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Blatant- have you even been to NY State? It is probably 70-90% deep ass woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusBrody
NYC and the surrounding area might make up a lot of the state's population, but the rest of the state is fucking backwoods as you can get.
I used to drive from CT to Olean,NY to get to college. 7 hours, 2 or 3 states, depending how I went. NY is almost all woods man.
The coyote fired the first salvo. Philth now needs to shit outside the coyote's den and urinate on a nearby birch tree.
Ya know, when I see one of those things I just have to laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
^Are you laughing at it or with it ?
Ya sure it was a Kai-yote?Quote:
Originally Posted by philth
-this dude's been known to drop a load of scat
http://www.tallbeartrading.com/Hats/CoyoteHat.jpg
Q: How are you folks pronouncing "Coyote"?
-could be the reason they're pissed
^^^^^Guy who owns the gas pump in Copper Harbor has a hat like that. I think a parka as well.
This is actually pretty effective with humans. Not so sure coyotes would get the hint tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by jahoney
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Originally Posted by Blatant
You should probably go ahead and review the gun laws yourself because you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. NYC's insane gun laws apply to NYC and NYC alone. The rest of the state has far less restrictive laws, and New York is a pretty big state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blatant
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No permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City).
A license to carry or posses a pistol or revolver is required to purchase a handgun. (See HANDGUNSPOSSESSION and CARRY) Elsewhere than the City of New York, a person licensed to carry or possess a pistol or revolver may apply at any time to the licensing officer in the county of their residence for amendment of his or her license to include one or more such handguns or to cancel a handgun held under the license.
How the fuck does a cute wittle alpaca keep coyotes/dogs/wolves away? That doesn't make sense. They're way to cute and dorky looking to not make easy prey.
Sent from my cell phone. no, a cell phone.
They spit some nasty shit.
I always love anthropomorphism. Yes the coyotes will be scared off by their dead brethren.
Dumbass.
alpacas & donkeys are territorial & aggressive. Don't fk with them. People have been using them to guard flocks of sheep etc for centuries for good reason.
That can actually work. It's not anthropomorphism at all. Animals recognizing other dead animals of the same kind and staying away is called survival.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
My parents had a house in upstate New York. Couldn't keep the squirrels away from the feeder. Shot 1. Squirrels stayed away from the feeder.
This woodchuck fucking learned their schedule, and hid on the weekends, coming out during the week to reek havoc on the garden. A 3-day weekend was a dead woodchuck.
That was about 25 years ago, and probably the last time my dad killed anything. But still. If rodents can learn that shit, coyotes can too. Duck and goose decoys bring in ducks and geese, and fake dead Canadian geese on a new field can keep you from having a new shit covered field (seen it work). Of course, some animals will eat anything dead.
And I'm sure an alpaca is a real mach for a Northern Rockies wolf. :rolleyes2
singular wolf wouldn't fuck with an alpaca. Pack, depending on starvation level would.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
just kill one, put em on a spit rotisserie and feed it to the cat at the end of the driveway
The coyotes in the NE are supposted to be stronger becaue they have inter bred with the wolves.
Well then maybe you can explain why people have been using them to guard flocks for hundreds of years...Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
They definitely run bigger than true western coyotes, supposedly they have interbred with both dogs and wolves on their way east.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crass3000
edit: guy has a terrible pun in the wiki, saying that eastern coyotes have bred with both dogs and wolves, producing "a big canis soupus." BOO!!
Intersting also that it says wolves are of Eurasian origin, i.e. they emigrated here at some point, while Coyotes originated in North America. The Coyotes are the homeboys! USA! USA! USA!
Ha. An option my cat would enjoy.Quote:
just kill one, put em on a spit rotisserie and feed it to the cat at the end of the driveway
Of the hand full of ranchers around here that utilize llamas or alpacas to guard our flocks, not one has lost any sheep to predators. One of these guys went from losing 2 or 3 a year to none. K9's don't like their appearance, apparently. Or so I'm told.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...shepherds.html
http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/pubs/1218.pdf
http://www.predatorfriendly.org/how-...0Livestock.pdf
http://wolfarmy.net/non-lethal-preve...ck-protection/
http://www.wolfarmy.net/docs/llamas.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_llama
http://www.sheep101.info/201/guardians.html
:rolleyes:
I dont have any hard evidence, but from what I've heard, alpacas/llamas protect against yotes pretty well but arent going to do a whole lot against more than a couple wolves.
When I was in mt, a nice lesbian alpaca rancher couple, yea weird demographic, obviously lesbians, carhart head to toe, I never could guess which way they voted, had their alpaca population destroyed by wolves. My memory is kind of hazy on this exactly though. There is a chance it was coyotes but I'm trying to remember and I think it was wolves.
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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Llamas can protect against a pack of coyotes and/or a couple of wolves.
If you have a pack of wolves, get a mammoth donkey and tie some ribbon to your fencing.
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...ts/donkey2.htm
http://howlingforjustice.wordpress.c...ver-livestock/
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multimed...tml?cid=983160
http://kerryg.hubpages.com/hub/Lives...ardian-Animals
http://wolfarmy.net/non-lethal-preve...ck-protection/
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/cos/info/wi...cs/wolves.html
I have no dog in this fight, but a couple of the links posted say those freaky alien creatures arent as effective as guard dogs.
Who knew! Alpacas are cute, valuable, and protective!
Yes, eastern coyotes are practically a different subspecies from moving east as people moved west and interbreeding with wolves and dogs. Saw this National Geographic article about it. Eastern Coyotes are way bigger and heavier set. They kinda look like mangy german shepherds.
Mama and six pups just trotted by me while I was out splitting wood.
Oh my i read this whole thread looking for the guy whose two wives were having trouble with him and his three cougars, hoping to lend some assistance. This thread is about dogs, not pussy, and lesbian alpacas apparently. I googled alpaca to see what this is all about and, well they are sort of cute in a camel toe kind of way. I do have a cpouple of questions thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Do they swing both ways?
Do they taste like chicken or fish?
Was there a thread about cougar problems or not?
Yes. But generally you don't use one single method.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
You don't use dogs OR llamas/donkeys OR fencing ribbon.
You use Dogs AND llamas/donkeys AND fencing ribbon AND not leaving food around.
To put in terms TGR might better understand:
You don't use a beacon OR a probe OR a shovel OR an avalung/flotation device...you use all of them to increase the likelihood of success.
Yep. In the east the "coyotes" are more of a coyote/wolf hybrid. Easter coyotes are definitely bigger than the coyotes out west, but smaller than the wolves out west. Their hybridization was basically an evolutionary survival technique. Similar to what's occurring with the Polar Bear/Grizzly Bear hybrids in the Arctic.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
We had a couple llamas with our 500-head herd and would still lose a couple lambs each year but nothing like the slaughter the coyotes inflicted pre-llamas. I always understood it was their curious nature that would have the llama want to go check out the strange looking ewe (coyote) and approach it... basically running it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
I always love when people don't know what they're talking about and call others dumbasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
Dumbshit.
Thats interesting. Are there many issues with the gaurd dogs and gaurd alpacas/donkies getting along with each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by iscariot
Mostly the dogs leave the llamas alone, and vice versa. ie. They'll hang out but generally learn to stay directly out of each other's way.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
We had a guard dog too with our sheep herd, but my brother and I played with it too much which apparently turns them from professional guard dog into family pet that stays in the house.
We also had these awful spring-loaded cyanide bait things we called 'gitters'. The coyote would bite down and pull it, shooting death spray into its mouth. It would be dead after about one minute of horrific convulsing, foaming, and yelping. I only know that because I watched a neighbor's dog accidently bite one and I'm still haunted by the scene.
Best advice yet, made it worth reading the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by powder11
For the OP, I'm sure that if you kill a coyote or two that your cat will be fine outside forever. :nonono2:
letting cats out to go kill birds and such is pretty douchey
that being said, I'd recommend some snares
snares for the cat? I thought he was trying to keep coyotes away? :fmicon:
Starting my stakeout/ambush in a few mins. 12 gauge, bottle rockets, spotlight, headlamp, a few pumkin ales, some beef jerky and the latest issue of Barely Legal.....you know, for the artcles . As in my origional post, I have no interest in killing these guys. Just trying to scare the shit out of em.
^ show them this thread .
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Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
Why? Humans are resposible for bazillions more songbird deaths every year than cats ever will be.