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I don't BC anymore so....maybe BC skiing improves some aspects of your personal skill sets. It's obvious that more mileage improves your skiing. Unless you don't have the drive for self-improvement. There's alot of folks that are happy at their present ability. Nothing wrong with that. At my advanced age technique becomes very important. That and alittle common sense.
Any decline in skiing ability due to less days at the resort can be offset by posting more on TGR.
i need a sponsor. i'm sure i'm top 50% of 50 year olds who started riding 12 years ago.
and that's BEFORE posting here
We’ll soon find out +/-$37
You're most certainly not "right". Not sure exactly what's wrong with you, but you ain't right.....brah. Maybe It's all that acid you continue to drop well into your 50s. Fried out aging hipsters. They're amusing until they're suddenly not. Proven brain damage over time guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
BTW, do you ski tour or are you just here to be a cunt?
Sliding down hill is one aspect of bc skiing. If you start at the resort and learn that, you can then move on and continue to learn, on a steeper curve, all the other aspects of being out in the BC and traveling in mtns on skis. It's a much deeper hobby in terms of skill development and personal growth in my experience. In addition, you will learn so much more terrain. After several years you will look around and realize you know your surroundings on a much more intimate level, and become more attached to the mtns you consider home.
Ya you do spend a lot of time riding the lift compared to the time skiing, around here on the fixed chair here its at least 3min sitting on yer ass for every 1 minute of skiing while walking up would be 10minutes of walking for every 1 minute of skiingQuote:
Originally Posted by anotherVTskibum
so if you believe in the 10,000 hr rule then touring would make you a better walker and riding the lift would make you a better skier
Ski tour in Vermont, surely you jest?
DaveNJ would shit his pants standing on top of the left gully cornice. Come to NH and let's see you ski something steeper than 24 degrees, you fucking pussy. I've skied the Whites since you were a tit sucking baby in NJ.
Take a Fucking Lap
Ditto x 2. I see lots of back seat driving. Almost over the handle bar buffoonery when alpine tourons get into variable conditions. Not to mention they are messing up my powder. But most of them go uphill way better than me. So, they can have the up skills, and I'll take the downhill skills...Quote:
Originally Posted by kalisto
One of the big ideas percolating to the surface here is that a combination of hill and touring is ideal. I'm probably 65% hill and 35% touring right now. That's kind of what my life affords me (full time job, little kids at home etc.). In an ideal world I'd probably closer to 50 / 50. My question to the proponents of the combo approach (hill and touring combined as optimum for ski ability), what do you think would be the ideal combination in percentage terms?
You're a citiot right (respectfully)? Most of the people in Whistler get out and rip around no matter what barring trashbag days and even then. Wife and I really enjoy ripping around and epic-ski'ing groomers. And we see lots of friends doing the same. Best thing is that carving skis with their triple layers of metal and shapes that don't change that much are still really fun even when 6 - 7 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by raypruit
#southcoasttouring #millenials #vanlife #community #beatersQuote:
Originally Posted by gramboh
Well in the back country skiing beaters defense they can be a really good indicator for slope stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by gramboh
To be more serious though I agree, people should be pretty strong resort skiers before they get into touring. Imagine if things head south and you have an extremely poor skier trying to do a rescue and navigate terrain, throw in some weather and things are probably not going to go very well.
Yeah, I'm glad the west doesn't have any of ^that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveVt
Lift-access days via a season pass are a cherished time. If I had to ride chairs on a powder day with some of the beaters I have toured with over the years, I would go be going full-stealth and be even more of an asshole. To answer the ideal combo, minimal touring and lots of powder by chair-bumps during daily operations and touring after chairs until June.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parkng
So by page 4 it's either a name-calling feud that leaked out of ECRC, or a dick-measuring contest of how "core" we are by how much we can condescend to anyone who's not us in the backcountry?
idk where you guys ski, but the Wasatch is beater central and yet I don't too often see clueless rubes tomahawking down the Emmas. And even though it's Wasangeles I manage to find my share of snow which hasn't been irreparably tainted by the presence of someone who skis slower than me...
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i think the only way you could be more core than to ski nothing but the BC is to do it tele
and real mutherfucking tele gear
none of this ntn stuff
Pins and leathers you fucking nanciesQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
i suspect i may be a bc clueless rube. overthink, miss the obvious, swallowed whole by some form of snow.
oaken skisQuote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
citiot indeed, and i suppose i'm basing my observation on all my currently citiot friends. but back when some of them were doing the ski bum thing living in resort towns, and based on the one season i did, i feel like ppl get even more picky with their days when they live close to the mtn. although i can't remember if there was any significant difference between riders and skiers.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
to me, the difference is most obvious with smaller mtns. none of my skier friends will even think of skiing cypress, whereas all my rider friends and i have passes.
Or cables!Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Right on!Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
Metal edges are for pussies!Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
Who needs edges at all when you're skiing pow all the time right?
