Anyone have details on this purported issue? I have a pair of ATK Race SLR bindings that I was going to post but want to know first if there's meat to it.
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Anyone have details on this purported issue? I have a pair of ATK Race SLR bindings that I was going to post but want to know first if there's meat to it.
Regular Raider has proven pretty durable. C-Raider might be fine but they're new last year, so not all that much info yet. Why roll the dice?Quote:
Originally Posted by comish
The issue was with 10 year old La Sportiva branded toes. No recall. Just a lot of warranties and sellers (MEC if I recall correctly) opting not to order more. It's comparable to the early Plum toe piece failures- a problem that they completely solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by CirqueScaler
Haven't heard of any ATK problems in a long time.
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Agreed, SLR is a relatively recent model. Should be good to goQuote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
Womp womp looks like it's likely I'll be denied a jig allocation due to lack of supply. Guess I'm not special enough. Anyone have a line on these things directly from Europe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
I've never had this much trouble spending money on skiing, sheesh. Would be nice if ATK could just open a US LLC...
Hmm I pre-ordered one pretty early in the summer. Haven't gotten a rejection email yet. I did expect one because I didn't order hagan bindings. If I made the cut and mine magically shows up happy to loan it out in the SF area (and Tahoe when I am up there).Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
Rfconroy hooked me up with this 3D print jig. Worked like a charm. Going to do a write up soon. I need to take some better photos as I was in a rush.
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If you don’t need more than 10 din, crest is the way to go. Bout 60 hard days on my and I ordered a second pair for a second setup. Also have voyager 14s (raider 14 from moment). If there are fewer lifter options on the 10, that was lost on me. And I’m usually a bitch about wanting flat and quite high riser settings (i.e. I actually gripe w not having a high high on the alpinist). IMHO the elasticity in the heel and riser range make the crest the best sub 300g binding for general touring (including small drops and like 8 to 9k days). If you’re dropping big get raiders and if you’re climbing more go lighter. My .02Quote:
Originally Posted by comish
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Damn looks cool! Will def be interested to see more details.Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
OK, I'm new to ATK clamps so I'm going to lead with a dumb question. Are there any other ATK heels that are compatible with Trofeo/Helio 180 adjustment plates? Or, in a similar vein, do the Trofeo/Helio adjustment plates have the same heel mount pattern as the Raiders/Core or ?
By "compatible with" do you mean that you can mount them to the adjustment plate, or that they share holes with the adjustment plate if you remove it entirely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
The U-spring race heels (and the Haute Route, without the adjustment plate) all share a pattern, and can be bolted to the adjustment plate. The adjustment plate uses its own pattern that is not shared with any of the bigger bindings (but they don't overlap, so you can do inserts for both if you want).
The Helio 110/145/180/200, ATK Race/Trofeo/Haute Route, and Hagan Ultra/ZR heels are all compatible with the ATK heel plate. Any heelpiece with a 25mm wide drill pattern will fit, including Ski Trab and Dynafit Expedition
https://skimo.co/tech-binding-hole-patterns
My 21/22 ATK stock order arrived this week so all pre-orders to mags have now been dispatched. I've also got plenty of the AL09 Freeride Spacer Kits that a number of folks were requesting.
I can confirm that the only model that has had a change to it's mounting pattern is the C-Raider which now has a slightly narrower lateral spacing of the front toe holes. Although the patent issue had been resolved with Dynafit, it wasn't resolved soon enough to retain the existing pattern on the C-Raider as the carbon composite toe base is not made in-house and a decision had to be made to avoid delaying the production.
For the braked models the factory now offers a pair of AL11 Brake Seat Covers which fill in the recess in the heel base should the user remove the brakes completely. A single brake has a nominal weight of 43g and the covers are 3g each to give a 40g net gain per ski. I've got plenty of the AL11's in stock.
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And I've also got plenty of the new AL12 4mm toe shim sets for the Raider models. These come with suitably longer screws. Note that the Moment versions of the Freeraider 14/16 and Raider 12 already have a 4mm thicker base so whilst these shims are perfect for further reducing the delta additional even longer screws will need to be requested. On the shims you can seen the narrow pair of front holes needed for the 21/22 C-Raider 12.
