I’m guessing they’re playing to the crowd that says Din 13 isn’t enough.
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I’m guessing they’re playing to the crowd that says Din 13 isn’t enough.
Looks like a beast 16 and shift fucked.
Yeah definitely looks like it more going after the big guy (of thinks they are)/ CAST crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
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Originally Posted by nyskirat
I’m excited to see how many CrossFit dudes buy these from REI because they’re “going to go so huge this winter”.
They way they’re phrasing things I think this is going to be the new ‘duke.’ Maybe it will even work with standard alpine boots given how that toe piece looks like it’s gonna envelope your boots. Appears to be standard jester type heel on it as well.
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Guessing will be a limited mid season release this year, given marketing launch is in November?
There's no way if the toe and heel pieces aren't connectedQuote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
I was thinking if somehow the toe piece clamped the boot’s toe protrusion from top to bottom and left to right. But on further thought there’d really be no way to do that securely enough without damaging the boot from the clamp forces required
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Looks to me like it will use a tech toe to connect when touring - the front of the binding on the silhouette shot looks like a lever as used on other tech bindings. How they would integrate that with an alpine looking toe is intriguing.
My speculation based on that picture would be the silver lever is the tech toe and that the alpine part of the toe piece will be removable a la CAST, but with an actual IOS 9523 certified binding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky
My money's still on Shift-style convertible toe. But they look WAY heavier.
What is a CAST rip-off?
Push lever down, slide toe back. Skin to top and Reset toe.
Would be shocked if it’s removable toe on a commercial product like this from Marker. It has to be Shift like in operation.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
from my POV that looks a lot like Pindung with this silver lever that pulls pins in and out. Not sure how heel lifters are made but I'd say that at this picture binding is transformed to alpine mode and ready to be skied.
Precisely what they are calling it. Press launch is tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
Announcing the royalty package they have planned for Lars?Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
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https://www.skipass.com/news/195166-...n-duke-pt.html
Lots of pics and specs
wtf is happening with "alpine" hood when switching to tour mode? you just take it off? didn't get it
One in DIN 4-12 , 850 g by fixing in mounted mode (1090 g in downhill mode) to 549 € ,
- The other in DIN 6-16 , 1000g by fixing in mounted mode (1280 g in downhill mode) to 599 € .
Other features: lockable multifunctional brake, 10 ° climbing wedge activated by the stick, height of the shoe 27 mm.
That's what it looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk
Seems like the Shift and CAST system fucked and had a retarded baby.
Yep, put em in yer pocket, or wherever...Quote:
Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk
Tour mode:
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https://www.marker.net/en/time-for-the-reset/
It shows a nice lil video there.
Stand by my CAST/Shift baby comparison even more now.
Lots more moving parts than CAST, wonder how that'll do in cold weather or wet snow.
First impression is if I'm going to have to throw a toe piece in my pack then I think I'd rather just go CAST. I'm trying to be nice here cause these guys clearly worked their ass off building something to compete with the Shift. But 3 DIN just ain't worth the weight + fiddle factor + dealing with an untested "Marker" binding.
Ok, expected more of a shift like device. This is... interesting for sure. Just hope they tested for snow clearing, cause reassembling that toe piece looks like a nightmare, but I hope to be wrong.
Anything on mounting patterns yet?
Gaper marketing pic; tongues out for touring :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SoooL
me no like
Looks like fiddle factor is 10/10. Is there only one attachment point to hold the alpine toe piece down? That concerns me out of the gate - I suspect ice buildup in that latch could cause problems (definitely can see myself thinking it is locked in but actually isn't?). It does say "16" on it though...
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That link says 4 point self lockingQuote:
Originally Posted by thefortrees
This is the binding for marker sponsored athletes and people who ski in bounds 99% of the time but ‘might want to try touring’ and don’t know about Cast.
AAA rated GSA bait.
Website says locks down in four places.
fiddle factor looks to be right in with Shift/Cast. Uphill weight is 100g heavier than a shift and right in line with CAST uphill weight. Overall weight is less than CAST. Could be a good option for someone who wants more retention than a shift but doesn’t want to have to rebuild/risk their bindings with CAST, or don’t know about it. The vast majority of skiers continue to get their hardgoods from retail outlets who won’t carry CAST. Plenty of Big Race Dads who have been using Jesters/Dukes for a decade will be all over this.
Personally I think the MDV photos are really interesting for a variety of reasons.
Reminds me of a transformer movie
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Looks like forward pressure from the heel engages the primary latch hook.
Personal opinion.
Gotta give Marker some creds for putting together a Shift/Cast competitor.
They got rid of the heal lever mechanism from the Kingpin, and the toe pins are shifted forward. That just removed a breaking point from the kingpin style heel.
Any idea on price?
These things are more confusing than vaginas
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Interesting...
Patiently waiting for year two, post-consumer use warranty cycle generation.
If it's a short quick and easy walk to the top (beyond a boot pack), there are a lot of times I won't bother removing the tongues, I just throw it in walk mode, undo the power strap and top buckle.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
Marker site shows how it works a bit better. Connects at the front, then rotates back with the pins locking in the side as well as that latch.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefortrees
So the people that are buying these things and shifts are the ones in the (side) backcountry now?
I’m glad I got too old and fat to be out there now.
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Truth & I do the same, yet if you are pushing a tour sled, look like you're really getting after it Marker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACH