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Skimo Co provides warranty support for Plum bindings puchased from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
Hagan USA provides warranty support for their two rebranded ATK models.
(The other points though certainly will appeal to some potential puchasers. Overall, looks like a nice model in an increasing growing niche of "near-race" bindings.)
Yes, I know, but I said widespread distribution and support. The fact that Skimo will warranty my Plums isn't that useful to me when my bindings explode in CO in the middle of a storm cycle. It would take over a week just in shipping back and forth to deal with it. With Dynafit, G3, Salomon, etc I can walk into any backcountry shop in the country and get help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan S.
minimalist except for the price cuz at 700$ can there are whole lot of bindings out there including yer full service options
I'm one of those people. Plus it has a slightly higher vertical release value than the Speed Radical and is ~ 100 grams lighter . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
That price is coming down next year. Not sure what it is. Unusual behaviourQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Slap a SSL toe on it... 240g I think?
They need to if they wana sell any, comparing the can$ prices a speed radical is 429$ list a speed turn is 389$ ... I have always thot the price of that binding was just plain out of line with the marketQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
One of those dealers would really swap in a replacement binding even if the original binding had been purchased elsewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
(I'm sincerely asking as I have no idea what typical shop support is like these days.)
Can only speak to Whistler and Vancouver but yes. That would happen. Sometimes a shop might give a rep or the company a call but the replacement would be from shop inventory then inventory replenished by the company. This happens with Marker, Salomon, Dynafit, Fritschi, G3Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan S.
Depends on the shop. Some will, some won't. Or they might have parts. 0% chance of it happening if they don't carry the product/brand at all though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan S.
Yup ^^ after spolding a heel piece I bought elsewhere the local retailer got the part from the dynafit rep had fixed it for me real quick, I think he might keep a spare FT heel kicking around to speed up serviceQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
its gona be the same rep for all of BC so it doesnt matter who fixes it
of course it could depend entirely on the rep AND the country
I’ve got two full seasons on these bindings. Reasons why I plan on buying another set:
- Full height riser
- Integrated fore/aft adjustment plate
- Reliable
- Never lock the toe in tour mode. The toe springs bite hard enough for my 5’11” 160lb frame to keep skis on without locking them. I can still accidentally stomp the skis into releasing in tour mode but adequate technique has never been a problem even on hard snow with crampons
- Never have to lock the toe in downhill mode. Unlike some other pin bindings, these instill enough confidence to ski unlocked. Last week we skied the Wasatch’s Hypodermic Needle, including 1100ft of hop turns in firm-ish conditions, and the bindings were unlocked, uneventful
- They weigh in at 285 grams
- Typically rotate the heel only once a tour. Start out rotated in flat mode for the approach, then rotate for the first the transition and after that it’s just a matter of flipping the risers for the rest of the day
I have had one repairable failure:
- The hex head machine screw that holds the heel lifter assembly loosened and I had to un-mount the binding to reattach
- This is not a catastrophic failure and if it happens you can turn the heel lifter clockwise to tighten
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In the last few weeks I skied several days with a person using a Salomon tech-capable test binding which is NOTHING like any other tech binding I have seen before. It may have already been alluded to in another discussion, but I can't find the "new gear rumours for 2018" thread, if it exists.
I didn't take a photo because I'm not one of those people who experienced every special moment via their cell phone camera. And because I respect my own and the other person's privacy in a small ski world.
Seeing someone's test binding qualifies as a special moment? Hmm.
Anyway, what pros did you see about it compared to the Kingpin? Aside from being lighter, of course (right?).
Hey J, no, not a special moment for me :) Special for some others. I have a lazy and ambivalent "oh look at that, cool!... um, whatever" kind of uncaptivated response to new gear. Even if it is better than what I happen to be using on a daily basis. Its just another potential expense in a never ending river of gear expenses.
Totally different toe piece to Kingpins. Probably has already been discussed here.
I guess what I'm asking is, did you observe anything about said toe piece that made it superior?
I can only speculate, but the design could potentially offer alpine toe piece elasticity, performance and release. And tech touring movement.
Cool. I think there was some discussion somewhere else and even pics. It looks pretty cool. Tech toe piece is embedded into an alpine toe. It looks good if it works.
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Uh, okay, well shit, THAT certainly has my attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
Hybrid toe.
is it planned for release in 2018/19?
There was a pic on the french forum skipass => skipass.fr/p/imagebank/1/5/6/156403.jpg (can't post urls or images since I'm new).
From memory, the one I saw was all black. And may be a bit different to that one, hard to tell, I'd need to see it from a different angle. Chances are they are the same. And will ice and jam snow under moving parts like a bastard.
The Amer "convertible" binding has been in the works for a couple years, and they've been pretty secretive about it. It transforms mechanically from a full alpine toe to a tech toe, and is unlike anything on the market now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
I got a notice from Salomon with the following link that some on this thread may find interesting...:
http://www.salomon.com/us/product/mt...article=399354
(Or after researching this may be old news...)
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Brakes are worth every single gram. Putting on skis with brakes is hard enough, when they are sliding back and forth and you are worried about them going to the bottom of the hill... no thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
I just got hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuntmanbo
Looks like a lot of plastic for getting deep into the backcountry, but goddamn something like that would be fun for big mountain day tours
Can you post the thread? I can't find it.. tyQuote:
Originally Posted by stuntmanbo
Sketchy English translation, but yeah. The Salomon version is available in the US now. FWIW the MTN/Backland tech binding has not been certified to ISO 13992 standards.
I won't be running brakes on mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
I thinks it has been 4 years since I first heard about this project. Cool to see that its finally coming. A bit Duplo'ish looking for such a technical binding, let's hope it is still "lightweight".Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
The toe should be interesting. They've had some delay's, something with patents. Thats set now, so if anyone is good in finding patent drawings?
I always thought this Amer binding would be the first hybrid binding with safety release in the front and the back but Fritschi beat them. Not a fan of the Vipec toe though.. Oh and dont start a comment about the Beast, that heel piece is just stupid.
Anyone have more info on why Marker could not work out a safety release in the toe? I know they have tried..
Let more hype begin
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Grainy pic teaser. Going to need some deets/close ups on those
. I've been going back and forth between ssl 2.0's, lt12's and the new solly pin tech , for my new touring rig.2.0's are soo elegant but for how long. Lt12's are a good weight compromise for a bit better ski feel and then there's the solly with simplicity , decent weight and mega heel length adjustment. Solly price looks much better stateside compared to the others. More $ relative to the other 2 up here
Lee, is that the picture that has been floating around for the past 9 months or so, or is it new?
Looks like the old pic that's been floating around...
yeah, it is the old one. I read somewhere that they are going to announce this binding this winter at some exhibition, so probably available only 18/19
Yah its the old one. New one to be announced at ISPO. They will hunt me down and bury me in Quest soles if any more pics are taken
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I want to take the pix and post just to ensure that happens.
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re: this binding, I was playing with one in a store the other day and noticed a pretty neat feature that I hadn't heard about, one that turns this from a "no interest whatsoever" to a "could buy" for me, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by N1CK.
when you rotate the heel piece to enter flat mode, the risers do not rotate - the risers are on a fixed pillar that the heelpiece rotates around. the upshot of this is that you do not HAVE to rotate the heel piece unless you want flat mode - you get a low and high riser "race style", plus a rotational flat mode. that in combination with the largeish adjustment range and the 3 U-springs for RV seems like a very full-featured binding, IMO the race-style option gives a HUGE incentive to use this vs say a speed radical/speed turn. 288g/binding brakeless is ok, better than a speed turn, and if these end up cheap on SAC/whatever I could see this being a pretty nice option if they hold up.
apologies if this is old news to everyone else, I hadn't realized this and think it makes the binding stand out among its immediate competition (speed rad/turn, ion / lt, radical st, etc)