They apparently did full depth siping on the at3w
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They apparently did full depth siping on the at3w
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Originally Posted by esseff
Damn, I was leaning towards letters out. Now you guys have me thinking differently....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosco
Letters in for the winQuote:
Originally Posted by t-the-east
Really? I hear them all the time. Family members and friends run them often.Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
I have 12k on the Cooper ATWs we put on our 4Runner just before Thanksgiving last year. Best AT tire in the snow I've used and the quietest on road. Others were BFGs and General Grabber AT2s. The difference is most noticeable on packed stuff.
What size did you put on your 4runner?Quote:
Originally Posted by LightRanger
265/70/17. Non-Limited 5th Gens come with 17" wheels. Limiteds have 20s, which I would have ditched immediately if we went that route.
Got it, mine is a 4th Gen limited with 18's.Quote:
Originally Posted by LightRanger
Went with the Cooper WSC which is a true winter tire, vs AT all season.
Will report back.
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Originally Posted by esseff
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Originally Posted by Bosco
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Originally Posted by yellofin
White letters out look good for about 10-15k miles IME before they start to get shitty. If you have a really clean truck and will not be in any situations where the sidewalls may get scuffed or damaged it could work I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by t-the-east
Between the tires and new wheel bearing it's too damn quiet in my ride now, can hear every squeak and rattle in the interior.
Great timing on this thread for me also. Bought a used Xterra in the spring with new Firestone Destination M/Ts. The tires look cool, but haven't had them in any gnarly winter conditions yet and I'm thinking they're going to be a real liability as soon as shit gets packed down... Thanks for the discussion! Time to reallocate some ski funding.
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Originally Posted by east or bust
Funny how I was convinced one way, then started really looking at pics. Maybe white letters are old school...
I guess It'll be like ordering at a restaurant sometimes, I won't know until the words come out of my mouth at the time
Jong lafltte
Thanks for the review what you describe is about the type of driving i will put on the same tire.
will report back after a winter season :)
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Getting dark as I'm leaving the shop, but the tundra looks tough! Looks like a different truck. Thanks for the advice
Looks good! :yourock:
Bought a set of Nokian Rotiiva at tires for my 4th generation 4Runner this week. Two trips to hood in all conditions and so far very impressed. They're quiet and smooth on dry pavement, and much better than the half worn studded toyos I ran the last few years. They're also surprisingly inexpensive compared to other brands. $600 mounted and balanced. 265/70/17
New Wild Peak A/T3W's on the LC. Quieter than expected on road coming from an A/T 'light" tire.
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If you can deal with the noise, you're really going to like them in the snow. They are very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
30 day return policy. Can always get something different if I don't like them.
The DT guy side they will get quieter after ~1k miles. Not sure I buy into that. But I didn't find them noisy either.
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Originally Posted by doebedoe
guy should have gotten some truck tires
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So other than the OP I didn't see much talk of the Yokahoma Geolander A/T. It's the second best rated tire on tirerack.com and gets great reviews for snow: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
Any personal experience?
For a mud tire in snow and ice, I've had the best luck with Cooper STTs siped. I've had them on multiple vehicles. My experience with AT tires is Cooper AT3>Toyo>BFG ATs on mud, snow, ice whatever. I will say I've gotten the most wear out of the BFGs but I'd rather have better traction than buy tires less frequently. Whites in unless it's a cool older truck.
You talking the new KO2 conundrum, or the old BFG AT? I'm running the new KO2 and so far it kicks ass in everything I've put it through. From nasty steep rocky 4x4 roads in the high desert of Oregon, sticky slick muddy roads in Idaho, to really snowy icy roads here in Idaho and Washington. They have over exceeded my expectations.
Hercules are made by Cooper. I think their Avalanche Extreme is a little better that the Discover M&S. I run 10 plys on my 1/2ton 12 months a year and change them out every other fall (+/- 35K).
Great tire in the snow. If not for uneven wear after 35k I would have bought another set. FWIW, the AT2 is now discontinued but found on some sites as closeout.
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Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Uneven wear within the same tire or between the other tires? Without wading back through a third time, what did you end up with?Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
We put a set on the wife's rav4 and they have been great so far. Put a good amount of snow driving on them this last week coming back from CO.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
They seem very quiet as well, quieter than my general AT2s and Cooper AT3s but all 3 of those are on very different rigs so YMMV.
Uneven wear on two of four although the tires were rotated every 5k (that's what the guy told me that changes my oil) on a 4WD (technically AWD).
I replaced them with the Wildpeak A/T3W. I have not really noticed an increase in road noise, but have found the tires unstoppable w/car/tire combo.
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Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Wondering this as well. I have about 2k miles on the new KO2 and have made a point to test them whenever there's been snow. They are undoubtedly superior to the old AT in snow and ice. With the rear locker I've barely had to use 4wd.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
FWIW I got over 50k miles out of my old BFG ATs
I strongly suspect he was talking about the old version. People rave about the new ones, and all the tire tests give them top marks.
I'm still digging the Cooper ATWs on my 4Runner.
Cooper WSC is freaking awesome. I have the passenger rather than the LT model for the 4Runner. They are throughly recommended for mixed snow/ice/cold driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
I still stand by Blizzaks being the best truck purchase I've made. It's shocking how much better they perform than the wrangler ATs the truck came with and the Cooper AT3s that are on it the other 8 months of the year
I think we got our KO2s within about a week of each other. Hit 2700 on mine today. Lovin em, used to have to put the truck in 4wd every time I came up my steep hill. I've only had to once so far this winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
Really hoping they don't wear too fast. Definitely will be rotating every 5k.
Now that I'm E o' crest, renewing my fanboi status for studless ice tires (Blizzak, Hakka, X-Ice). Got Blizzak DM-V2s for the new Tundra. Ice and slippery snow performance is superior for sure. Would have preferred Michelin X-Ice for longer tread life but size not available. Hoping reports are true that newer Blizzak tread life has improved. Will swap in stock Michelin LTX A/T2 in the spring. Tied for top CR truck AT tire. Ya, Michelins are not hot with the in crowd but I've gotten great performance from tires made by the company that invented the radial tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
Been happy with the cooper AT-W for over a year now (full time use). they continue to perform well in snow, deep slush, ice, and the mud/gravel/snow mix that was my road for part of this week. Roads/streets where I live were not designed for cars driving in snow (many are very steep and windy), those tires have been great.
Did Jackson to Denver on weds in Blizzard conditions in the 1500 with BLizzak DM2's, can hardly get the damn thing to slip! Well worth the $$$, curious to see how they wear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
They were great tires on my Outback, really something magic about them on that car. I think there are likely better options for AT tires in truck sizes.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Cooper makes good all season truck tires, but I like Nokians better.
Latest Nokian rotiva vs cooper ATW vs some other hockey puck.
Guys that have the white letters mounted facing out are the same guys that have a single large bill wrapped around a bunch of singles in their money clip. In other words, digital death types. :FM:Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
I have about 1,000 miles on the new Nokian Rotiva, 90% of those in every snow condition possible. Bottom line is they are the best bad weather tires I've ever owned. Deep snow, ice, slush, frozen pavement, they just kill it. I'm sure the same tire with studs would be slightly better on slimy ice, but I've had poor luck with longevity of stud wear with the newer legal studs.Quote:
Originally Posted by klauss
The Rotivas are better than any comparable AT Michelin, cooper, or Toyos that I've had, granted they were older versions. They seem great on dry pavement although I've only had a handful of miles experience.
I bought mine at a local garage,, but Walmart also carries them priced lower than any tires in the same class.
Two solid thumbs up on these tires.
CR gave Nokian Rotiiva middling marks, only "fair" in ice braking but good dry braking rating