^Condolences
I actually bought a new pair if T2's this winter, 3pin cables too. You know, prolonging death...
I guess I'm a pretty sick guy :fm:
But for meadow skipping its a blast. Haven't touched my alpine gear for a few weeks now.
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^Condolences
I actually bought a new pair if T2's this winter, 3pin cables too. You know, prolonging death...
I guess I'm a pretty sick guy :fm:
But for meadow skipping its a blast. Haven't touched my alpine gear for a few weeks now.
This troll-thread topic is killing me. It never fails. Never.
Somewhere Kristin Ullmer is smiling.
Out.
It's also ten years old.
This thread has my approval.
Telemarking is fun, hard to master without many days. You can’t be proficient with a few weekends a year.
That said, telemarking is like driving an old clapped out rear wheel drive jalopy. Alpine skiing is like driving a super charged four wheel drive dune buggy.
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I know plenty of ripping teleskiers that just go out and rip but don’t talk about it. I find the folks talking about it are not the rippers. Usually the same folks talking are the same people that have “Mountains please” or “The mountains are calling and I must go” stickers on their smaller SUVs.
Kind of the same for most sports though. Such is life.
I find that talking it up has increased our numbers. In the last year alone I’ve seen two converts and have sold at least 3pr of tele bindings for Freeheellife - our local tele shop, the last of its kind in SLC
The funny thing is that I use tele gear but I mostly parallel ski them. I like trees and end up having to climb up out of runs that close out. Having a free heel is great for this.
The thing is that you can ski free heel gear in a parallel stance. Once I got the balance down, I ceased to be able to tell the difference between tele gear and downhill gear. So I got rid of my DH stuff and have skied for years this way.
If tele died it is because the industry killed it! They figured out that there is much more money in AT gear. The bindings cost a lot more money and they only last a few years because they are DIN rated. Insurance companies will not allow them to reuse DIN bindings. So every time you buy new skis you buy new bindings. I have tele bindings that are on their 4th pair of skis. A savings of hundreds of dollars.... so far.
In a sport, which is rapidly becoming too expensive for many people, this is to be expected if not appreciated. And so it is....
The rippers I'm talking about just like doing it. They don't care about increasing numbers or growing the sport. They just like teleskiing. And if you can telepine as well as you can alpine, tele is probably for you.
This is me (except for getting rid of the alpine gear as I haven't had any for decades).
I don't give a shit about growing the sport, except for the fact that I want good tele gear available to purchase when I need to purchase gear. So I want the market to be robust enough that some manufacturers still exist.
This is one reason to grow the sport. If 22d doesn’t sell enough bindings and scarpa doesn’t sell enough boots each season they will cease to make the gear.
I’m an avid vocal supporter and when I worked at the local big box coop I would routinely send ppl to freeheel life. Since Black diamond stopped selling telemark gear, freeheel life is our only tele shop in town. If we don’t keep kids buying the gear the sport will indeed die.
Got to say though it was refreshing to ski at Alta bird last weekend. I saw probably 20 or more telemark skiers young and old shredding around. Michael smiled.
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true story
Did I touch a nerve? You are a tele skier working in a tele shop. Of course my comment touched a nerve.
I think you're proving EWG's point here.
Maybe our tele paths will cross someday. I hope they do. I'll buy beers and make fun of tele skiers while I'm taking off my tele boots. Or maybe you'll be tele'ing and I'll be locked down. Maybe my smoke show of a wife will be tele'ing with us, or maybe she'll be on alpines too.
Ya'll have heard the joke about tele skiers screwing in a light bulb right?
Danno-I hope manufacturers keep making cool stuff. You guys get on the rooftops and preach the gospel.
Hey just so we are clear, I know plenty of tele guys and gals who ski quite damn well and don't talk about how tele is the only true way - my brother and Danno among them. I just know enough tele faithful that it's makes it fun to tease all the freeheelers.
I mean, if we can't give each other flack, why are we even talking?
Nah, no nerves touched. I love skiing tele, love sharing the tele stoke with others and shit talking. I do hope our paths cross. I got stickers to share!
is there a misery stick somewhere in this thread?
so the shitty tele skiers preach the gospel and/or talk shit about other shitty tele skiers?
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I tho i had exhasted all the jokes but I just came up with
telemark skiing is the C-1 of WW paddling
I reserve the right to talk shit on a ski forum about people talking shit regardless of skill or the gear they use to get down a hill.
Really, it's all just skiing. Hell, you've got more than one poster talking about how great tele gear is because they've figured out how to ski with their heels down. What a world we live in...
Hope to make some tele turns with you someday. Merely commenting that you want manufacturers to keep manufacturing but you don't support growing the sport yet we're chatting in a thread titled "Telemark skiing is dead". There's a hint of irony there. Personally, I hope my NTNs don't break again because I'm at the point of not caring if I buy or don't buy tele gear anymore. My TX Pros are my most comfortable ski boots too.
One of the buds was also a world class C-1 paddler had to train for worlds with class 4 kayakers cuz it was so hard that no local one-bladers could paddle at that level but not so hard in a kayak, the one blade jokes were much like the telemark jokes, eventualy buddy quit competing & went 2 blade cuz it was so much easier
I never paddled squirt but I think of squirt as just another dimension ?
The telemark industry has never really improved on the performance of the Asolo Extreme Pro boots and Chouinard cable bindings.
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I think that was my first teleski setup (rental gear). Bindings might have been Riva2 though.
I'm feeling you XXX-er. I used to run IVs with a C-1 guy. When we stepped up to Vs, he found a second blade and sat on his ass in the boat. Pretty cool to watch him do his thing though. Kind of like watching a ripping tele skier rip. I have seen a C-1 guy run Vs. I've also seen some tele folks on some pretty gnar stuff. Those folks are few and far between though. I do cringe watching bad tele skiers. More work and less fun. I hope they find their turn someday. Or sell their used gear when they give up. Watching bad C-1ers wasn't much fun. Looked like every other swimmer in the river.
Well, Conundrum, you've created quite a conundrum for me. If I care about growing the sport and work to do so by "preaching the gospel", I am not a ripping skier because the ripping skiers keep quiet and don't care about growing the sport, they just like tele skiing. But if I don't care about growing the sport and just like tele skiing and want to continue tele skiing, then I am contributing to the death of the sport and have some cognitive dissonance because I want to continue to be able to buy tele gear while the impetus to produce the gear dies. Damn. What's a guy to do.
Ski. I guess.
A friend broke two pairs of v2 Outlaws this season alone. One had a fractured flex plate and the other snapped at the claw/spring cap inner face.
I can’t recommend Meidjo enough. after they fixed the issues with v1, I haven’t really heard of a significant number of failures. It can ice up under the right conditions though.