fixed it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blurred
Seriously though, Ajax still has some decent bumps, but 90% of the bumps I ski any more have very little rhythm.
fixed it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blurred
Seriously though, Ajax still has some decent bumps, but 90% of the bumps I ski any more have very little rhythm.
Yep, all I skied growing up were bumps. Rocking the z-line down Skidder at the 'Loaf was the proving grounds. Bump skiing will help your balance and skiing is all about balance.
fucking short skis. my snowboards are all longer than most skis these days and it does fuck up the bump lines. I don't cuz I don't do them like I am trying to fuck someone's grandma. Get after that shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
No this isn't Gapicski. fuck them too.
Edit to add: sorry about the fucking grandma line. Comes from someone I knew giving shit to someone else and they said - "What the fuck is wrong with you? You ski bumps like old people fuck. Slow and careful. Let's go." that is all.
^^^ Precisely this.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarveMan
There is no perfect turn, and no perfect terrain on which to perform a perfect turn. So therefore we must learn to make any turn, on any terrain, at any time.
Yeah, but the reality is that a decent proportion of the skiers on this forum ski in the back seat with a heinous upper body rotation and a gay pole plant. They just get away with it because they're fit, motivated, have some balls and modern equipment. :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeStrummer
God's way of telling you that your intended line has already been skied.Quote:
Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
As Senor Mohawk stated "show me a ski hill without a mogul field"
While I did grow up stick chasing bumps were always something between where I was and going. The real trick is to be a stud and buck up.
1. Find the best line before you start - it will be fall line, and will have some smooth easy to identify troughs at least 4 or 5 turns (the longer the cooler you will look) I M P R O V I S E. ding. ding. ding.
2. Pole Plant. ding. ding. ding Breath too.
3. Keep looking ahead. I M P R O V i S E. ding. ding. ding
4. If you are cool now jump off of the next bump spread eagle ball grab and keep going
The trick to charging bumps is practice and balls. The key is to know how to back off and when to let em rip, and being good enough to let em rip without blowing up or looking like a kook.
Don't worry though because some of us just are really that much better:tdo13:
Skiing poor conditions makes you a better skier btw.
Little features on the slope to help you turn. Last year, Tahoe didn't have any and it was chaos. I hear AK suffers similarly this year. Pray to the weather gods, and maybe some moguls will appear. We could sure use your snow down here (this year we have no moguls either - no snow at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
oh yea just like in powder "Feet Together, Knees Bent, Hands Up"
SMILE
You guys have pretty much covered it all I think.
Except, didn't a Russian guy pioneer the whole mogulage technique in the 60s? Freagin communists invented mogulage?
Now you have to learn how to ski bumps on what olympic athletes use to train (ski around the jumps). Usually you'll see bamboo on the course to keep gapers off.
If you're not making about 2 turns per second then you're not skiing htem properly. Also don't turn in the rut, hit the bump and turn on that. Bumps are faster on ice than in fresh or spring snow, way more intense. That's when (as warthog eluded), your ski flies off behind you when you go down, later to return and hit you in the face.
In conclusion, I find that that having my binding mounted forward helps. In contrast, you'd want it mounted back for pow. If you can't ski moguls it doesn't really matter.
:yourock:
I took a four weekend course this winter. Single best thing I've done to improve technique in 20+ years skiing. Don't know why I waited so long.
Speed control is the whole focus for me, not slow, but the ability to control it. It's amazing how little adjustments can impact that. Getting your weight forward, ankle flex, and enough counter can really help keep the skis in contact with the snow. That translates to speed control, rhythm, and confidence.
Speed it up a little, rinse, repeat. The fun part for me is varying the line, sometimes hammering the zipper line but other times riding out random lines across the trough or turning on the tops. It's not as stylish, but definitely helps practice the need to turn unexpectedly and stay in control on varied terrain.
As mentioned early on in this thread, skimming the tops is probably the easiest method out there, although it does require commitment to taking more speed through the line than one is likely comfortable with.
I didn't see any progression in my bump shredding ability until I paired up with three friends who all had backgrounds steeped in bump comps; forced myself to pick a line, point it, and rip it as fast as I could to try and keep up with them. Paid the price on a number of occassions, but that's why they put the bar at the bottom of the hill. All that said, I think one of the best parts about skiing out east for me ends up being the spring bumpfests.
Definitely agree with the assessment that bump skiers (current or former) possess greater ski control ability than those who shy away from the moundfields.
I thought you were only suppose to turn when something got in your way?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongShortLong
I'm confused
Another reason to hate god and moguls.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
I love bumps. Finding them up here is going to be interesting.
As for technique I just try to do what my wife does as she kills it in any bumps, anytime. I did get a piece of advice once from her or another bump coach we hung out with that its like pedaling a bike backwards. Imagine that motion and get your legs to do it all while staying way forward.
I really do love bumps. :)
You're doing it all wrong. You're supposed to consume vast quantities of psychedelics and just let it rip.
There's too much intellectualizing going on.
As for bumps who cares if I suck at them, I still like them. It's skiing dammit and as long as I'm not strapped down or my diaper needs changing, I'm going.
If you want to learn to ski bumps move to Telluride for a season. It's impossible not to rack up a couple hundred thousand vert of steep bumps in a year there. Nothing like skiing down the Spiral Stairs thinking you are ripping and having some chic on teles pass you at eye level to inspire you to get your zipper line dialed.
For my money the secret is an even median flexing ski. Stiff tails will kick your ass in short order. Ski the steepest bumps you can find because they will immediately punish you for technique errors and force you to ski right. Constant contact is what it takes, so flexibilty is better than strength.
That's dialing a different zipper line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudfoot
Amen brother... Amen. You for sure would be fun to ski with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
I can have fun clicked in on small summer snow patches to the odd rail to wide open pow fields to high speed groomer domination... its all good. Its all skiing...
make sure you have fitted boots,more control of skis and turns if you can use your toes/feet for balance.
"it's all in the hips"
i suck but i can't stop!!!!!!!!!
Bumps are just like regular skiing except someone else is telling you exactly where and when to turn.
If you can do short radius turn on command on a groomer, you can probably ski bumps.
I think it's all about the upper body.
Square to the fall line, no rotating.
Hands up and reaching down hill.
X2 or however many there are ahead of mine...Easily the best statement I've heard in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarveMan
You've just got to practice a bit in the off season
to get better at skiing moguls, just play more "tiny wings" on your phone.
That was Sweeeeeeet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisteoff
Impressive, but I wonder how his knee's are now?
Hate to admit this, but 2 things that made me a much better mogul skier in college.
1. Dialing in my technique on fucking Bigfeet. You know- the original snowblades. Have at it, but I ripped after a couple bump sessions on those things.
2. Having to follow Jill Vogtli down the mountain. She is still the single best skier I have ever tried to keep up with. She absolutely shamed us all.
The GS style turns are super fun. I love clearing 2 or 3 bumps at a time. Kinda have to tone it down on east coast boilerplate though. Gets kinda painful if you miss the landing and slam the top.
I smash em on my fatties. Moguls are just in the way.
How to ski moguls 101:
Get some speed
Aim at a fatty
Hit it hard and get some pop
Spot landing and next take off
Repeat till run is over
Once you get better you will be gaping 3-5 of the fuckers at a time
Problem solved lesson taught have fun out there
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Thank you for summing things up perfectly. I like skiing bumps, but when the downhill side of every one is a sheet of ice, it's absolutely no fun. Slush bumps in spring are some fun shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grape_Ape
Actually, unless you're ripping the zipper at Mach 5, and slamming the front side of every bump, it's not that bad on the knees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
Smooth and flexed, turning on the backsides and taking the bump straight on while flexed is not bad on the knees. I was happy to learn this given a reconstructed ACL. Kinda like a good swim technique, fast should look smooth and easy.
It's more a strength thing for me. And boot pain. My technique is pretty sound, but definitely no zipper lines coming from me.
Small moguls I just ski over.
Slamming bumps isn't sustainable, skiing the round flat line is.
Go stand in a mogul field - look for the sections of the mogul that are steeper than the average pitch of the run, then look for the parts that are shallower than the average pitch. It will all make sense.
If a freestyle team has been training on a line this won't work so you're going to have to skip/slam them.
Like others in this thread, I think I'm good all-around. I snowboard though so I guess i have an out. But was in a mogul field back in December, huge ass moguls covered in new snow, it was f-ing depressing, I barely made it out.
this thread is sure a sign that this winter is blowing so far. if we are talking about moguls, then there is not enough stoke out there.
On the east I mostly ski moguls. It's the only thing that gets me somewhat ready for out west. Otherwise it's like training for a marathon in an apartment.
DBT trying to pose like he skis. :nonono2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
Good job recycling what has already been said in this thread.
Snowboarders ruined mogul skiing for the masses. The best mogul skiing=MRG under the single chair. Ski that for a week straight and you will be a better mogul skier or die trying.
Thanks for sharing, Wow, kid could ski! looks like he could rock the mono-ski like a pro, knees look duct-taped together.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarveMan
Sorry he was lost, hope you had good times together.