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I'm eyeing environ xt jacket now. Need sizing help.
I'm always right between M/L .. I have a L arcteryx shell and it's nice but a little soupy. 6'2 185# as I live and breathe.
No retailers near me, I'll have to roll dice.
'Nathan' on the website is 6' and wears a medium in the video, but under 'fit' it says he wears large. unhelpful.
Any advice?
I have the environ and am similar -between and med and large. since I’m local I got to try them on and went large.
of course this was for the women’s environ jkt not the mens but I think the fit of stio on the mens and womens sizing is similar to arcteryx if that helps. the environ jkt material is pretty stiff too(vs the raymer jkt which I also tried out) so the slightly larger jkt holds its form better(vs a “soupy” fit which i think i understand what you are getting at)
Thx thats helpful.
Last year I got environ bib in L, and it fits me smaller and way better than arcteryx L bib. Maybe it's a different cut.
Stio size finder tool says i'll be a L, so if I roll dices thats what I'll roll.
That arcteryx jacket is fine, it's just not the unicorn jacket my inner princess is pining for.
I'm 5'6" and a solid smedium. Got a MD Raymer last year and it's a little soupy but I don't think I'd go down to a SM, plenty of room for insulation and it doesn't look too big.
Yes the fit model is always 5'10" or better and wearing a Medium, don't get me going on trying to find pants that fit
I am also a M/L tweener (M body and L sleeve) and went with the M in the Hometown. I'd say as a comp to Patagonia, the Stio M has shorter arms (than Pata). But, the body is the same.
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Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight
I’m 6’1 200lbs...I wear a Stio Environ L.....
I wear FRS L, Patty L and Arcteryx L.....if that helps with sizing from multiple companies.....
Would sell if anyone interested....like new ....Green/L...
Selling the stio?Quote:
Originally Posted by BC.
Tell me more about that.
PSA stio's 30% off holiday sale is live.
Better than a poke in the eye.
unless someone has some better secret squirrel code ..
I may, once again, fall victim to the shameless marketing. It's becoming an annual thing.
I'm 6', 195#, and prefer a looser fit, so I go with XL in their coats, and LG with their bibs. Both fit great. For reference, I also wear the same shell size in Flylow, which seems to fit a little bigger, and also XL in Helly-Hansen, which fits just a little bit smaller/more fitted. Stio shells do have a somewhat boxy fit.
Stio Objective Pro jacket arrived today. The L is way too big, I have to return it. Strange, I have two thin layers and a mid layer fleece from Stio and the L fit pretty decent, but this jacket is yuuuudge.
Shoulders seem to fit and sleeve length is good, but very soupy around the midsection and the cut hangs too low for me. Pack hip belt and harness really illustrate the extra material.
I'm afraid the shoulders on a M would be too small, and I don't have a store around to go check sizing.
Too bad, I was hoping this would be the unicorn jacket I have been looking for.
It’s a disease affecting many outdoor clothing brands....the Lg or XL fits athletic shoulders/chest/long arms, but then they target the waist size at the Seth Rogens of the world.
Less so in the European brands.
Re-sized for typically fat gringos.
Thank the brands for effective research on who buys their product (xxxxl leisure sizing for the cash spending masses).
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I already dropped it in fedex back to them, kinda wish I would have taken a couple pics first, it was so huge and comically square.
I thought their hot stuff backcountry bro brah jacket would have an athletic cut. I expect that cut from the ol' dallas cowboys starter coat, but not this.
Oh well, no big deal - they have an easy return policy. I'll spend my TGR gear swap $ on something else :)
Bought a thermop fleece shirt in large that fits nicely. I'm 6' 1" 175lbs, long arms, 42" chest.
Very warm, like a slightly thicker R1 Patagonia that breaths just as well as an R1. Like it so much I bought second shirt in a different color.
I have the environ bibs. Really digging the half bib. Much more versatile while keeping the benefits of a full bib. I'm a medium, 6', 160, fit is spot on. For those looking around, I also have a Strafe jacket. I like the eVent, but build quality of Stio is much better than the Strafe.
thanks. what size waist are you? I'm a 30" with thickish thighs (cyclist), 32 inseam. I run a size small in my current pata pants (not sure of model)/Quote:
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+1 I’m a 30x30 and wondering on the fit fro Stio.Quote:
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I'm 30x32, skinny thighs. They not euro cut, plenty of room in the legs. Waist is just right. Mine are a few years old now, not sure if the cut or sizing has changed. I'm can wear small in some pants if I want a slimmer fit, including patagonia, but length is usually an issue. For my purposes with the environs (lots of inbounds, some touring) I wouldn't go smaller or slimmer.Quote:
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So funny, what up Z! This is Pete, from our mutual Reno past. I'm a medium in their pants.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlatham
I’m 30/31 and the small Stio Environ bib fits well. Average thighs, but seems like plenty of room.
I shipped it on dec 4th, they say they got it on the 10th. I just asked - they said maybe 7 more days to see the $. I guess it was still easy on my end, just taking longer than I thought. Meh.Quote:
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I've had returns with them take a looooooong timeQuote:
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I've had really poor experience with their products and even worse experience with their customer service. There are many much better companies out there.
My most recent return (Environ pants) that were damaged upon delivery took a while too.....and several emails/chats/phone call to eventually get my CC credit/refund a couple weeks later.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
I’m always amused how fast (instantly) your CC is charged.....but then how long it takes to get it refunded back.....some companies are better at this than others....(Stio was not in my case)
This sucks to hear. Stio always ends up in my insta and they had a few nice looking items, especially a pair of knickers that looked really good for cold mtn biking. Now I’m not so sure...
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It’s still great stuff......I have an Environ jacket and pants.....just hope you don’t have to return anything....lol.Quote:
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Their specialty is good looks. Not performance.Quote:
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I finally got my hands on an Environ jacket (thanks Gunder!) I've worn it 3 times in continuous rain/snain conditions and have been bone dry. Seems to breathe, vent well also.
Yeah, my dad bought a jacket from them last season and dealt with what could only be called shitty customer service when he had to exchange it for another size. First and last thing anyone in our family buys from Stio.Quote:
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I almost feel bad for whoever finally answered the phone and got a rash of shit from my mom about their customer service.
Just got my credit, fwiw that's 1 month 2 days from when I shipped it, 28 days from when they received it. Oh well. At least it's over now.Quote:
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My quest for a unicorn shell continues!
Raymer quickie:
1.8.21
- 2.5 hours skied,
- no precip but higher air moisture
wore my Raymer jacket on the mountain for the first time today. i like how light it is (the reason I bought it). fit is good overall (for a fit build); arms, length, volume, all good. didn't try the hood. zippers are ok. not the best--a little too sticky. main zipper hard-ish to start. planning to add some teflon spray on the key parts. side zips are fine-prefer pit zips but i knew this jacket didn't have them. phone (held in left breast pocket) had more sweat/condensation on it than usual suggesting it doesn't breathe as well as my other jacket (Quantum Pro}. i did bite it once and discovered later that my main pockets had been open and there was snow inside, so that could have partially caused the interior moisture. appears to have good dwr, though wasn't storming today.
tldr; Raymer is light, well-proportioned (for a fit person) and moves well but i have questions about how well it breathes. not worth msrp but worth sale price imo if it fits your use case.
will update if anything changes.
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Sorry for the goofy pics. This has gotten almost zero use.
Willing to sell...
is that a question for me DU?Quote:
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mine looks different but maybe you have an older model? mine is 2020.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d6c90e163d.jpg
Actually it was for Middle, looking for his unicorn.
It is older than yours so thinking if the cut changed, maybe he was looking for an earlier version.
I am generally not a light shell guy so this one isn't on my keeper list. Nice though, no doubt.
Just stopping in to say how much I love their Turpin fleece. I have a hoody and bought my wife the pull over for Christmas. Fleece is super soft/ comfy and seems to be holding up well in 12 no since I have owned.
Disclaimer: Unless on sale, or you have a discount code; their stuff all falls under “stupid price” IMHO.
I’ve got a new pair of MD Raymer pants I’m going to return if anyone wants a pair at wholesale. Probably ship them back next week
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I'll look into it, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Djongo Unchained
Hard to tell, but it is a L yeah?
The new objective was HUGE on me, so maybe the earlier cuts are better.
It is a Large.
I'm kinda late to the conversation, not sure what you're searching for, just threw that out there as that shell could be doing more work for someone who is searching for it. holla if it appeals to you or for pics.
Can anyone speak to this "PeakProof" fabric? Liking the new freeride stuff but never had hands on this material https://www.stio.com/products/mens-f...44072421589166