be a next season??? Sources?

Already renewed for two more seasons. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...access-1268720

I’m sure Covid has messed up all production though.

After the good beginning and the travesty of middle episodes the end was OK. But hippie new age Androids and space flowers?

The only really good star trek moment was ryker commanding the star fleet armada.

Most of Picards crew still annoy me.

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Originally Posted by LegoSkier

Already renewed for two more seasons. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...access-1268720

I’m sure Covid has messed up all production though.

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Outstanding!

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Originally Posted by LegoSkier

Already renewed for two more seasons. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...access-1268720

I’m sure Covid has messed up all production though.

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Outstanding!

Reminder that Lower Decks premieres on Thursday :yourock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RkBKedKWw

I just glanced at the thread I did not have the correct media to see it when it came out

I bought season one today. Currently watching episode 4

Hope it gets good

Not a huge fan of the back and forth past present

Picard season 2 was....ugh. Felt bad for the cast.

Agree; it completely went into the toilet for season 2. Couldn’t finish it.

it might have gotten too nostalgic in season 2 but so far season 3 has taken the fuck off right outta the gate.
...with some some more nostalgia but lots of action.

Haven't watched any of this but have seen a couple snippet previews and have to ask, didn't Data get blowd up at the end of Nemesis?

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Originally Posted by HellgateBasement

Reminder that Lower Decks premieres on Thursday :yourock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RkBKedKWw

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Started this since I'm paying for paramount+ right now. Rick and Morty meets Star Trek. I like it.

Season 3 is surprisingly good.

S3 finale headed to IMAX:
https://collider.com/star-trek-picar...ax-screenings/

For those watching season 3, can I skip season 2 in its entireity, or is there a decent recap that would get me up to speed? I watched season 1 and it was meh, but the season 3 hype sounds real.

Season 2 is very meh. It's totally unrelated to three and you know the one character that's not from tng or voyager already. Skip that crap and get ridof picards annoyibg Crewfrom season 1.

The time gap is a bit bigger, but that's it. You get used to everyone in their new Positions within the first 10min.

And yeah season 3 is some of the best trek I've seen in my life. Miles ahead of any recent Star trek.

Yeah skip 2, it was total garbage. I lost interest, abandoned it, and came back to it while awaiting for S3 episodes to release week to week, and it still felt like drudgery.

3 has been alright, but some serious fan service in this Vox episode, I’ll hold off on saying further for now.

Fan Service is ok if it still feels like a Star trek series and not as a means to an end.

And season 3 has been real Star trek as far as I remember tng ds9 and voyager, but I've never been a hardcore trekki. ( well I had a Uniform in grades 11 to 13 as a carnival costume......)

How is there only 1 episode left? Has been an awesome season, agree with others that 1 & 2 are meh.

If you've been on the sidelines for this whole thing so far, could you skip S1&S2 completely?

^^^yes. But I would still watch them because I'm a super fan.

Highly recommend Strange New Worlds.

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Originally Posted by 406

How is there only 1 episode left? Has been an awesome season, agree with others that 1 & 2 are meh.

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Picard S1 was ok, I enjoyed it. S2 was horrendous and skippable. S3 has made up for it.

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

And yeah season 3 is some of the best trek I've seen in my life. Miles ahead of any recent Star trek.

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It's good but I think it's relying heavily on TNG nostalgia. The story is creative and entertaining but it's bringing in so many old elements that it's more like a master DJ playing a set that can't lose.

Disagree on recent Trek being miles behind. I have enjoyed Disco and SNW despite what seems like an above-average effort to inject wokening. The Disco S3/4 have some cool imaginative stuff. And as much as I like Michelle Yeoh I do not like her in Star Trek.

Strange new world is excluded. I've only seen a few episodes but it seems really good.

By recent I meant discovery and all the series I haven't watched like enterprise ( I think? I don'tkniw whst else was there in the late 200s and 2010s).
Discovery is bad on somany levels. I don't know where to start.
And diverse is not a problem see expanse.