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did you ever measure where yours are mounted?
has anyone tried these with tele bindings?
pechelman - just talked to marshal.
Make sure he gets his feet on those babies.
sure thing
they have dynafits on them though, so i am somewhat worried he will exploderize them :p
Let him put his own bindings on....
bump for two quick questions.
In turns of pivotness / ease of sliding the tails where do the Rockers fall if:
5= stiff 188 bro
10= Spats.
Where do these fall in terms of feels like skiing a traditional ski in powder
1= Spat
5= Hellbentish ski
10= 188 Bro
Doooood.....
You must be psychic, Rob. We just finished a bunch.
And we did a bunch of fiddlin around.
We did reverse camber, flat and positive, noodle to I beam, all glass and a few glass/carbons.
We milled a new mold, rockered the tip up a bit more (looks nice), used the core pechelman designed for it (did the protos with 188 and 192 cores), put metal in the base in the tips and tails, and threw the 192 FKNA tops on them because we thought the Rossi S7 top was so cool. ;) Ya hear that, coreshot?
Been bustin nuts to get them done for OR.
The whole crew disappeared New Years Eve and never came back. :FIREdevil
(Pokey called yesterday to see how pissed I was, but didn't dare show up)
Luckily, dk_alsakan and TeleRob showed up and saved our butts. Super props to those two dudes.
pickles - TH came over to do a vid on us and I mentioned you and the green machine you scored for us. I don't know if it made the cut, but I was thinkin of you, mang.
edit: here's a few really rough pics prior to finishing.....
we didn't want anyone to know we added fiber optic headlights for nite skiing, but wtf, may as well show them off here....;)
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...4&d=1200871707
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...5&d=1200871707
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...6&d=1200871707
Pivotyness
Not having been on a 188stiff bro, but a 186 LP which is kinda similar and having been on spats, I can say that
Pivotyness = 7ish
Sliding Tails = 8ish
As far as feeling like a traditional ski in pow and feeling alive while still being surfy and not that dead spat feel...Id say quite confidently its pretty much a 8-9. I have not been on a hellbent style ski. The closest ive come is a 192 Bro with lots of tip rocker.
If you can, Id look for yossarian and upallnight's review of the dp120- when it first came out and how they compared it to the spatula. Those might help shed some additional light as we have very similar designs.
Where the rocker and dp120 differ however is;
More effective edge
More sidecut, especially in the tip
Narrower waist
Heavier\"More Durable" construction (probably a bit less power but more dampness)
Cheaper cost
Overall though, the rocker makes more compromises to work pretty damned well on ice\firm whilst giving up very little in the soft\pow.
and pat
those look secsi with the 192 topsheet :D
that rocker\tip looks dialed too
pat
Gimme a call or an e-mail when you get back in town after OR. I'm solidly in line.
That's hawt.
gang
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pechelman - showed the ski to a friend who's a big time/ big name/ big mountain guy at OR and he suggested softening the tails (this was the I beam model) to allow the tails to sink as the rocker lifts.
Whaddaya think of that?
Splat,
That would be my recommendation too based upon my experience on the 192s; don't know if mine are super stiffs, but there sure feel like it when I flex them. They are mounted at 1075 and I have to ski them very centered in less than perfect powder to keep the tips up. This also might be a result of my skinny ass not having enough mass to bend them properly. Having the Rocker do everything that Pechelman has experienced and still being able to drive forward in powder without any possibly of tip dive or spearing would be the ticket, at least for me.
I understand what you're saying, but the pintail design of the 186 tail might sink enough due to it's narrow nature and still be stiff enough for good rearward landing support. We're skiing a Heinz 57 variety pack of rockers the next couple days; soft, stiff, reverse, flat and positive. I think we'll get some good evaluations from a variety of skiers.
Bump to encourage tele mounting pechelman's rockers.
And letting me try them.
Overlooked how much pintail they have. Even with a stiff tail they should float with those dimensions. Want me to test a pair on the sand here in Saudi?:D
Kidding aside I'm really looking forward to putting a pair through their paces.
Holy shit. 3 different flexes in Soli Sunday pow today.
fuckkkkkk................what a day.
Yo, Watards - sfb now has a couple proto 186 rockers at the shop.
One pair are noodles (xclnt in pow) and another original rockers protos.
I had to take the stiffs with me for further testing. ;)
i just love further testing :)
Will there be a commercial model avail for purchase this season if the new testing goes well?