PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

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Originally Posted by singlesline

I grind mine down with a dremel and it only takes a second. But you do have to do the epoxy in two stages which adds a day to the overall time. I use a little digital scale that reads milligrams to accurately mix tiny batches of GFlex so at least I don’t have much waste.


To make things look good, color the top of your wood plugs with a sharpie that matches the top sheet. If you want to go overboard for exposed holes you can even try to add a little pigment to the top coat epoxy.

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somewhere in the last page it was inffered the XXX-er method or briantoloigist method or lou dawson method now MFU method doesnt work and I was smoking too much dope which is absurd ... everyone knows micro dosing is where its at

I wonder where Lou got it from but that doesnt matter eh ?

the JB I used was some silver shit so yeah its more putty than flowing adhesive IME it didnt flow it left voids in the hole, i didnt like putty and I never used it again on a ski, of course I have used it on wood but thasts a different app as i see it

yeah this ^^ color your fix area with a sharpie even if it blue just use a black marker and you won't notice

IME if i don't have to sand epoxy or AQS it leaves a nice smoove finish

If I was building a ski or boat I would definatley weigh my epoxy but I just splooge out 2 tracks of epoxy on a piece of cardboard that look the 1:1 or 2:1 if thats what I'm using mix with a nail and call er good

I use epoxy but that would be too slow/ expensive for someone mounting a bunch of skis in a shop

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

You don’t get voids because you pack it in the holes with a tool.

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So in this regard I understand why it makes more sense to use the putty. I'll give it a try.

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Originally Posted by The Iron Horse

So in this regard I understand why it makes more sense to use the putty. I'll give it a try.

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You could use a syringe for regular epoxy and fill from the bottom but it would lack the filler that the putty has that gives it workability and structure


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Does anyone have a PDF template for the Plum Race 150 (no adjustment track)? I’ve dug around online quite a bit and can’t find one


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Originally Posted by PinyonJuniper5

Does anyone have a PDF template for the Plum Race 150 (no adjustment track)? I’ve dug around online quite a bit and can’t find one

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Per SkiMo:

Plum Race 99/120/135/145/15030 x 26.520.5 x 26

Tell me:
-confirm the above hole patterns
-your BSC & BSL after measuring them
-where the rear toe holes are relative to your BSC and pins
-where the forward heel holes are relative to your BSC and boot heel

Check out thread on DIY Binding Templates
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=330792

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Originally Posted by PinyonJuniper5

Does anyone have a PDF template for the Plum Race 150 (no adjustment track)? I’ve dug around online quite a bit and can’t find one

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https://www.fixation-plum.com/en/our...-race-150.html
there is a drilling template linked on the bottom right of this page.

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

the thing with JB weld or any runny glue is that IME voids are left in the hole unless you put something solid in the hole which is why I

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Not if you do it right.
You have to keep poking the epoxy with a paper clip until there are no more voids or bubbles.
If your workspace is cold use a heat gun to make it flow

For me? I trust long set epoxy way more than bamboo skewers or golf tees.

YMMV.

PS. Can you machine tap bamboo? You can with epoxy. As long as it’s long set high tensile strength.

PPS. I would risk adjacent screws with epoxy done right. Bamboo skewers and golf tees make my knee hurt.
Where’s Mitch (RIP) and telemark tips pullout thread. An enginerd actually measured this shit. And yes. Golf tees worked. But I think that was where the 1.5 cm rule came about.
But with machine epoxy I would feel fine on adjacent holes.

PPS. If you don’t mount your own you get plastic plugs. I’ve seen skis snap on the plastic plug line. At 2cm spacing. The core is vacant and compromised

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Originally Posted by The Iron Horse

So in this regard I understand why it makes more sense to use the putty. I'll give it a try.

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No.
Hard no.
Putty doesn’t soak into the wood core fibers.
Just hammer in a plastic plug if you dont care.

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

No.
Hard no.
Putty doesn’t soak into the wood core fibers.
Just hammer in a plastic plug if you dont care.

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You don’t think epoxy putty bonds to wood because it doesn’t ‘soak’?

Final thought. For those that don’t understand.
For filling holes.
Get slow set epoxy. The longer the cure time the longer the cross link chains.

JB Weld long cure is good. Hard man is better.

Anyways. Mix it on cardboard one to one and once it’s mixed use a paper clip to drizzle it into the holes. Keep poking the holes until it’s solid with no air.
That’s hard core epoxy.
Which is what keeps your ski from breaking from the manufacturer on the original layup.
Or buy 333 skis in the parking lot.
Golf tees and bamboo skewers are filler. Use them if you are concerned about weight. If you want strength use long cure epoxy.

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Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

You don’t think epoxy putty bonds to wood because it doesn’t ‘soak’?

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It’s a Mormon hot soak session

Nothing comes from it

I have a pair of 333 skis w 7 mounts. Thinking about overlapping some holes. What glue works best? Thx

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

Not if you do it right.
You have to keep poking the epoxy with a paper clip until there are no more voids or bubbles.
If your workspace is cold use a heat gun to make it flow

For me? I trust long set epoxy way more than bamboo skewers or golf tees.

YMMV.

