The land maintenance, non-chainsaw thread

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Originally Posted by steff

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Oh hey now, the party has officially started!


We have an Aebi TT90 with a sick 6' Seppi hammer knife flail on the front for mowing high angle trails and taking out overgrowth. I don't know how many people here have operated a high angle tractor like that but holy shit- talk about a killer machine. 6psi in those huge tires, 4 wheel lockers on such a low & wide tractor with so much torque makes for some really cool crawling abilities. Also those hammer flails rock. Brush has no idea what hit it. Shame they're about $70k used! If you don't know what an Aebi is, look them up. Super fkn cool.


I want a Grillo Climber 10.27 so bad though for the regular shit. Much easier to use, and less expensive to fix.

For real though- people who need a competent, capable machine but don't want a full size tractor should look into BCS walk behinds. You can put a flail, sickle bar, brush or finish mower on them, rototiller, chipper, snowblower etc. and they're built like a real fucking tractor, not some Troy-Built dildo spinner. They aren't cheap but they can do a shitload of work with the right setup. Sulkie ready too. Check them out!

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Yes. Depends on the area of the property.


Me too, and that's what I'm trying to avoid. Looks like a used stihl brush trimmer is only a couple hundred dollars on Craigslist.


We're talking about at least 5 acres of clearing, you can keep your loppers.


Got that figured out.

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Come on, you need the conditioning. Are you afraid your neighbors will think you're a Mexican?

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Originally Posted by DoWork

We have an Aebi TT90 with a sick 6' Seppi hammer knife flail on the front for mowing high angle trails and taking out overgrowth.

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Yeah, just looked those up. Super cool.

Has anyone seen the Bobcat toolcat? The newest version (5610) looks like a really cool machine for property maintenance and snow removal. 4 Wheel Steering, Independent Suspension, High Flow Hydraulics, Rear PTO.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Yeah, just looked those up. Super cool.

Has anyone seen the Bobcat toolcat? The newest version (5610) looks like a really cool machine for property maintenance and snow removal. 4 Wheel Steering, Independent Suspension, High Flow Hydraulics, Rear PTO.

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GARBAGE. Either get a UTV or a tractor. The half assed hybrids still suck at both, and they cost way too much to do so IMO.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Or I guess I swing around a machete for weeks like I'm on some sort of deranged jungle expedition.

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and the Vietnam thread was born

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Originally Posted by DoWork

GARBAGE. Either get a UTV or a tractor. The half assed hybrids still suck at both, and they cost way too much to do so IMO.

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I figured it was too good to be true, but if it actually worked I think it'd be a way better machine than most CUT would be for what I need it for.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I figured it was too good to be true, but if it actually worked I think it'd be a way better machine than most CUT would be for what I need it for.

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Don't get me wrong, they work but they're unforgivably gutless on both ends. I imagine they'd get the job done on a farm or long flat acreage, but I wouldn't count on them to mow a mountain etc like you'd think and hydraulic capacity is very low if you're trying to move yardage. Also the implements they sell are kind of flimsy and would likely die quickly.

Someday we will be living the dream but for now it's still kind of smoke and mirrors.

Local dealers sell Deere, New Holland, Yanmar, Kubota and Kioti.

So what's the carbon rocket box eurospec 6-speed manual diesel?

How about the basic Subaru outback?

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

For trees? I have an 036.

For brush, yes a gas brushcutter sounds like an appropriate tool since I have acres of dense brush to clear.

Or I guess I swing around a machete for weeks like I'm on some sort of deranged jungle expedition.



Now we're talking...

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You'd get that motherfucker stuck in two minutes...Don't forget to order the 100,000lb hoe you'll need to pull it out.



Call Asphlundh Gesundheit or someone pro if the job's too big for a brushhook, a saw, and a 4wheeler. That little string trimmer might work after they get done.

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Originally Posted by mooseknuckles

and the Vietnam thread was born

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I inserted into Hanoi without even a busted bayonet. Twice. Pho kicks.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Local dealers sell Deere, New Holland, Yanmar, Kubota and Kioti.

So what's the carbon rocket box eurospec 6-speed manual diesel?

How about the basic Subaru outback?

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Euroapec 6-speed manual diesel= John Deere

Even if they aren't as sexy as a Deere don't overlook Kubota. They make good small tractors. I've talked to farmers who use them and they're very happy with them. They claim that the Kubota's get better fuel economy and have a lower cost of ownership than John Deere tractors. The biggest complaint I've heard about Kubota's are how slow they drive down the road (12mph).

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Originally Posted by Kopi_Red

Euroapec 6-speed manual diesel= John Deere

Even if they aren't as sexy as a Deere don't overlook Kubota. They make good small tractors. I've talked to farmers who use them and they're very happy with them. They claim that the Kubota's get better fuel economy and have a lower cost of ownership than John Deere tractors. The biggest complaint I've heard about Kubota's are how slow they drive down the road (12mph).

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Show us some your rigs...

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Originally Posted by AaronWright

Come on, you need the conditioning. Are you afraid your neighbors will think you're a Mexican?

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LOL, brutal

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

For trees? I have an 036.

For brush, yes a gas brushcutter sounds like an appropriate tool since I have acres of dense brush to clear.

Or I guess I swing around a machete for weeks like I'm on some sort of deranged jungle expedition.



Now we're talking...

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Why not just use the 36 for the brush?

Because it would be like trying to spread butter over a five acre English muffin with a 28lb knife?

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Originally Posted by claymond

Why not just use the 36 for the brush?

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Why not just use k2 pontoons on a water injected race course?

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Why not just use k2 pontoons on a water injected race course?

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Why not just use k2 pontoons on a water injected race course?

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Lol, an 036 gets after it in brush. Lots of Forest Service fuels crews run those.

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Originally Posted by claymond

Lol, an 036 gets after it in brush. Lots of Forest Service fuels crews run those.

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I ran 11 seismic survey crews on a 500-mile job across lower Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas, each one of those crews had an 036. I also had a land man with 5 other land men working under him to secure seismic and access easements from landowners, so we could run those saws all we wanted.
10 of those crews would leave the saw in the truck unless there was no other way.
1 would try to use the gas the other crews didn't use, until I had to run him off for making a gross error one fine morning, and finishing the day taking down a 60" live oak that the proposed golf course community had designed a road and a gated entranceway around. It only took them 2 tanks of gas and two hours to drop it, and they said the ground shook pretty darn good when it finally fell.

Name of proposed golf community? "Live Oak CC".

That little fuckup cost me $155,000.

Not the saw's fault.

Guy sounds like a fuckup.

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Originally Posted by claymond

Why not just use the 36 for the brush?

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Obviously depends on what you're clearing, but for most brush clearing, working with a chainsaw is just too damn taxing on the body compared to an FS260 and a comfortable harness.

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Originally Posted by kootenayskier

Obviously depends on what you're clearing, but for most brush clearing, working with a chainsaw is just too damn taxing on the body compared to an FS260 and a comfortable harness.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by flowing alpy

Fire clears bush pretty fast over there.

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A bit too quickly sometimes.

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Originally Posted by highangle

Name of proposed golf community? "Live Oak CC".

That little fuckup cost me $155,000.

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The should have just changed it to "Dead Oak" and called it good.

I like flowing alpys idea.

For thin and whippy stuff, brush cutter are nice. For brush thicker than like an inch, a chainsaw run by a decent operator is much faster. Look at what contract and govie crews run on fuels units and fires. Great majority of the time, chainsaws. I'm saying Leavenworth Skier could learn a new skill with the tool he has. But I get it, for the average homeowner a brush cutter is easier and definitely safer. And this is the non chainsaw thread, so peace!

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Originally Posted by claymond

I like flowing alpys idea.

For thin and whippy stuff, brush cutter are nice. For brush thicker than like an inch, a chainsaw run by a decent operator is much faster. Look at what contract and govie crews run on fuels units and fires. Great majority of the time, chainsaws. I'm saying Leavenworth Skier could learn a new skill with the tool he has. But I get it, for the average homeowner a brush cutter is easier and definitely safer. And this is the non chainsaw thread, so peace!

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Leavenworth Skier has worked on trail crews and the brush was thick and walk was short, we'd grab the big stihl brushcutter. Chainsaw use for brush removal was more dictated by needing to do multitasking/not wanting to carry a second tool. Brushing with a chainsaw all day sucks.

Most awful brusing I ever did was some trail in a lowland Cascade valley that hadn't been brushed in 5 years. The trail was in Wilderness so no motors. 4 days straight of 4 people with loppers, handsaws and machetes and we only made it 1.5 miles. 90 degree heat and relentless mosquitos and flies, too. I'd like to pass on repeating that.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Leavenworth Skier has worked on trail crews and the brush was thick and walk was short, we'd grab the big stihl brushcutter. Chainsaw use for brush removal was more dictated by needing to do multitasking/not wanting to carry a second tool. Brushing with a chainsaw all day sucks.

Most awful brusing I ever did was some trail in a lowland Cascade valley that hadn't been brushed in 5 years. The trail was in Wilderness so no motors. 4 days straight of 4 people with loppers, handsaws and machetes and we only made it 1.5 miles. 90 degree heat and relentless mosquitos and flies, too. I'd like to pass on repeating that.

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Ok. But have you ever ventured up the Essequibo River in Guyana and hacked through 20 miles of dense tropical jungle vines using a hand machete of dubious metallurgy and a bulletwood handle bought at a local bazaar in Demarara?

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Leavenworth Skier has worked on trail crews ...

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"This is Ricky calling on behalf of Ricky. Ricky wants to play baseball."

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Leavenworth Skier has worked on trail crews and the brush was thick and walk was short, we'd grab the big stihl brushcutter. Chainsaw use for brush removal was more dictated by needing to do multitasking/not wanting to carry a second tool. Brushing with a chainsaw all day sucks.

Most awful brusing I ever did was some trail in a lowland Cascade valley that hadn't been brushed in 5 years. The trail was in Wilderness so no motors. 4 days straight of 4 people with loppers, handsaws and machetes and we only made it 1.5 miles. 90 degree heat and relentless mosquitos and flies, too. I'd like to pass on repeating that.

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Harden the fuck up young man.

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Originally Posted by AaronWright

Harden the fuck up young man.

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I hear you can get tractors with A/C cabs.

Sounds like Aaron really wants in on the manual brush clearing. You should take him up.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Sounds like Aaron really wants in on the manual brush clearing. You should take him up.

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I'd gladly help him. Hard work is good for you and makes you feel great.

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Originally Posted by AaronWright

I'd gladly help him. Hard work is good for you and makes you feel great.

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I plan on having a few brush removal parties. I'll get Neil to smoke a pig or 1/2 a cow or something, I'll get a keg and we can clear brush for a few hours and then drink beer and eat delicious meat.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

Ok. But have you ever ventured up the Essequibo River in Guyana and hacked through 20 miles of dense tropical jungle vines using a hand machete of dubious metallurgy and a bulletwood handle bought at a local bazaar in Demarara?

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Royal is that you?

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Originally Posted by kai_ski

Not the saw's fault.

Guy sounds like a fuckup.

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He had a son with Down's Syndrome who worked with him he called "Boogatyboo". They were known as, "The Greater and Lesser Boogatyboos"....


We all make mistakes. That's why we check ourselves all the time. But I'm more bitter about the $50k I got shorted on that gig than I am about the tree.


Are you asheanmt, or do you just have a crush on his dog?

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

Ok. But have you ever ventured up the Essequibo River in Guyana and hacked through 20 miles of dense tropical jungle vines using a hand machete of dubious metallurgy and a bulletwood handle bought at a local bazaar in Demarara?

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Pinch grip or regular grip?

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Show us some your rigs...

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OK. These pictures would have looked cooler if I took them yesterday with the 4+ inches of snow we had on the ground...

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I hear you can get tractors with A/C cabs.

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Yes they do and it's awesome. Some equipment is equipped with a small refrigerator beside the driver's seat (and under the buddy seat) for snacks and beverages. It also can have hands free Bluetooth connectivity for music selection and for hands free phone operation.

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Originally Posted by claymond

Lol, an 036 gets after it in brush. Lots of Forest Service fuels crews run those.

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If the terrain isn't steep, many fuels programs are running brush hog type units with tractors or equivalent to brush.


As someone else pointed out, brushing with a saw sucks. The ergonomics are all wrong.

Thinning is a different story.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I plan on having a few brush removal parties. I'll get Neil to smoke a pig or 1/2 a cow or something, I'll get a keg and we can clear brush for a few hours and then drink beer and eat delicious meat.

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Send me a text. Sounds like fun

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Originally Posted by highangle

Are you asheanmt, or do you just have a crush on his dog?

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Didn't they get divorced? I thought one of them showed back up for a little while