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In 'beliefs'?Quote:
Originally posted by ak_powder_monkey:
Stand up for what you believe and try to make a change, its stories like this that make me think once in a while that the terrorists are right (in beliefs not actions)
Please expand on your thoughts below. I got the book, but I'm still learning. Maybe you could give me direction.
Here comes Asscroft.
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Yes it's very easy from thousands of miles away to let it slide. Yes, if I was arrested like how Plakespear described he was arrested I'd be very angry, and rightfully so. But I would not file a lawsuit. Would I think of filing a lawsuit right after it happened because I was still pissed and in the moment? Probably. But I would hope I'd decide not to after my anger subsided a bit. Why? Because I agree with what Benny said.Quote:
Originally posted by Rusty Nails
Easy to let shit slide from thousands of miles away, eh? If you were walking on a public sidewalk tomorrow and were arrested under false pretenses, would you be angry? Rightfully angry? Or would you just "let is slide"? Those cops should be ashamed. Not ashamed as an entity, but individually. Each one of them knew it was wrong and did it anyway. Thievery of freedom committed by those bound to protect serve.
TIM DUNCAN( father of arrested protester):preventitive incarcaration.Quote:
My son was arrested Tuesday night at a demonstration. A peaceful, non-violent demonstration. He wasn't allowed to disperse. They threw the nets up on one end of the block, and then the other end of the block, and swept up everybody on the block. I have not been in contact with him that Tuesday night. I know he hasn't seen a lawyer. This morning, I went, I have been here to wait for him to get out, to find out some kind of information. I went this morning and pinned a note on the fence back at the parking lot. I got to admit that's something that I thought would happen in another country under a dictatorship, that when parents have children that are disappeared by the state, that they pin a note to their child on a fence saying if you get out, please contact me at this number. I never thought I would ever do that in this country to have to do that to my child, exercising his freedom to be able to demonstrate in this country. We talked to a parent who also, her son was just recently released. That son spent a day in the hospital and the parent had no idea that he was taken to the hospital or spent the day in the hospital. When my son was arrested, we got an arrest number for him, we took the number to try to get an arraignment time for that. We said he hadn't been processed. When we showed we had an arrest number, they said where did you get that from? Later on that night that number disappeared off of the computer. They said well maybe your son has been released. We went to the place where we knew would he go. He wasn't there. We came back this morning and found out that the arrest number had been changed from what it was previously. No one has any information. I am now in a situation where my son has been disappeared by this state, by the government of this country, by the police force. And I am pinning notes to a fence in the city park saying, “Son, if you get out, please contact me. Love, Dad.” I never thought I would ever have to do that in this country. It breaks my heart for where we live and it breaks my heart for what my son is going through right now.
so sad
It isn't good but it's doubtful he's been thrown out of a plane over the River Plate. Seems a little over egged on the drama.
Don't get me wrong. I'm hardly a litigious person. I will not personally be filing any suits against the NYPD. However, I will be in contact with people from the ACLU and National Lawyer's Guild, who are already planning to file class action suits. I don't care if I see a dime from the suit- the important thing here is to set a precedent to ensure that people's rights are not violated in this country.Quote:
Originally posted by slippy
if I was arrested like how Plakespear described he was arrested I'd be very angry, and rightfully so. But I would not file a lawsuit.
Which brings me to another point. Some people have said tyhings to me saying that it could have been much worse. True. The people who have said I could have been in one of Saddam's jails, or tortured, or treated much worse have valid points. However, I feel that this happenning in America is scary. Apparently the police have found a way to temporarily suppress the first amendment, semi legally. Even though most of the people arrested will never be convicted (myself included, probably), the chilling effect is the real crime. Many people will be afraid to express their opinions due to the risk. In this drive-thru on demand culture we live in, the inconvenience factor alone will scare off people. The biggest complaint I encountered among fellow arrested protestors was lack of access to our cell phones.
The reason I am interested in taking legal action against the NYPD has almost nothing to do with what I went through, but almost everything to do with the rights of americans in the future.
And LITT- I don't know about going to Switzerland. I'd probably spend all my time skiing or trying to nail Swedish tourist babes to get any real work done.
Hey Plake - today's Village Voice has published a list of most of the 1,793 people arrested during the week of the Republican National Convention. They call it The Honor Roll.
"The biggest complaint I encountered among fellow arrested protestors was lack of access to our cell phones."
While you were in custody? You've just been arrested, regardless of the circumstances, is it SOP to let people keep their cell phones with them while in custody?