PS. Can you machine tap bamboo? You can with epoxy. As long as it’s long set high tensile strength.

PPS. I would risk adjacent screws with epoxy done right. Bamboo skewers and golf tees make my knee hurt.
Where’s Mitch (RIP) and telemark tips pullout thread. An enginerd actually measured this shit. And yes. Golf tees worked. But I think that was where the 1.5 cm rule came about.
But with machine epoxy I would feel fine on adjacent holes.

PPS. If you don’t mount your own you get plastic plugs. I’ve seen skis snap on the plastic plug line. At 2cm spacing. The core is vacant and compromised

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Coreshot you sound manic like mayeb you forgot to take your meds tonite ?

I'm sure i read that Mitch is dead,

Isnt there a political thread that needs fucking up ?

I wonder if any manufacturer has considered making epoxy core skis.

Ugggh.
Not to the Barron. Not ragging you.

But a general comment about plugs
How much epoxy do you have around that golf tee.
Is it an even 2mm epoxy bond? Or was it hammered in sideways and oversized?
That plug might have zero glue or epoxy.
Might as well pound in a plastic plug.

I’d rather fill the void.

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

Coreshot you sound manic like mayeb you forgot to take your meds tonite ?

I'm sure i read that Mitch is dead,

Isnt there a political thread that needs fucking up ?

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Bored
Surfing webs
Full of Turkey leftovers

RIP Mitch.
TT was such a good site

https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/yh...1&action=clickhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx6IwshTL6M

dude it sounds like you are all messed up on triptamine from the turkey but who know what is really real ?

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

Ugggh.
Not to the Barron. Not ragging you.

But a general comment about plugs
How much epoxy do you have around that golf tee.
Is it an even 2mm epoxy bond? Or was it hammered in sideways and oversized?
That plug might have zero glue or epoxy.
Might as well pound in a plastic plug.

I’d rather fill the void.

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Would have been appropriate to be ragging on me TBH.

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Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

Would have been appropriate to be ragging on me TBH.

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Hah. Just saying it wasn’t personal.
Plugs don’t hold anything. They keep water out.
Putty? Ask Elaine from Seinfeld. Doesn’t stick around. JK. Putty can fill a hole. But it doesn’t soak into the core any more than a Mormon virgin

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

Hah. Just saying it wasn’t personal.
Plugs don’t hold anything. They keep water out.
Putty? Ask Elaine from Seinfeld. Doesn’t stick around. JK. Putty can fill a hole. But it doesn’t soak into the core any more than a Mormon virgin

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It doesn’t need to “soak” into the core. It sticks around really well. When you pack it in while still pliable it fill all the voids and interdigitates with the threads from the screw. It’s waterproof and workable.

Making “funny” cultural references and talking like a bro doesn’t make you right it makes you sound like a dipshit.


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anecdotal data point: i've drilled touching holes filled with g flex w/ chopped fg, double bubble slow set w/ chopped fg, and oak dowel w/ g flex. i've had a screw pullout once, and it came from a dowel. do with that what you will.

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Originally Posted by stealurface831

anecdotal data point: i've drilled touching holes filled with g flex w/ chopped fg, double bubble slow set w/ chopped fg, and oak dowel w/ g flex. i've had a screw pullout once, and it came from a dowel. do with that what you will.

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I'e been doing the chopped FG and 2 part slow set for ever, I might have even 1st to comeup with it but people didnt wana use it cuz they thot I was on drugs, I was of course I mean how do you think I came up with the idea on a dark and stormy night ?

But I wouldn't depend on a dowel thats been glued in eh

I have a pair of Chipotle Bananas with two quiver killer mounts I just got. I want to mount a demo attack into the skis. With adjustments fore and aft I can make the new holes for the demo plates work fine.

My question is this -

should I pull all QK inserts and dowel epoxy treat them and mount the demos

or

should I leave them and fill / seal the QK inserts with ski wax or ptex the mount them

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Just mount the demos, set the BC and BSL and ski them

I don’t plan to ever use the QK inserts or put the style of binding back onto these skis

I am not a huge guy but sometimes ski hard and most of my other skis have two to four mounts with all old holes plugged with golf tees and marine epoxy.


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I have never used them but it sounds like you are a huge QK fanboi so if you got 2 sets in the ski you could recover some of that $$ by removeing the QK and filling the holes with dowel or what ever works for holes that big ?

If they were mine, if leave the inserts alone, push some plastic plugs in to the threaded holes to keep them clean--You can always remove those later with a drywall screw. Then just mount over the top with your new binders.

IMO, you're not returning much structural integrity to the core by removing the inserts and filling with dowels/epoxy. The fibers are already interrupted and that's where the strength of the core comes from.

If structural integrity is your top priority, I'd pull the inserts, fill holes with an epoxy like gflex 650, with some sort of fiber mixed in (snipped up FG cloth). Ideally the epoxy is warm so it is less viscous and wets out the core material and any voids. I like to add a little bit of heat with a hair dryer or something after the holes are filled so that bubbles rise to the top faster and the epoxy settles in the holes. This is partially a response to the hole plugging discussion above--If the goal is to return integrity to the core, "rejoining" the wood fibers is your best bet, not plugging the hole.