Maybe the mice were scared away by Mrs. Rontele's hysterics, but I was just out for the last three hours and no carnage to report.
I did also get one of those sonic transmitters that you plug into the wall...
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Maybe the mice were scared away by Mrs. Rontele's hysterics, but I was just out for the last three hours and no carnage to report.
I did also get one of those sonic transmitters that you plug into the wall...
we don't want to drive them away by this point, do we> Your locked and loaded. Invite the fuckers in for tea and trapps. Turn off this silly repellant device on the grounds that it is not manly and report back.
The irony of iceman discussing humane killing techniques is wonderful.
No mice in traps this morning, nor any fresh droppings.
get a pussy.
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
"RODENT and BIRD MITES (Liponyssoides sanguineus, Laelaps echidnina, Ornithonyssus spp., Dermanyssus gallinae, Cheyletiella spp.)
Rodent and bird mites may bite people when their hosts die or abandon their nests. Three types of rodent mites readily bite humans: the house mouse mite (Liponyssoides saguineus), spiny rat mite (Laelaps echidnina) and tropical rat mite (Ornithonyssus bacoti). The house mouse mite prefers to suck the blood of mice, but also will bite rats and people, often causing a rash around the bite. They prefer warm places (e.g., around pipes and furnaces) where rodents live. The spiny rat mite feeds on rats at night and hides by day in cracks and crevices around rat nests and resting places. The tropical rat mite’s bite is painful and causes skin irritation and itching."
I've seen mice tear their skin off trying to get out of the sticky traps. They are awesome. I like the idea of baiting them too! I spent the better part of a summer killing mice at a hunting camp once, just waiting for the day they show their furry mugs at my house...
I've found the dead mouse smell tends to discourage other mice from becoming deaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Suit
My best ever was 4 baby rats in one trap. Snap!
Sloowwww pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blatant
I used to have 3 cats, the youngest one was a go getter... she had a killer spirit for sure. THe other two were pussies...err, pansies. Anyway, the young one dies and there's a fight for dominance in the house. Both of the cats being lazy good fornothings.. no one wins.
Anyway, I'm sitting there in the spring, with the first floor sliding glass door open, with a beer open, and the TV on. I don't remember what I was watching, but I do remember suddenly hearing gnawing... which made me, and the cats, look at the sliding glass door. The gnawing sound stops, and a mouse comes racing into the living room.
Now.. to go anywhere the mouse either has to turn and run, or run a gauntlet between the two cats. And that mouse had some balls, because he just went for it... switch to the road and all that kind of stuff.... straightlining between the two cats. Who sat there and watched him run all the way into the kitchen.
Of course, I took a drink of the beer and said "well fuck... you two are worthless fuckers go get the mouse!" The looked at me and rolled onto their backs figuring I was gonna get the mouse and give it to them as a treat. so I get up and patch the screen door, and figure the mouse is now trapped in the townhouse I live in, the cats will get it tonight when it tries to escape.
I figured it might take a day or two, but the cats would get the mouse. Nope, after a week, I reached down under my oven to get a baking sheet, which had mouse poo and piss all over it, and realized the little fucker had holed up in there, probably writing his mousifesto and getting ready to go all unibomber on us with hanta virus or something. At that point I realized that the cats were truly good for nothing and I should call my ex and thank her for leaving me with a few years worth of feeding, watering and shit cleaning up. I also briefly considered getting really big rat traps and trapping the cats.... but decided that might make me a bad person.
So I manned up and pulled out the range, those fuckers can shit a lot in a week. cleaned that floor up, washed everything in the house, and left the range out, and waited... until I caught him and threw him out into the dumpster.
Lesson? Some cats are really lazy, and you may want to make sure you always have a beer on hand for mouse fighting.
That's funny shit, mang, The "mousifesto" had me LOLing for realz.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceclimb
1. In my considerable expierince, the neck breaker seldom makes a clean neck breaking snap. Many times there are minutes to hours of excruciating pain before death.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
2. Smart mice figure out they can rape your snap trap of it's bait over and over without getting caught. Sticky traps are hard to rape.
3. The mouse mind doesn't know it's going to die on a sticky trap...it just pisses them off. And, if you check the traps daily, you can find them while still alive and pissed and do away with them in a humane fashion of your choosing.
I go with suffacation in a ziploc bag myself....
3.5 I think a mouse doesn't have the emotions needed to freak out like a person. I think it's more like catching a fish. The fish isn't panicing and contemplating death when you pull him out of the water.
Come to think of it, I'd rather be stuck to something and pass out of dehydration and die vs getting painfull pinned down to a board till I died of internal injuries.
3.a.2.a.9: Shut the fuck up, snap traps work like a charm, you know not whereof you speak. Be a good little moron and sit down and shut up.
I mean, really. Get fucking serious.
Yeah, hunt it mano a mano with a claw hammer, you pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
edg
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did you just crochet that while reading this thread???
No. Rontele's mouse commissioned me.
Meanwhile, while no one was looking, EDG's transformation from Cheerful Cheeky Kid to Sour Pain-In-The-Ass-Self-Appointed-Genius became complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by edg
I liked that other guy much more.
RIP, fun kid!
He didn't ask you to do it for free?Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyn
He lives with a lawyer, he's been trained to think nothing is free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
"I'm totally serious butt-lick"Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
- That kid in 16 Candles
Hmm, no. Most of the time a snap trap breaks the neck or spine, or crushes the head... thus resulting in an instantaneous death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
I've also seen them completely avoid glue traps.Quote:
2. Smart mice figure out they can rape your snap trap of it's bait over and over without getting caught. Sticky traps are hard to rape.
Nup, they will be extremely frightened because they have NFI what is going on. This is why they shit and pee in these traps excessively.Quote:
3. The mouse mind doesn't know it's going to die on a sticky trap...it just pisses them off.
Are you saying mice don't panic? Then why do they struggle so violently on glue traps, maiming themselves in the process when they can just sit there and do nothing? Looks like panicking to me.Quote:
3.5 I think a mouse doesn't have the emotions needed to freak out like a person.
And glue traps aren't painful? Seriously? Mice will chew their own limbs off to escape these things, and that's after pulling their skin off, or eyeballs out of their sockets trying to escape. And dehydration/starvation isn't so painless either.Quote:
Come to think of it, I'd rather be stuck to something and pass out of dehydration and die vs getting painfull pinned down to a board till I died of internal injuries.
Snap traps always worked for me. Glue traps are satanic, and should not be used. Kill the fucking buggers already, don't torture 'em.
Shitstain. Don't be a pussy and just fucking kill the thing, don't leave it to starve to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
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Yes, the mouse is still alive for the entire time. With a snap trap it's DEAD... not only is it better for YOU (and the community), it is better for the mouse. People who use glue traps will go to hell. :)
It's a MOUSE !
Either method can hurt the mouse so just let them live in your house.
And while you are at it, I hope you never fish, hunt, eat any animals and don't kill the fleas on your fucking dog. Watch where you hike cuz you might step on a bug.
This thread has been invaded by animal rights idiots.
The question was, how to kill mice. Looks like snap traps and sticky traps work. I like sticky.
Good day.
This morning's harvest.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...E/IMG00032.jpg
Or put anti-freeze in the trash can.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyn
Hey that's pretty cool. Has anyone actually tried it? Does the mouse sense the tipping point and scurry backwards?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontele
Also, I'd put fondu oil in the bucket. MMMM tasty.
Don't care if it's a mouse. Point is, if you're going to kill, do so quickly. That goes with every other animal too, btw. Not really against killing animals or using them, but I don't go around torturing them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by TROLL-HOLE-E-O
Didn't suggest to let the mouse go, let alone let it live, in fact no one did. I don't see where your animal rights BS is coming from.Quote:
This thread has been invaded by animal rights idiots.
there are plenty of good reasons to use sticky traps rather than snap-traps, so STFU and :fuckyou: for saying anybody who uses glue traps will go to hell
Hey, could you guys argue somewhere else? You are completely ruining Rontele's sweet blog.
Actually, mice are quite adept at "freaking out". Whenever starting new experiments, all animals needed to be handled once or twice daily for 10-14 days in advance in order to reduce the affects of handling-stress from the experimental outcome. Also, some stains are more susceptible to stress than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
Anyway, if the mice you catch are found to be in a state of hysteria, just inject them intraperitoneally with about 2cc of "mouse cocktail" (Rompun, 20 mg/ml; Acepromazine, 10 mg/ml; Ketamine, 100 mg/ml). They'll sleep well after that. I guarantee it.
Sure they "freak out"....I'm refering to their perception. They don't really understand what's happening. They are just instinctively reacting. They have no concept of death. Like a fish out of water will 'freak" but does it really know it's going to die? Are it's relatives sad when it does?? Fear is an emotion, mice don't have human emotions. They have adrenalin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva
Same goes for dogs, cats, horses, babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
Best luck I've had catching mice recently was by accident. An orange Home Depot bucket with some pieces of dried dog food spilled in it by accident = four dead mice.
Really? I do realize that the little bastards can seem somewhat clueless when presented with something totally out there. But they can and do learn. They will bond and play with human handlers. They exhibit excitement, confusion, fear and other behaviors commonly lumped within the scope of emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
WTF is this supposed to mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Downbound Train
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Originally Posted by GavinB
Oh brother! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
What do those images purport to prove? That the side of a mouse that was stuck to a glue trap is all icky looking?
What is "the entire time?" If it's still alive when you check the trap, kill it. If you're concerned with how long it may have been stuck before discovery, check your traps often. I somehow really kinda doubt being immobilized by glue is anywhere even close to the same thing as having fingernails pulled out with pliers or teeth drilled without anasthesia.
The manner of a mouse's death somehow affects my "community?" WTF? This ranks up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've read. Anywhere.
Going to hell for killing vermin? Nope.
Snap traps don't always kill swiftly either. I found a rat caught by it's hind leg in one. It was very much alive and had been gnawing at said leg in it's attempts to escape. Bet that hurt like a sumbitch. I've also found them caught by the very tips of their noses and their hindquarters, neither circumstance causing a swift death.
So, just to be clear: I don't enjoy or obtain any pleasure from the slow and/or painful death of a rodent nor do I set out to inflict such but, if that's what happens, so be it. I won't lose sleep over it either. I want these vermin gone from my property by the most efficient and convenient means available and other than that I really don't give a fuck about them.
Bottom line: If you're too much of a nancy to accept that inflicting death on other living things may not always be swift or humane, then best to leave that job to others and shut your yap about the methods they employ.
meh, it's all the same, lend me your children for a weekend and we'll see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
If my children start crawling around your property, eating your foods, shitting and pissing in your attic, walls, crawl spaces and living areas, and inflicting mites and diseased fleas on you, then take your best shot. I'm guessing you might find braining children with a hammer kind of hard to stomach, but I'll try to restrain them anyway.
damn near sig worthy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
so still no critters rontele?
told you the sticky traps work better. he would have bagged some and had a tr up by now.Quote:
so still no critters rontele?