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This year I've also taken some of the ATK SBC02 Kevlar Core Leashes. I didn't take any last season as I already had plenty of both the Dynafit Guide Leashes and the Alpinist leashes. The ATK leashes are only 15g each but have an additional feature that I wasn't aware of. Like the other two leashes they can be used with any binding but they come with a anodized alu stud/button which is used specifically with ATK toes. The loop of the leash is passed through the opening in the side of the toe lever and then around the stud/button which sits within the toe lever to give an anchor point. It's a neat design feature that removes the need for an additional wire loop that then has to be doubled back on itself which could cause a rub/weak point etc.
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The ATK leashes are my fave. Perfect length
Did any Bay Area peeps manage to get a jig that they would be willing to loan out for beverages of their choice? Or ski drilling parties?
i think westcoaster was trying toQuote:
Originally Posted by jorion
failing him, i'm always happy to mail my jig out to you bay area peeps if you have enough folks out there to make it worthwhile
Yep, they do in fact exist. Will shoot you a PM.
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I was able to buy a jig from black diamond after Hagan flaked out on me. BD customer service was fantastic.
Can also loan out. It does in fact work well.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/MWHPVQu1GAtKwpUN8
Curious why one toe says Helio 350 and the other says Helio 200lt? Warranty?
We (Moment) have jigs for sale. We don't list them on the site but if anyone is in need just shoot us an email. info@momentskis.com
We also have freeride spacers available to mod up your BD's: https://www.momentskis.com/products/...reeride-spacer
Not to thread drift too much but does this only apply to ATK jigs or do you sell others as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee
Highly recommend the freeride spacers to those who are interested. Made my BD 350s that much more solid.
We only stock and sell the ATK jig.Quote:
Originally Posted by davjr96
I picked up some extra toes from D-Roc for another pair of skis. No warranty issues or toe failures from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Just got the BD Helio 350 in the mail and there is small plastic piece in the box that I can't identify. Anyone know what this is? Here are some pics (https://photos.app.goo.gl/HGHVrWEXK8CPCuvX9). My best guess is that it's a gauge for setting the proper 'forward pressure.' My old dynafit bindings shipped with a similar piece of plastic that you put between the back of the boot and the heel piece of the binding for proper set-up.
It goes on the heel piece under the brake. It will snap right in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan816
Alternatively, you can remove this piece and snap in a freeride spacer for better performance.
Who can mount ATK bindings in seattle?
Pro Ski mounted mine.
You can :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyosha_SP
Seriously. ATK is one of the only companies that puts a mount template in their owners manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Will I regret putting an ATK 120 brake on a 107 width ski?
You will regret putting any ATK brakes on any ski. They're so flimsy and worthless I can't imagine them stopping a ski. Just go brakeless to save a few grams and throw a couple leashes on for the spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beder
The brakes are quite flimsy but they are great if you're using them inbounds/sidecountry where they are required because they are the lightest and very easy to install/remove. The brakes measure true to size, so the 120s would be similar to other brands 110, you will probably be fine. I have an extra set of 102mm brakes if you want a tighter fit with some bending.
My 120mm brakes on my Raider 12s easily clear my +10 GPOs (126mm waist).
Of course the brakes are flimsy. What touring brakes that weigh 45 or so grams aren't?
I'll likely leave mine on, but only because I may use these skis inbounds.
... Thom
I leave them on because I like how they fit together when I'm carrying them from the garage to the car lol
Trying to decide between the Haute Route 10 and Kuluar 12 LT for a lightweight setup. Seems like for me the main trade off is that the Kuluar has ski flex compensation while HR has adjustable forward release. Is there a clear winner?
Max DIN shouldn’t matter, above 9.5 or 10 I might as well lock the toe.
If you care about adjustable forward release and length compression just buy the Crest it weighs around 20g more than the Kuluar and HR and has both features, and 10din
I've just got the ATK Raider 12 and am digging it so far. The heel risers are effortless to use and the bindings are so light.
I want to adjust it for different boots but I don't have the 4mm gauge that is mentioned in the manual. Any suggestions for alternatives to use?
4mm Allen key works wellQuote:
Originally Posted by klipspringer
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I've noticed the 4mm plastic spacer ATK includes measures around 4.5mm.. kind of strange. Its also bendy which makes it feel inaccurate. I also use a 4mm allen because it is more precise, they do the same at Skimo Co.