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I suspect you know nothing of the people and motives involved in new drug discovery. I'm very sorry to hear about your mother and father but you can be assured that the brightest minds in medicine take it as their personal mission to find curative treatments. I know from direct experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
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Originally Posted by huckbucket
Being naive about the reality of Cancer research is something I'm not.
I'm grateful for the advances in treatment which is keeping my dad alive but my frustration is with billions upon billions spent and we have how many cures ?
I don't know what you're saying. You complain that drug development is too profitable, but then state that we've spent too much money without many cures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Here's the bottom line ... you view cancer drug research as a black box where you put in money and get out cures. If you had even an inkling of the complexity of the cancer problem and the cost of finding and testing new drugs you wouldn't make blanket statements such as "we spend too much," or "we need more cures." The problem is above your pay grade. Hell, I work in drug discovery and development for cancer therapeutics, have a Ph.D. in genetics and it's above MY paygrade.
If you want some validation for your thoughts, watch "Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies" streaming on Amazon (free if you have Prime). It will explain things in ways you can understand and hopefully give you a deeper appreciation for the challenge. As I said, there are amazing minds working tirelessly on these problems, many of whom are my personal heros.
Well said. I work in cancer diagnostics (not even close to the same pay grade as huckbucket) and cancer as a class of disease is almost unfathomably complex. +2 on Emperor of All Maladies, very informative watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
Also, I lost my dad and best friend to Leukemia at 51. Fuck Cancer indeed.
you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
Strong argument.
Jesus, huckbucket has a PhD and he still posts here with this bunch of hooligans as his audience. Unbelievable...
And yes, fuck cancer. My mom's beaten it twice, my mother in law once, my aunt once, and my grandmother wasn't as successful.
The cure is right in front of our fucking noses. There needs to be the will to implement it. So it is not going to happen. It will wipe out a bunch of industries. Including Big Cancer.
Please point me to data supporting your claim that the cure is right in front of our noses. What do you know that I don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by riser3
Also, I'd like to know more about the simple device that will get me 200 MPG in my car that Big Oil is keeping from us.
http://jalopnik.com/the-fuelshark-wo...bul-1479542390Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Done.
My wife's cancer is back. Oncologist says this new cancer is going to kill her within 5 years. Yes, FUCK cancer.
Really sorry to hear that man. But a lot can happen in 5 years, especially these days, so hang in there. Good luck.
Shit man, sorry. Couldn't even imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millsie
God man ... that's terrible news. Sorry to hear it. Like Ice said, hang tight. In the meantime, get the oncologist to push to learn as much as possible about the cancer. Genomic profiling is blowing up and has done some amazing things in terms of matching patient to therapy. Look at companies like FMI and PGDx for these services. They aren't too costly if out of pocket That info could also help qualify her for a trial if things get really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millsie
I'm so, so sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millsie
My 3 y.o. niece most likely has Stage 4 melanoma. Biopsy results are pending, but her oncologist was holding back tears last week when she told them what she saw on the CT films. Still holding out hope, but it's virtually certain that the biopsy results will be a mere formality. When/if that happens, I'm going to completely break down. Just thinking about what my SIL/BIL are experiencing right now makes me tear up.
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This is so fucked up, fuck that. Things like this are why I'm sure there is no God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Shit dude, sorry to hear that. I sincerely wish the best for you both. And yeah, advances are coming all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millsie
My wife just got a No Evidence of Disease diagnosis after a five year struggle with cancer. I hope it sticks this time.
Fuck cancer, it's been the central fact of my life for too long.
Vibes..... That little kid shit kills me.
Fucking fuck fuckers....grrrrr
kind of amazing how nefarious & ubiquitous cancer is
basically everyone i know has a family member or close friend who has dealt with it
vibes to everyone above sharing their experiences!
you are not alone!
oh no, Dan. no words for that. sorry man.
^ What he said. Fuck...
Thanks for doing what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
The only issue I have (and this is a 'from the hip' statement) is that it appears that our FDA is too conservative when allowing people with life threatening cancer to give any drug a chance. I was just speaking with a guy who's family member was getting a drug from Canada because it was not allowed in the US. To me that is just crazy. His family member was given months to live and when he took this injection from Canada he lasted 5 years. Maybe it wasn't all the drug, but just the course of his disease or both, but still it just seems we have too many roadblocks. I'm blaming our litigious society.
Fuck cancer and sorry to all those that are effected by it currently.
I'm really sorry to hear that, Dan, that is absolutely terrible.
The woman I fucked it all up with also happens to be a cancer survivor. That shit is everywhere.
That's awesome. It's great to have some good news to balance out the crushing sadness that is most of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper