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The high society deal is good for the 2 for 1, makes it $550 each.. they seem a little nice than the ones we see off ebay or amazon, and they are local here. All their boards probably come out of one of the chinese factories. Kids loved them in the lakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
So, bumping again, been browsing amazon and trying to make sense of the differences between the amazon ones and expect as was posted that there aren't many differences. But being a SUP jong I want to see if there's something I am missing or should I buy the cheapest one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BY8C3GB/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088WGKH1X/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0822NC27P/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DV6BJ1V/
and I hear y'all on the electric pump but that will be a secondary purchase after I get tired of the manual pump.
You'll get tired of the manual pump after the first time blowing them up.
I bought two High Society SUPs when they were doing a buy one get one sale and for that price, they were totally worth it.
I guess the main risk of buying a cheapo Amazon one for lakes and such is that they'll sink.
They have BOGO but it's 799 for 2, these on Amazon are close to half that. And they all get decent reviews.
Honestly, these are for my wife and kid, so I'll let them figure out that using the manual pump sucks.
They'll figure it out after 5min of pumping and one board isn't even half inflated, and then you'll spend 30min pumping them the rest of the way up while they fuck around on their phones, and then you'll order an electric pump on Amazon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I'm just saying, you're gonna buy one, might as well just factor that in and do it up front.
In my limited experience with cheap sups, bigger is better. We have a couple of them and our friends do also. So I've used a few of the cheap ones. Something like your second link that's 11' long and 33" wide is more stable and comfortable (and probably slower if that matters) than the 10' ones.
And yeah, the manual pump sucks but if you're airing a few boards up you can let the electric do 80% of the work and then switch to the manual to get up to 13psi while the electric moves on to the next board.
What SUP to buy really depends on what you want to use it for. There are huge differences in quality and shape/design. I originally thought the whole SUP thing was just a gimmick, but I absolutely love SUP now. I've run whitewater, my family has done multiple self support SUP trips in the Tetons, MT, and BC, I love to go on long lake cruises, and I paddle for fitness and have even gotten into some racing. I have inflatables - I keep them inflated when at home so I can just throw them on the car and go, but have taken them as luggage to Mexico, Panama, the Virgin Islands, Belize, the Galapagos, even tributaries of the Amazon. I don't mind the pump but keep them inflated as much as possible so I only have to pump when I go somewhere new. If all your wife and kid want to do is lie on a board in the sun, it probably doesn't matter what you get. If they want to get into yoga or fitness or something else, quality and shape matters. For inflatables get one that can pump to at least 15 psi if they want to really paddle.
I use Red Paddle boards and run them at 17-20 psi. For fitness/touring/racing/whitewater a good paddle makes a huge difference too.
How much does a pump cost? No idea what I should be looking for and how much I should spend.
Paddling around lakes, can't imagine they'll be used for anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by WMD
Width matters. Skinnier than 30" and they get very tippy. 32" wide can be a good stable width. Long and skinny means faster but less stable. 10-11 is a pretty typical length for general purpose.
Thickness matters too (that's what she said...). 4" may not provide enough flotation for bigger people, making them super unstable. 6" is better for larger people, two people, taking a dog, etc, but can feel like riding a cork if a super light person is on it.
Mine was about $99 new. They are also nice for getting all the air out when deflating to pack it down. Like others said, if you have the storage space, leave them inflated. X2 on finishing em off with the hand pump. Also make sure the valve is set correctly! Sucks when you wait 15 mins to inflate then lose most of it when you unhook the pump and have to do it all over. Ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Some friends have some cheap ones from Amazon. They are sufficient for booze cruising. One was defective but still functional and the company sent them another board free of charge. Didn’t have to send the other back. I get the feeling they are pretty cheap to make.
Had good luck with this pump last season
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tou...lack/535758726
Huh, we have one of these in my car (not the same exact one, but same basic idea), maybe I already have what I need?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser
Perhaps, but the one I linked is a dual stage unit with fittings for the sup valve. The 1st stage is high volume (think pool toys) and the 2nd is higher pressure to get you up into the 13-15psi range for the sup. Ime getting connected from the inflator/pump to the board is not without some challenges since sup valves (particularly on these cheap Chinese boards) vary somewhat.
Ah, thanks, didn't notice that. This is what I have in my car (not exactly but basically), doesn't look like it will work: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kensun-Po...ll&athena=true
I've heard of people doing some pretty long trips in the ocean https://normhann.com/ but thats probably not going to be youQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Running raft shuttles I have seen pumps fail from people using them to air up 16 foot rafts so there is a duty cycle to consider
This is the one I bought. It was like $25 cheaper at the time though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
wifes first sup was the middle of the road. decent enough and I enjoyed it jumping on from time to time, even caught some trout last year just trolling the lake. last fall she jumped on the high society 2fer. the material is thicker, more rings to attach stuff, seam welds are bit wider in material overlap. I did get the bigger one for fishing off so I got that going for me.
