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People have said Ogden is neutral on the scale. Various media pushes would point to negative Ogdens. I don't know if there's been some exodus of sketchy people or what.
I guess the real question for me is this:
Is everything more expensive because it's nicer now, or because the whole scale has slid upward? Is your whole block going to be full of cholos giving you the mean eye if you buy a house for 150K somewhere? Or did they all just vacate Utah entirely...or move to Tooele or something?
Ogden ain't what it was, ask md9, zzz, trescow.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Yes, there are still some trashy parts, like Adams between 23rd and 30th, but there's decent, affordable neighborhoods too and it's on the rise. It's typical of urban renewal at the start: opportunity.
Yeah, ok so I'm a fucking broken record.
I guess I’ll go and see it for myself this winter.
I can’t imagine my wife ever wanting to live in Ogden Utah. Salt Lake has a city full of stuff for her to offset it being Utah. Ogden is all the Utah with none of the good parts of living in a major city.
It’s been a tough week here, I hate living in Michigan, I hate my job, I miss my life in Utah, but I can’t go back in time, and we’re so dug in here. I’m reminded of a time when I was like 17 years old, free climbing this cliff, and I just got stuck and spent hours unable to go up or down and it just got worse and worse the more I thought about it. Can’t stay here, can’t move...etc.
if the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will
There's high speed rail between Ogden & SLC. Again, talk to md9, moe, they take the train down to SLC to see shows & do stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Try, it's there, it's not perfect twinkly wah h00, but there's some opportunity there. C'mon, does Ogden really offer that much less than Marquette?
I know I should shut up, but I just can't sit here and listen to that.
Ogden has has Snowbasin for me.... wife loses a lot: good job, living near the water, living in a super bike friendly town on a bike path...her garden, etc. I can’t see that working out. It’s all processing I suppose...
Lotta people talk shit on Rose Park, but you can find decent homes for cheap and it’s not near as bad as people think. Close to freeways, downtown and about 40 minutes to any cottonwood resort. If I didn’t have kids I wouldn’t mind living there, but I hear the schools are pretty shitty.
Show her the fruit orchards
Show her the Ogden river and Willard bay and Pineview
Show her the reglr folk biking all over the place
Show her your friends, your inspirations
Show her the hope and light in your eyes.
Stop defeating yourself, jeez.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
There's the huDge Pineview reservoir 15 minute drive from downtown, good public access to the Ogden river. Lots of people have beautiful gardens there, it's mostly flat so good biking around town plus a ton of great mtb in the hills. The paddleboarding on the reservoir 30 mintes away has beautiful cliffs and swimming areas.
Again, you're going to have a hard time convincing me Marquette is that much better. If your place is close to Superior, that would be nice, but Ogden has a lot better growing season.
Can I put you in touch with md9 & moe? Salt of the earth, super great folks. You remember Trescow, right?
Just saw this.
It would be great to see a mini / BBI18 in Utah again.
It would be great to See Yetiman back in Utah for a ski vacation.
GEEZ a ski trip starts coming together and your shopping real estate?
Life does have it's twists and turns. I now spend my days trying to get my blood sugar under 200 Sumtin. Weigh 165 pounds and my big physical challenges are things like waking up in the morning to sit at my computer and work - Still employed.
Anyway I might even find the motivation to rally for a Utah BBI18 - If I still ski? Not sure at this point
^ rally. we'll get you up there.
Thanks for that. One if my best shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyeaster
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my best bud was there. i had tickets for the third decadenal field trip.
Buster, if your current gig doesn't work out, you could be contract work for the Ogden Chamber of Commerce or be the "Skiing Rick Steeves". You are making me want to move to Ogden. I've spend quite a bit of time in the Wasatch Front over the last 25 years and have seen it go from the place that everyone wants to move to to the place a lot of people want to leave. No different that anywhere else in the mountain west. The one thing that has always stood out, economically, is that white collar 9-5 jobs pay OK but anything other than that pays dog shit it seems. I could be wrong but seems like that metro has a bunch of $15/hr jobs and not much else.
It's a rare chance to bring my wife to see that area, the point would be to assess moving....if moving isn't feasible, there isn't a lot of point to dragging her along. It's pretty shocking to see that the only parts of the front I could afford to move, maybe, if we really buckled down and saved for a few years, would be places where the tongan crip gang used to shoot everything up with machine guns and you'd see metro gang unit cars driving around.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
For ur A1C:
https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Bacon-Don.../dp/0761180540
I think I still have Tresckow's number. We just lost touch because...you know, different worlds. And I've had extended phases of needing to just not torture myself with looking at skiing stuff from Utah and fire season sit reports and all that stuff because it exacerbates my discomfort and depression with my current life where I have nothing to do with any of it. I had real reservations about skiing here because it's just a whole can of worms.
yeti. / i-as --
I urge you not to over-think this -- :
there is value in your wife seeing you among friends, and seeing you, ,,, in a place that holds great meaning to You ! (!!)
IF either of you ( especially, your wife ) feel like you are "dragging her along" , I further urge you to reassess the trip...
( I would offer that it is important (that) you can find enjoyment along the way - And travel reasonably well together.
( I have been following your ( stoke and Stuff ) a reasonably long time, and I did not perceive this is Not the case. … )
I know some of your (Stuff) ain't light , but I would really hope and wish that this trip,,, could Be a joyful rememberance, Not a stressful wonder of the future...
YOU have given some of us here encouragement by the life you live - that includes [ keeping on ] when you are hurting, no longer skiing 100+ days, and cope-ing with depression...
I have been going to montana in March to see that there is also beauty in living on the U.p.
( I won't be trading (Lake) Superior for the reservoirs of the west. . . )
I'll make you this pledge :
keep pedaling ; I will meet You and your wife for lunch on March 16th at Soli, or Snowbasin, or PowMtn ( haven't been there - Oh, yeah (yes) , I was : Dad and I drove by in 1988.
I forgot about that. )
… you choose --
hang in ; Carry On ! - and Thank you...
You are an inspiration (!)
tj ( from 'the west end' )
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FKNA.
Consider this one of those rare opportunities...Occasionally, a door just opens up for you. What do you do?
Looking forward to meeting you, IAS.
What field is your wife in? Job market is strong here. What do u want to do? Look forward to skiing with u and meeting up.
No pressure. Take the trip, bring the wife along. Enjoy the skiing, make new friends, treat it as a vacation.
^^^ This ^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by thefortrees
She manages a corporate retail outlet. She's been a regional manager of the year a bunch of years running and her two way relationship with the company is very good, she loves it, it loves her...etc. There were, or maybe are, promotional opportunities that would involve moving to Milwaukee or Minneapolis or something like that. She enjoys our life here. We're close to the beach, little house, etc. She really doesn't want to leave the company, and her gut reaction to Utah, as a whole, is familiar to me....it was mine before I had life experiences pushing me to go there against my instincts. So I've felt like I want her to see it the way I did, that may not be possible in a short period of time....I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by whyturn
Anyway, yeah, we should go. We've never really done a vacation because the entire time we've been together it's kind of one of us working or lack of money or dog logistics....all that stuff.
basket case. Wear your helmets everybody....being a scramble head is hard.
ditto --Quote:
Originally Posted by thefortrees
Bump.
bump back at ya with props to get outside and telefreewasatch
and a couple hundy more in the kitty
stoked 2 share sums iistrategies smiles soon
Thanks man. Plans are coming together.
^^^^Any bumps in the road, Yetiman? How can I hep?
You still plan on driving? Mag beds/couches along the way could be rad...
youre welcome to stay here, get a nice place alone somewhere
or the icecrib (given mrs ices blessing):wink:
sheldon says latters a watershed and if the furkid comes he has to stay here and be his puppy friend
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...psqae6kl8p.jpg
Bump for the last time... closing the fund to new donations after this week.
Any new year resolutionaries out there with a couple coins to toss?
dogs aren't allowed in Big Cottonwood Canyon or Little Cottonwood Canyon, even in your car afaik, so you can't bring them to Solitude/Alta/Bird/etc just fyi. no clue on dog-friendly hotels in the area though there are a zillion hotels so I'm sure there's something. there is a fair amount of dog-friendly touring if you're willing to get out of the Cottonwoods though. also a lot of dog daycare type things, though be warned they'll want records of vaccines which might be a problem for you PNWers :fm: and some places will want an "interview" first (though at Camp Bow Wow at least the "interview" day is just a free day of daycare)
Donated. Hope ya make it there man.
awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
Campaign is closed. Thank you to all donors!
$1820 was raised.
hes home safe and as sound as evars
bless all of you
who made this blessing
happen
:yourock:
For the record, if you guys had put this in the right forum, and I had seen it in time, I might have contributed. Maybe.
very nice
icemanselectivereadsinjeansQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
and you did contribute to his enjoyment of his SKIING trip
on slope and off
Yes, the whole thing was a total dream come true.
Thanks to all of you who contributed money and offers to stay with you and skiing and partying and lending me gear...it was an avalanche of love and I appreciate it so much.
One of my favorite parts of the whole thing is/was just being in the presence of iconic guys like Iceman and Splat and Djongo and Flowing Alpy and SFB and BobMc....Older brothers. I have to take better care of myself because I want to be like you guys in 15 years. I want to be like you guys right now, but I want to still be like you moving indefinitely forward.
It was good to check a series of memories....
"Steep" is steeper than I remembered...
The High T is more brutal than I remembered
Wildcat remains hidden in plain view
Everywhere we skied I was finding myself enjoying skiing I wrote off when I lived there. I don't know wtf that was all about....Utah has a hell of a lot of skiing.
My old neighborhood is as skeezy as it ever was, even with 3x the property values. I feel like it may have gained an Ogden.
Speaking of which:
I'm rating Ogden at 1 Ogden....It could be zero Ogdens, it's trying. Maybe it's zero.
I'm also rating Carter Lake Iowa (Omaha) 3 Ogdens.
Green Bay: 0 Ogdens
Solitude -9 Ogdens.
Laramie Wyoming -1 Ogden.
Galena IL -2 Ogdens
It was fun to spend time in the valley with all the Husky Latin Women.
Norseman really stood out in the ripper dept.
If any of the scouts read my emails, we'll never see sirvicsmasher again because he'll be playing for the Canucks next year.
Iceman will need to write his book on The Wheel, because there isn't enough time in the day to explain it in conversation form.
Brock Landers is such a boss I'm just glad he didn't write me up. He handled being dragged to The Best Worst Mexican Restaurant in Salt Lake City like a champion.
All you guys, so many more of you....just being around normal skiers for a few days charges my batteries.
Thank you all so very much.
This thread rules
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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
: ) Thank you, -J (!) tj
Hey, my friend, thanks for including me with the old Lions. Those guys have a ton of mileage on me here at the trg'z. I hope to be able to pull my weight with the Bosses. And everyone for that matter.
And FWIW, I feel that I have found my lost tribe here. Most I like, one or two not as much, and a few who are plainly from the same gene pool.
IAS - I would be psyched to have you as a guest of the Teton Mags. Anytime, this summer, next winter, whenever.