Superloops and my trusty Graffix bong are all I need for fun, safe times in the BC!Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
wait a minute what if we run out of dope?
BACKCOUNTRY ONLY = DECLINE IN SKIING ABILITY?
You will definitely forget a bunch of skiing skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
One skill is called "Glancing backwards before you start skiing switch". This guy probably had that specific skill dialed when he skied inbounds, but obviously his ability declined after he went backcountry (0:56):
https://youtu.be/QliBL-AQiAY?t=56s
Another skill is called "Scouting the landing before you launch blind rollovers". This guy probably did it skillfully back when he skied inbounds, but obviously his ability declined after he went backcountry (0:06):
https://youtu.be/NFllIPchCHc?t=6s
Yet another skill is called "Basic Self-Preservation Instinct & the Competence level of a 6-year-old child to handle the inbounds Skier's Responsibility Code". This guy probably gained false confidence in the backcountry while his ability was actually silently declining, and when he returned to inbounds skiing in this video, that false confidence probably blinded him from seeing that he had become completely incompetent to handle even the simplest responsibilities listed in the inbounds Skier's Responsibility Code (0:44):
https://youtu.be/eK5fAfXh5Uc?t=44s
:)
Ideal percentage would be 40% back country, 60% hill. Based on 130 days per year, and living in a very good place for skiing (both hill and back country).Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parkng
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Originally Posted by Angle Parkng
Optimum for ski ability? Definitely the lift 100%. There is no question about that. You can send it all day and ride a variety of good to shit conditions that will enhance your ability. Again, the EC vs the West on this is very different. The variety of inbounds snow conditions in the West is broader, less the sheer ice of the EC. You can find a variety on the EC, but it's not on the open mapped trails. I'm talking breakable crust, mank, and the likes. I'm also thinking JH where you have 4k vert where the weather is very different from base to summit.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyfromterrace
I don't know how many go 100% in the BC, but I tone it way down and am overly cautious the majority of the time unless it's meadow skipping. It's a completely different skill set, but I believe (like the others here) you need to have the fundamentals of all the terrain and snow conditions down by riding a lift and then use those skills when you encounter the shite conditions in the BC as the cavalry is not going to show up to get your arse down.
AP, with a full time job and kids at home, I think the proper answer is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parkng
Any Time on Skis You Can Get
This, along with other comments in this thread about bad technique, skiers tommahawking, leaving bomb holes, etc. raises an interesting question that's probably a good topic for the slide zone - that of partner selection and how much force their skiing style exerts on s potentially tender snowpack.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Alternatively, this could be looked at as terrain selection based not only on partner's skiing ability, but style as well as snowpack condition.
I've been around a lot of good athletes who charge hatder than me but who (when skiing at the same speed) exert a lot more force on the snowpack.
And yes, downhill skiing skills vs. mountain skills are two different things. I won't pretend that I have as much of the latter as the former. I've seen this play out with climbers who start out in the gym and who trivialize their move outdoors into a mountain environment.
Yes to the "X" hours rule, but I don't know if it's universally 10k for all skills, and paying attention while you're learning counts for a lot.
... Thom
I want to say that one of those musical bumps slides last winter was caused by someone beatering in the middle of a start zone. I think it was the group of 12 incident where they had no clue what slope they were on top of, and were then butthurt about "bullying" negative responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Can't make this shit up.
Well, maybe less avoidable back east. Maybe not, never skied west of Whiteface.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
As an intermediate skier currently skiing bc probably 90% of the time, I am working at overcoming my bias against on piste skiing to become more proficient and , at age 66, plan for the day that bc is too much for me physically.
XC skiQuote:
Originally Posted by LHutz Esq
Oh that is sad..Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSteve
Is there a non-profit or a go fund me page I can send money to? Xc is an awful affliction I wouldn’t wish on anyone. #vibes.
I kid, I kid - I was a fairly serious xc racer 20 years and 20 lbs ago. Still trying to get out a couple nights a week. I still love it. We have trails up here you can take the dog on. Best exercise old farts like me can get.
if I'm ridin lifts I just ride hard, it doesnt matter whom I pick for a pardner on the down, sometimes on the up I foist myself on a different person every cycle, meet interesting people on the chair ... I have even sold realestate during that 15 minute rideQuote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
lota bushit on this thread, people trying to justify why they don't have a pass and avoiding the original question which is
do yer "point em down the hill" skiing skills get rusty if you ski less because you are busy wanking
er i mean walking ?
Isn't thread drift the norm with these threads ;-)
On topic ... I had to take quite a few years off due to weird life choices.
When I got back, I didn't skip a beat, so I don't see why this would be any different from a change to one's touring/lift riding % would be, apart from activity specific conditioning issues. We get that conditioning shift at the beginning of each season as well and no one thinks twice about this.
... Thom
which possibly begs the question what is the difference between a little thread drift and the pure bulshit ?
Lil thread drift is hard to smell? Idk
there are many very important ski skills you will never learn in a ski areaQuote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Can't fertilize a field with thread drift?Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch