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About 10 seconds of Googling also showed that adding a field (and possibly hiding it from the user) that simply says "Leave this blank" as part of the sign up can help filter out bots.. Right now you have literally nothing to stop bots from signing up.
True, but based off what we've seen we really don't think these are bots unless they're really, really good and putting a lot of effort in to spam our site. We're pretty sure it's actual people physically going through the registration process, which is harder to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Implementing a phony field will throw some of them off, but it's not a real solution. The bot could be tweaked to leave that field blank in like 2 seconds once the spammers see the change.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
The nature of our registration process is something that should throw off 99.9% of the bots out there. That sign-up form you were looking at is not for vBulletin. It's for our main site. You don't know that because it's (mostly) seamless. Bots on the other hand are going to be targeted towards a specific platform (vBulletin in our case). So the bots won't click on the sign-up link like you do. They send an automated POST request to the vBulletin registration URL. Go and see what happens when you send a registration attempt directly to our vBulletin installation - denied!Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Most spammers out there target a specific platform. They write a bot that registers on that platform, and then they set it loose on a list of known installations of that platform.
Second line of defense is the email validation. Yeah, having a bot clicking on a validation link is possible. But it helps.
Third line of defense is catching the actual post. I assure you that spam posts are being caught and automatically moderated.
Just implement a logic list or the questions like Tye1on suggested and be done with it. There's probably more time being spent talking about it than to implement the change about hundred times.
Here's your solution. And if you can't answer these questions, too goddamn bad, no TGR for you.
To register for an account, you have to answer two questions:
1) What's the name of the ski that this person is holding in his right hand?
2) What's this person's last name?
http://highfivesfoundation.org/wp-co...e_Stingers.jpg
^^^THIS. Every other website does this. Make the user answer some question, ANY question that any skier would know, and I'm pretty sure the spam problem is gone.
Hell, even Earn Your Turns does this. Yes, EYT, the website so fucking primitive that he has a limit of 4 photos per post because his server is such a piece of shit that it can't handle any more than that.
If you really insist on being a "multi-sport" company or whatever, just have a drop down menu where the user selects a sport (skiing, mtb, whatever) and have it display a signup question that's related to that sport.
I've never seen these type of spam problems on any website that required a simple question to prove you were a human at signup.
The fact that you guys can't figure this out is embarrassing.
We have definitely spent more time talking about this than it would take to fix.
I have noticed and appreciate your prompt deletion of spam, however that is only tackling the symptom.
I also don't see why someone couldn't write a bot that sees the signup page and the forums and puts them together. It couldn't be that hard.
Win motherfucking win
Isn't that Tom Wallisch?
Shh. Don't give it away.Quote:
Originally Posted by telemike
Bump for sand spam, and still no apparent effort at implementing the saucer boy filter.
I want to know more about sand, does anyone know who I should call?
Bump for the continued failure to implement the saucer boy filter.
Does Dunfee need some love specialists?
I've been trying to stay positive and offer helpful suggestions, but this is pretty much pathetic. I hope you guys realize that you aren't the only people on the planet running vB and there are hundreds of plug ins and options - many can be implemented for FREE - that will pretty much instantly kill the daily Indian sub continent spamfest.
It's almost like you guys don't give a shit, or are just too lazy to actually do anything about it. Weaksauce, IMO.
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X2 on jgb comments. I gave you an easy solution that you could implement in five minutes. Why won't you do anything about it?
Oh my, the spam a thon continues. Please fixy nowy
Killing it with the 4-5 year old crowd!
Fucking amateur hour around here.
Fix this shit now, please.
they do care enuff to post in this thread but not quite enough to fix itQuote:
Originally Posted by jgb@etree
mainlineing the weak sauce
That's the worst part of this whole mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
It's not like they aren't aware there's a problem...
It's not like there isn't a solution...
It's just that they aren't fixing it.
That just sucks.
skibabji103 was just Dunfee. He got drunk on 6 bottles of peychaud's, ate a few buttons, invented his own language, which seemed to be an amalgamation of wingdings and Sanskrit, and went to town. I nuked him this morning.
We are getting hit at Epic too.
Every freaking day now.
DO SOMETHING!!!
Are you sure you don't have the tools? Look at your screen, do you see a few different links on there? It's subtle, it's not like there's a banner at the top that says "you are a moderator now!"Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
Read this thread dood. Seems like it's not about blocking after the fact, but about prevention.
What's happening with the ski-related question to open a new account, or any of the other dozen solutions that have been offered????
Exactly. It's not that hard to have a very basic anti-bot system.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
We implemented a Google reCAPTCHA on our registration form last Thursday. Looks like it wasn't how spammers were getting in...weird
We will look at some other of the suggestions here.
Well, I be damned.
did you edit out the part that said after 100 fuckin days of lookin fuckin stupid not being outsmarted by spamlord bots this is a priority?Quote:
Originally Posted by tgrweb
cause i'd be pretty fuckin embarrassed if it was a priority before
Satish the Spammerz sez: All your forums belong to us!
You have a limit of one post per minute (or something like that), how about 5 threads per hour? It would limit the spam from any one userQuote:
Originally Posted by tgrweb
You know, I just feel like you're "not that into us"
It doesn't seem like you want to put the effort in to make us happy, or feel like a priority to you :-(
It's not you, it's me.Quote:
Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat
have you tried making the forums so fucked up w/ floating headers and a big ad sidebar w/ a link to a stash of bunk swag
that even spammers won't post
Except for the brief period of weight lifting supplement spam just recently, it's been way way better.
There's a few new sheriffs in town
Do we get to know who or who locked/banned matty?
Dunno. Wasnt me.
OK. That was funny. And true.Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
Hey, dickbags. Own up to who is locking and banning. I thought we were a democracy.
You don't really think that, do you? It's more like an oligarchy. But with less money. or power.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn