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no - Phil from the Otto house. A K regular...Quote:
Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
thansk for sharing skidork !
and may i recommend for those thinking the WTC site just doesnt do it for you, that shanksville probably will. the wtc site left me a little short, but shanksville had a whole different feel.
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Originally Posted by SkiCougar
God, do I admire the folks on that plane...
It did not really change my life. I do have sympathy for all the families that lost their loved ones. What does piss me off though is people profiting from it. I saw where a company is minting coins made from the gold and siilver recovered from the sight. That is just not right to profit off such a big loss.
As for me I am pretty much the same, I still don't like people in general. Well most people. I do have a few good friends.
Totally agree here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monique
I also get really sad and angry about all the civilian deaths caused (by politcal decisions not soldiers) in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's got to be 9/11 multiplied by a couple hundred times. I don't really buy the "Fight them over there instead of here," logic because it implies that American lives are more valuable then others.
Every year, the town of Weston, MA puts out a flag for every victim of 9/11 in the town green. I've driven by it often, but had my camera this time. I find it very striking and am always taken aback by the sheer size of the field of flags. I took these today while a woman and child stood at one end (first photo) and wondered if the husband/father was among the victims...
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65314.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65315.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65316.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65317.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_65318.jpg
I hate the government and the president more then I did before 9/11 I hate flying because of 9/11 (going through security sucks) I think the American people are idiots because of 9/11 and I hate the religious right because of their hippocritical support of wars after 9/11
mostly I hate more things and feel less safe today then 5 years ago today:cussing:
Yes, 9/11 affected me. Grew up here in northern NJ and as a small child watched the skyline change as the Towers grew. I was living in Los Angeles on 9/11/01. Woke up to numerous phone calls at 6:00 am. Many of my friends that I had in Los Angeles were from NYC (I lived there for 15 years before moving to LA) and we all felt the same way. We just wanted to get in a car and drive "home." I can't explain it but growing up here, living here and not being here when it all happened was one of the ..... well like I said, I can't explain it. A couple of months prior to 9/11, I had been thinking of moving back East to the NJ/NYC area...... 9/11 finalized my decision. I know it may sound corny but my perspectives changed on many levels and in many ways.
Two people I knew are gone (actually 7 that I know of from my highschool). One, a sister of a girl I knew since grade school. The first plane hit Sarah's window. Her desk chair didn't face the window so she never knew what hit her. She didn't suffer. She had just gotten back from her honeymoon the week before. Her wedding pictures weren't even developed yet. David, was a childhood friend (I knew him since I was about five). David didn't work at the WTC, he worked across the street for Merrill Lynch. He was at Merrill Lynch's WTC offices for a breakfast. This was an early day for him and he usually didn't get into the city until after 9:00 because he took his three children to school every morning. David was on his cell phone with his Dad up until his end. Strange because very few cell phones worked.
Upallnight, I am truly sorry for your loss. Dork, well you know how I feel. Since meeting you, being able to call you a friend and hearing your story three years ago, I thank God you were spared.
I know many folks who were right there and wonder everyday "Why me? Why was I spared?" I know my ex co-worker's brother does. He worked for FedEx and his usual first stop were the floors that were first hit. Every evening when he comes home from work, he puts his FedEx ID in the same exact place. That morning he couldn't find his ID. He searched all over, including going back to his usual spot several times. Realizing he would be late if he didn't leave right then, he left. Knew his buddies would be ticked off at him because without his ID, his clients would have to come downstairs to get their packages. He was in the lobby waiting for some to come downstairs when the first plane hit. That evening when he finally got home, he found his ID..... in the exact spot where he always leaves it and in the spot he looked several times that morning.
How would you have led the post-9/11 United States?Quote:
Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
You feel less safe, but are you less safe?
Damn and double damn. :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skibumtress
Talk about a guardian angel working OT....Quote:
He was in the lobby waiting for some to come downstairs when the first plane hit. That evening when he finally got home, he found his ID..... in the exact spot where he always leaves it and in the spot he looked several times that morning.
....basically i just hate the politicians more than ever, and feel very lucky not having a friend die that day.