Its repairable If a tire store will repair it, last time i had a tire patched down they used a patch that had a plug in it so that might not work so good on a shoulder
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Its repairable If a tire store will repair it, last time i had a tire patched down they used a patch that had a plug in it so that might not work so good on a shoulder
You can also plug + slime yourself... but make sure you use the yellow label slime if you have TPMS.
Find an independent tire dude. You know, one of them old guys that does nothing but tires. They’ll fix anything for a couple of bucks. If you don’t have one of ‘em, come on down ta teh upstates. old Larry down at Larry’s tires Will be happy to fix you up.
I have DMV2 studless on my stock 20" rims (20" rims are fucking stupid, but it is what my truck came with) for my F150 currently and have had a great experience so far. I'll swap them on soon for their third winter and was planning on selling them at the beginning of next fall to fund some new winter tires to fit my 18" wheelset. Might have to go Hakka 10 SUVs based on this recommendation.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
I loved the DMV2s, espeically since I was able to narrow to 245 from 265 on my 4runner and also Outback which made them so predictable slicing through heavy slush. DMV2s in soft snow were unstoppable and great handlers. Good but not killer on hardpack, and ice they were decent and predictable. I was unimpressed with their hydroplaning resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
A DMV2 issue that most people don't realize: the high grip compound was only there for the first 55% of the tread depth!!!!!!! If you have uneven wear, you suddenly had winter grip fading, potentially unequally... and with even treadwear, the 55% thing shortened the usable life on pricey tires... although sometimes it did let you just run them for the summer if mostly through the good compound IF not needing the durability of AT for trails. That was fine on a Subie, not so much on a truck or 4Runner.
Versus DMV2, the Hakka 10 SUV trades off a little bit of extra dry road noise and slightly longer dry stop distances in exchange for vastly better harpack snow and ice performance, plus improved predictability. Hakka 10s honestly makes driving on snow/ice like driving on dry pavement in all but the worst conditions. Next level! Hakka 10 had better wet/water performance. Also, I feel like Hakka 10 lasts longer and are more fuel efficient vs DMV2.
My buddy’s Sprinter with studded snows was stuck and sliding sideways on freemont the other night. Crazy.
Would love to switch out my 20”s and get some 18s w35/s on my tundra. Maybe when the Falkens wear out. My Sequoia with KO2s is a tank in the snow. Drives great. My wife likes it better than her Rav w/ hakkas on it for commuting over vail pass. I have snow tires on some work vans. They do ok. The awd Express is also a tank in the snow. I feel like every car in my fleet is sufficient for a good driver to take out in really shitty conditions.
Shitty studded snows are still shitty. And sometimes it is the vehicle weight/distribution vs the tire dimensions. And sometimes it is strange conditions. I remember sliding sideways on Loveland Pass in a 4runner on DMV2s... it was remarkable icing conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
Seriously look at the Nokian Outpost nATs in 285/75/18 for your Tundra.
In BC the exclusive Hak dealer is Kal tire and they never ever put Haks on sale cuz they don't have to and Haks have always been kinda premium, so I had a quote of < 2800 for rims/ tires/ wheel nuts
so at Kal I end up dealing with the long time tennants son to whom I had just given my tired old dining room set last week and I been pretty good to that family
SO buddy gives me the " friend's and family " deal and knocks off 10% awesume !
I've had 4 sets of steel wheels/ shitty lug nuts rust big time, usually in the spring I can't get a socket on the cheap wheel nuts, Iv'e even knocked out a stud wanking about cuz they are rusted so bad. So I sprayed this new set of rims with Boesheild T9 and we will see how that stuff protects, also I bucked up with these wheel nuts that are 70$ a set but apparently they do not rust which will be worth the extra $$
Confirmed the upcoming Hakka deal; buy 3, get 4 w a 2nd Point . S dealer. 11/25-12/2.
I've been happy with the DMV2s, but I'll give those hakka 10 SUV a try on the F150 if they are beefy enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
Regarding tire pressure for e rate tires. Toyo has a good manual on this. I believe it can be applied to any tire (not just toyo). https://www.toyotires.com/tires-101/...lation-tables/
For my nearly stock Land Cruiser, using that manual, my cruiser rolls at 45psi based on vehicle weight and tire size with the e rate summer tires that are installed.
Yes, those tables are industry standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Do we have about 19 tire threads?
Anywho, my all around badass 72 year old, doesn't open until 9am because he's at the gym, know what he's talking about, OF Upstate AF Granby mechanic that get get me, as an independent, any tire I want said.
Firestone Winterforce
or
Cooper SnowClaw
The SnowClaws were in stock at the the distributor so I'll be running those studded. Stoked to be driving to fast, to early to get the goods.
Yup, Winterforce is what I'm rolling.
Altho at the moment it's only 3 with a new summer as #4 temporarily.
What it comes down to for me. If you live in snow country it’s a no brainer. Spend some coin on the right tool and life is good. No stress to go wherever I want, which works out to a lot more stoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Same here. Too fast, too early is my style.
I've had more than a few mags join me on a big JH pow day, starting with being in the tram maze in the dark with a handful of other nuts.
Coffee, weed and some seriously stoked powhounds.
Shite tire guys riding the bus in and getting 400th tracks.
^^^I resemble that remark.
It has become a no brainer by repeating the " om studded Nokkian " mantra often enough, i seem to remember 15 yrs ago there was a question whether snow tires were needed and on the off chance they were " just get the cheap ones from wally world "Quote:
Originally Posted by chicken feathers
Junior is a fairly serious gear freak and a pretty smart kid, he is rural, but is not hauling in winter so he put SUV's on his F150 and suggested I check out same to save a little on the Tundra but Nokian doesn't make em, i think the saving would be about 100$ a setQuote:
Originally Posted by grskier
I remember 20 years ago when I first got snows. It let me get by driving an old front wheel sedan for years. Then I got a SUV and learned that 4WD and ATs was sketchier than snow tires and front wheel drive when it came to handling, cornering, braking... the 4WD just helped with the go and don't get stuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
"cheap snows from wally world" are always going to crush all season tires, which is what the discussion 15-20 years ago was. That is still true.
What was he looking for on the Tundra? They make a 275/65/18 which is stock on the Gen 2/2.5s. The new gen 3s are 265/70/18 stock 275/65/18 will fit those wheels while being 0.5" diameter downsize. I went to 17s to do 265/70/17s.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
https://nokiantyres.studio.crasman.c...ember_2022.pdf
well SUV's worked for juniors f-150
Kal shop guy sez there were no SUV's for my 24 Tundra maybe cuz he wasn't looking on the right screen or maybe cuz truck is so new or maybe cuz its canada eh
in any case they gave 60$ off each tire and its all sorted
yup ^^ as the road warrior I was spending so much $ on fuel and repairs for a 90 4 runner that I traded it for a new 01 TDi Golf essentially I swapped my fuel bill for my car paymentQuote:
Originally Posted by summit
I had Hak 1's at the time and I could plow thru a ft of fresh pow also the Golf was way safer at highway speed than the SUV
I always ran snows up here even in Vangroovy
I have studded duratracs on my superduty. 325/65r18 on a 8” wheel balanced with bags and I don’t tow in the winter. They were stupid expensive though like 540 a tire studded plus sensors. Absolutely bulletproof studded tire.
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E truck tires? $$
Studded? $$$
34.6" diameter? $$$$
With 325mm section width? $$$$$
Goodyear? $$$$$$
I bet those weigh 100lbs a corner! You don't tow? You could tow a Piston Bully 300 with those tires!
Super glad I put new AT4W's on two weeks ago and I'm trading my truck in today. The deals on the new trucks are just too good. I think I'm going K03 on the new one, but they're about 3 weeks out. So if it starts snowing out west next week for 3 weeks straight it's because of me. :D
Like 140 with a wheel mounted. Stupid heavy. Not as bad as my 37s.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
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Holy hell I just threw out my back trying to imagine changing from summer to winter tires at that weight! God those things must suck to lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
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We have a '21 Sierra Denali 2500. My wife drives it to/from the horse barn in Reno from our house in Tahoe. Plus tows horses with it sometimes in winter. When I bought it, I found a guy selling a brand new stock set of tires/rims from the same truck (he'd lifted his and put stupid big wheels on it). Last year when I was replacing the snows I couldn't find Nokians anywhere (they used to produce in Russia and can't, so stock is scarce). Put on Blizzak LT 275/65 R20. They work fine. And now everything fits in my garage. If it would only snow more.
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JFC, my snows are 67#/corner and my summers will be 91#/corner with E rated nAT 35s.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
Nokian opened a factory in Tennessee this year to replace the Russian factory. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinecure
Scooped up some 275/70r17 LT3s for my 4runner a couple of months back. Glad I did because they're no longer making that size. I know the D-load is overkill for a SUV, but I was pretty set on matching the same size, at least in circumference, as my summers (275/70r17 wildpeaks). My old DM-V2s were great for the first 2 years, but by year 3 the uneven wear started to show. I figured keep the same size would mean keeping alignment as good as it can be. Excited to try Nokians after so many years of hearing how good they are.
Especially now a days. Even the cheap made in Laos by Chinese owned companies produce a fairly uniform tire with knock off winter compounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
what i have noticed in 25 yrs of being the hak Fanboi I would still lose studs
but I didn' lose any studs in this last set of Haks and these are the square studs
I think my GT Ice Pro studdable winter tires (which I didn't get studded) on the old 2500 pickup are from China. Cheapest possible winter tire I could find in an E load range, from a real tire company (ie not Ling Long or Liao Lion etc). Something like $125 each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
I bought tires for 5 cars last winter. I stopped looking at price. ugh.
$9504 for 18 tires. There isn’t enough lube in vermont to take that ass fucking.
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Hit up Diddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
Yes, those Giti Ice Pros are made in China. They also have a factory studding machine to pre-stud tires. So does Hankook for both the Hankook branded and Laufenn branded studdable winter tires. They tend to be more uniform than hand studding like most tire shops do and probably lose fewer studs than doing them by hand. Not sure about Nokian and if they have a factory studding set up but would imagine that they would with the amount of studdable tires they sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
25 yrs of Nokian IME all came pre-studded, I don't think there are any provinces that don't allow studs so they could stud all the tires coming to syrup land
I would stilll lose those studs but this last set on a tacoma I did not lose any of those square studs
Nokians factory installed studs have great retention. They are shaped differently under the tread to hold the stud in. Some of the higher end hakkapeliitta tires use different studs in the center of the tread vs. the sides. Amazing tiresQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er