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I'd be down for a group buy!Quote:
Originally Posted by coldfeet
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Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
I've already got plans for a low tech rocking chair. The pivot point is going to be the tits. :fmicon:
could i print a working binding on my 3d-printer using those files?Quote:
Originally Posted by coldfeet
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One doesn't. You have to reach down and turn the heel. The DEMO one I saw required a bit of a trick to keep the brake down but it seemed like an easy problem to fix and not something built into the main part of the binding.
Edit: it didn't reply with quote from a phone, I was trying to reply to Steve
My illusions...... shattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
http://t.co/xQZ6xM6TyR
Check this out lots more information on the ion!
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hubbahubba.
This could be a great contender I hope durability plays out ok.
"this video is private" :/Quote:
Originally Posted by powdergangsters
Looks easier to step into than in the Vipec demo for sure. Kind of odd you can stay in the binding to switch from tour to ski but have to step out from ski to tour? Forward pressure elasticity looks nice, interesting to see how far they can be pushed.
That was quick. Guessing it is under wraps now till sia
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My one repeatable let down in my Dynafit bindings is: small drop with some force into powder, ski decambers, I rebound out of the pow lining up the next turn, ski then rapidly over cambers as I rebound, heel pins pull back a few mm and release, insta-tele in deep snow with some speed in trees... with my head leading the charge. It happens a few times every season, and I don't usually get much air.Quote:
Originally Posted by snapt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKAQtyPORy0 - 1:30 for you neckbeard
Locked toe - locks brake for touring
Heel lifts like Radical
Forward pressure spring to aid with insta tele
Ramps in toe as a bootstop when inserting boot into toe
Toe wings stay open; no annoying Onyx mechanism of entry requiring pole to be used to hold down a lever
Van halen mode to switch from tour to ski at 3:08
I take back what I said about G3 products in the dynafiddle TR after seeing ^^^^that vid.
rog
Subscribed, had high hopes for the Onyx that were dashed. Maybe this one will be better?
My eye keeps looking at how close the toe piece mounting holes are to the edge.
Forward elastisity looks good.
G3 skis have come a long way (from crap to pretty darn good). Hope these bindings follow suit.
Looks like they're staying with their proprietary ski crampons (instead of adopting the more-or-less interchangeable Tech crampon slot).Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
Judging by the New Year's Day video, seems like the heel height is pretty typical but the toe pincers are jacked up a bit to allow more space under the toe springs so as to be able to clear snow/ice out with a finger.
less ramp angle compared to dynafit would be nice.
rog
JonS- rog etc - will take a look at it closer for those details. Keep the questions coming
Lee. Would be great to get a comparison between this and the BD binding. Actual elasticity numbers/percentages?
Looks more durable than the BD but time will tell.
With both, still question the icing issues but time will tell.
Thanks for the vid. Gotta love the shades and bro speak. Lol.
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BD only make tele bindings... why compare a tele binding to a tech?
How about actual quantitative information on "elasticity" for any alpine binding, whether AT or downhill?Quote:
Originally Posted by lynchdogger
Then again, maybe even just a definition of "elasticity" in this context should come first...
He meant the Fritschi Vipec AT "Tech" binding, distributed by BD in North America.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesp
Sure JS that would be right up your quantitative alley. Bring it.
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Nice writeup from Louie Dawson - http://www.wildsnow.com/11812/g3-ion...#comment-58018
Note that all Ion's right now are pre-production / protos
http://vimeo.com/83480412
http://www.doglotion.com/ion-landed
Well no denying that the marketing machine isn't firing on the new binding.
Lee - nice video. Is that the G3 Synapse? thank you
Any word on the hole pattern? Match any existing tech patterns?
^ according to wild snow's blurb today the mount pattern is different than Dyanfit's, so looks like no
I skied a pair mounted on some demo boards at the Coldsmoke Festival this weekend. This binding interests me more than the Vipec, and I only had a couple of runs.
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A bit of an unconventional setup. I've only ever skied those boots in autolocking race bindings. First of all, the plastic tabs were no help with stepping in, I imagine that on other boots with short boot welts (TLT6, Alien, etc...) they probably wouldnt help much. But what was really scary was that although I'm sure I was properly stepped in, I could feel the toe inserts moving out of the sockets on hard turns. Probably not much of an issue on Dynafit spec inserts, but something to look out for if you have something else...
That is insane that tech fittings are still so badly out of spec. What boot is that? No issue with Dynafit, Scarpa, Technica fittings in the ION for now but it seems so whacked that manufacturers can have such variation
Finally got around to getting these for testing.
G3 Ions and G3 Empire Carbons
Aluminimum shiny 7005 alloy anodized for all the Plum look-how-shiny-it-is form over substance gear fappage crowd.
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Demo track has 60mm adjustment. Standard binder is 22mm adjustment
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Forward pressure via spring in the heel
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Getting ready to shred the gnar of Ego Bowl for the TGR cred
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Meadowskippy pow turns on Whistler Bowl at 2pm
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Positive engagement in the toe. Doesn't seem have to the vagueness of tech binders with the heel spacing. Having skied icy moguls or slammed them sideways into crud to test how "elastic" they feel. Easy to setup. Looks pretty. Brakes that are nice and long and seem to deploy easily. That's it for now
I really hope G3 are rewarded with a solid binding for their efforts. I'll happily Sell Dynafit/Buy G3 if so.
Lee - off topic question, but you mentioned it first: is the Empire as fully rockered as the Empress? A friend of mine has left some Empress skis in my ski room a few times this season and they are curvey. Your last photos does not look so much.
They seem a lot less craptastic than the Onyx with that stupendously impractical mechanism of toe entry. But I'm old and cautious and will very slowly sneak into the backcountry with them rather than wholesale drink koolaid. Always remembering that 1st generation backcountry products are destined to have failures and quirks
Empire is really rockered but curiously the tips don't flap around like say a Megawatt (which is just as rockered) so maybe its because they're not as banana-floppy as BD offerings. I'll snap a picture at some point
Thanks Lee.
I reckon those plastic flaps will break under full-time/professional use. I just can't imagine them being durable enough to handle the work-out that comes from shoving your toe at them 400+ times a season, including resetting the pincers with your foot before stepping in, and standing on the toe piece rather than the slippery top sheet in deep snow (my bad habits will have to change). At least a flap failure will not affect the safety of the binding, which is always the real first season concern.
I saw a couple guys skiing, er, 'testing' these today. They were mounted to a new G3 carbon 109-waisted somethingorother. I have nothing of value to add aside from they looked stout. Maybe just metal vs plastic?
Skier had positive things to say; Preferred the toe and said they climbed and descended great, better than his Verticals.
G3 Carbon Synapse wonderski. Climbed better? Biting tongue thereQuote:
Originally Posted by N1CK.
Yes, Synapse. that was it.
As far as doing anything 'better', again I have NO idea if they even worked, just passing along what random guy had to say.
No problem Nick. The Ion binding brought me up hills on the wings of unicorn
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Brakes on the Ion actually work
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Plastic towers help guide the boot into place
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Is the mount pattern the same as either Dynafit or Plum bindings? Read through the thread but didn't see any definitive statements about the mount pattern.
No. Wider. Thx geoffers - edited "Toe is wider; heel is different but about the same"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakelander
http://www.wildsnow.com/11763/ion-g3...kcountry-tech/ says thisQuote:
The screw pattern of the rear is about the same width as other tech bindings, but is designed to mount over other hole patterns without unacceptable overlap of screw holes -- a smart sales touch for the 'new kid on the block.'