We have the 2 high societies. We burned out an airpump last year that was single stage, so we're in the market for a double stage, may look at the rechargeable ones though for alpine laking.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkgt
there ya go ^^ pump burnout is a real thingQuote:
Originally Posted by grskier
usually i transport mine inflated in the back of the PU, one big snow year i left it in a snow bank all winter but I never needed to add air, just pump it up once & leave it aired up all season,
wearing the dry suit I maybe get in a really cold last paddle before the lake ices up then I deflate/stow in the gear room AKA the living room
I've been thinking about picking up a couple boards for a few years now. The small Ace hardware near our cabin is closing out some boards. The brand is Bote.
https://www.boteboard.com/
They look to be pretty nice. But I'm a newb on these things. Played around with one on a trip to Hawaii a couple years ago but that's all I've been on one.
They have both inflatable and hardboard styles. I'm leaning towards the hard board and the bug slinger model as I would like something stable that I can throw poppers with my fly rod to the small bass and sunfish around here in Northern UT.
I would go with the 12 ft for my fat ass and either a 10'6" or a whole different style for the rest of the family.
Anybody have experience with this brand? Inflatable styles would be nice to transport but in reality I would never deflate except for storage. I'm concerned with the durability of the inflatables. Have had family members with cheaper inflatables that have had problems.
i put a good 30-40 days on the 12'4 king kamehameha rackham areo inflatable bug slinger without much issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by UTpowder
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its big but stable as fuck and will take its loaded weight well
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it handles chop/ waves well but about 10mph of wind and the upwind goin can git tough
the 3 peice paddles = meh
i couldnt imagine dealing with a hard deck that large
i think im gonna add a flat top 11'6
https://www.boteboard.com/collection...e-paddle-board
to the quiver as the racks and accessories are interchangeable but not cheap
and a little smaller and lighter plus the air friendly travel size wouldnt hurt
Red paddle used to or still has hiding on their site a vid of throwing the boards off a 2 story building and driving over them with a construction forklift, inflatables are pretty bomber while hard boards get damaged in transit so I use my inflatebale to cushion a hard board from the tailgate of my PUQuote:
Originally Posted by UTpowder
I fix hardboard dings by dabbing a little 2 part on the boo-boo and taping a piece of plastic bag over it for a smoove finish without sanding
I think the key words there were “cheaper inflatables”, so yeah. Take care of them and float just on the lake and probably fine. But if you want to be able to toss them around like we do and maybe get into some rapids, spend the extra money for a good inflatable.
No experience with Bote. We own inflatable boards from Red Paddle Co and HALA. Both products are bomber.
3 Hala boards here as well. Wife had an issue with hers just out of warranty but their deal and they came through fully. Absolutely fantastic CS.
Thanks guys, I've checked out Red and Hala and was considering going with them. I just saw the Bote boards while wandering around the new Ace hardware shop at the lake. It looked like prices were about 50% retail which I thought was pretty good for this time of year. Last years models I think.
I agree the key words are "cheaper inflatables". Have a couple of family members that are only concerned with price, and end up replacing things several times. I'm kind of opposite. Of course I want a good price but am more then willing to pay for quality. I'm too old to screw around with inferior products.
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Hey skifishbum is this pic taken in Cache Valley? It looks like the exact same spot that I would like to start fishing from an SUP.
I stopped by the Hala shop one day and they had demos for sale there for like $500- $700 which seemed real reasonable.
Maybe check out anywhere that would have a fleet to sell off.
we got a Costco "Jimmy Styks" brand inflatable a few yrs ago and it's held up remarkably well
We also have a "Bote" hard/ non inflatable sup which has served us well
The inflatables are a bit less responsive, but it works just fine - I make my husband take that one :P
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so iI found the video of redpaddle abusing an inflatable, it was hidden on page 2 of this thread
https://red-equipment.ca/pages/made-of-tough-stuff
Red makes awesome boards. Inflate to high pressures for stiffness and last a long time. I've had multiple Red boards and have taken them all over. They are great. The only others I have personal experience with are NRS- first generation boards didn't hold up but seem better now.
I have an Isle as well and it has been solid even when paddling around with the dog on board. GF has a Tower. It’s a bit shorter and narrower than mine so a bit more responsive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Local ace HW has retrospec weekender with 300# capacity for $430. Are there better options at this price point? For noodling around at local lakes/reservoirs. For myself and/or family.
I snapped a fin on my Isle a few years ago and they were doing so well no replacements to be had. Customer service guy said Tower used the same fitting on the fin so Tower hooked me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy21
I’ve had both but good vibes with these companies.
You a Costco guy? Several iSUPs on sale now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Thanks! I’ll check that out. We’d have to re-up our membership. It’s an hour drive from our house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Jong question: I’m seeing shorter boards marketed for shorter people. 3/5 of my family is below 5’4” and 2 will always be that short. For bigger people to use that type of board, what’s the trade-off? My semi-educated self says that it’s a decrease in stability and maybe slower(?). What am I missing?
I’ve got a Rival Hala Nass for sale. If a maggot is interested let me know. Not totally stoked to ship it but I would I suppose. Located in Central Washington.
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