Wouldn't a lift like that be checked regularly by the State? Those guard rails aren't even up to code and the platform is made up of thin aspen logs [emoji15]
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Wouldn't a lift like that be checked regularly by the State? Those guard rails aren't even up to code and the platform is made up of thin aspen logs [emoji15]
Brills and others worked super hard to build that place. And it is amazing things have gone as well as they have safety wise. I know they've pissed some people off...
I've had hellaciously good times there, so much so I complained bitterly when (winter) unguided went away and prices rose because it meant I couldn't play.
It would be a shame to see it go under. It would be a shame for skiers, a shame for Silverton, and a shame for all those that made the place what it is.
Mistakes were made and they cost a lady her independence, mobility, and so much more.
It is a shame what that lady has to go through the rest of her life.
I hope insurance makes things as good as can be for her and that Silverton Mountain lives.
This sums up my thoughts on it perfectly. I love the raw feel of this place and desperately hope they have enough insurance in place to weather this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
It reminds me of skiing at La Grave - the mid mountain loading station, the shitty infrastructure, shots at the top station way after the téléphérique shut down. That said, getting off the lift at Silverton with your pack on one hand and your poles in the other is usually the crux of the run....Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
Sounds fucking sick broQuote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
I gotta hit it
Come here and make it off chair 2 before talking shit. I offered you a ride from the airport if needed. Take it and don't be a bitchQuote:
Originally Posted by digitaldeath
You live near Silverton nowQuote:
Originally Posted by abraham
No chair exists that I can't ski
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seattle bro
come hit some green insteada them CI’s
CODS
Nope still in the pnw. Come ski here. Prove yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by digitaldeath
The kids get to ride the upper chair once they surpass 3/10. Can you hang?
Definitely similarities with LG in that kind of vibeQuote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
Descending LG by headlamp after the big bottle of genepe passed around is interesting
Ok now I am jonesing for LG
since I know lots about insurance I'll tell you what I think, but most of my insurance knowledge is limited to making sure someone pays the bill every month
they have a liability policy but it's capped on how much it will pay out, ie if I cause bodily damage to someone my policy will only pay out 1 million bucks
so insurance will pay, but someone else will have to come up with the rest, the owners have no say in anything, the insurance company will make all the decisions for them with their lawyers
Their rates will then go through the roof after the settlement, that's if anyone will insure them after the case is settled, most insurance companies will settle out of court and as fast as they can, twenty years ago they used to hem and haw about paying and would fight anything, these days they write a check and have people sign away their rights to make any claims against the defendant quickly
so you're a a paid thug? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fastfred
that's handy to know we've gots one of those around here
So yeah pretty much how insurance works for everyone and everything. Thanks for the knowledge extremely enlightening.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastfred
What we don't know is what their cap and if they have extended their policies in any way to protect themselves.
That download ramp is scary period. They wanted people to walk down that? Even with the chair stopped that would be dicey. Build an effin snowbank to the side and cut some snow stairs into it. Better just don't do scenic tours.
Would be a shame if a stupid marketing decision closes a resort like this.
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Hope they survive the litigation, Silverton has a lot of radness and is unique.
The unload is pretty tame compared to some of the fixed grip chairs I grew up riding as a kid, but if you are going to allow foot traffic then there really should have been a little more awareness on their part.
I'd say it's unlikely Silverton has a policy that has a lower cap for bodily injury as compared to some other type of liability; injury resulting in paralysis is one of the highest-exposure risks of running a ski resort.
You guys are pussies. That's not that bad. It offloads directly at an uphill wall of snow and the chair runs slow as fuck. I've always seen a lift op working the top and standing on the platform to the left. I've seen offload ramps at Mt Baker that are steeper and worse than that. Sure, maybe it's not a Vail style lift where it comes to a goddamned stop before you gently stand up and scoot away. But it's not that that fucking hairy.
This place is getting soft.
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...066970&thumb=1
This, and I hope for the best for the women as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
And, g-bus, no shit.Quote:
The unload is pretty tame compared to some of the fixed grip chairs I grew up riding as a kid, but if you are going to allow foot traffic then there really should have been a little more awareness on their part.
The old school baker lift ramps early season come to mind.
Freudian slip?Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
surprise this hasn't been resolved out of court, though it still could be.
but if a judgement against the ski area occurs, its very doubtful it would cause the current owner to go under. even if it did, its not like the ski area would sit idle or go away forever.
Brill would probably just have to sell a couple of Bentleys, his Mediterranean sail boat and the Monte Carlo condo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic Suncloud
Maybe if they went under someone else could buy it out of bankruptcy and put some more cash into it and run it unguided all season.
We need Bunny's take on the ramp quality
Word - I was expecting more “Bunny Profane can’t load a chairlift “ commentary . This is an absolute layup for that shit.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...5FxlFklotL1iSAQuote:
Originally Posted by Soups
For the Brills this may be a blessing in disguise. I remember an article on them in a Denver newspaper (I think Denver) and Aaron was quoted saying that he didn't think he would do it all over again if given the choice. Maybe this will be a reason to call it quits and move on to new adventures? I imagine that after 15-20 years of running a small ski operation that is probably not very profitable you might see that said ski area like a ball and chain or prison sentence. Maybe not?
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Originally Posted by PNWbrit
These things. Dayum. Perhaps I better get down there. If shit does hit the fan down there, could this really sink them?Quote:
Originally Posted by skinewhere
Would insurance kick in and they survive? Timeline for litigation settlement? Will they be open next year? I though I remembered reading that they only had limited self guiding days available, anyone know off the top of their head when these are?
So many questions... I know.
It's a good article :Quote:
Originally Posted by raisingarizona13
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/03/18...d-do-it-again/
I bet Petrick has been a huge help and might be exactly what they need.
Timeline for settlement could literally be anything between tomorrow and 5-10 years from now.
Read that the other day. Good article but way too much hyperbole.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile
It would be crazy if they were to go under seeing all the work they put in, especially when you consider they could've fixed the ramp with a few hundred dollars in supplies available at any hardware store that would take a day or less of manual labor.
Amazing article... Glad they've been able to keep it going since then.
HA!Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
It certainly keeps him occupied when it is too dark to to heliguiding in AK midwinterQuote:
Originally Posted by raisingarizona13
I thought the ex-K2 guys was handling operations now
Could be... I'm no insider on that
Read the article linked a few post back....Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
Yeah, I read that article a year and a half ago when it came out:Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Like I said: "This season, the Brills surprised the resort industry when they hired Tim Petrick, the chief executive of K2 Sports and the former chief of Rossignol. They had been consulting with Petrick to find an executive who could help ease pressure on the overworked couple when he volunteered himself for the chief operating officer job, moving with his wife to Silverton from Seattle. "
We live in an age where if you have a business you better be sure to cross every damn T and dot every single i especially with insurance ... this is not Europe and if a lawyer can find a loop hole to make money they will...Silverton is on the list so i hope they weather the storm. Vibes to the lady and her future,,,,,,
FWIW: I know him personally, he is very sharp and driven and his qualifications in this area are solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
My point was that someone was painting a picture of the Brills not being able to keep up with operations anymore and I pointed out that they hired your buddy to run the show over a year ago. Not saying that he's not capable, probably much more capable than the Brills.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACH