Wasatch Dirt Thread

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Originally Posted by Boissal

Beauty!!
Recommended AF long pedal loop please? I need to get out of the pen...

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The loop DTM suggested is great and basically what I did the other day, although I like finishing with upper mud springs to lower tibble. There is so much potential for mega loops down there.

From that loop, once you hit the summit parking area after riding south fork little deer creek, you can add snow gauging-salamander flat-pine hollow for another good dh and about 1k more climbing. That takes you back to 157 then mud springs. If that’s still not enough, do snow gauging-salamander-timpooneke rd-bear canyon, then up pine hollow to take you back to 157. Borderline type 2, as pine hollow from the bottom sucks.

In other news, Black Forest is running great with some really nice work done throughout the trail, including a jump/drop into the first steep section. Get it before it’s ground down to bedrock again.

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Originally Posted by evdog

Keep going..... I'm taking notes :) Interested in type2 loops as well.

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The Type 2s start at Snowbird, climb to Sunset Pass then descend ADF. From the bottom of the ADF singletrack the easier option would be to continue down the 4x4 road to the Mineral Basin road, up to Hidden Peak and descend BMT. The truly masochistic option would be to ride 157 to Tibble and back up to Snowbird from there.

Good AF beta above, thanks.

Started late Sat and did Mill Canyon to 157 to S. Fork Little Deer Creek then hopped on Horse Flat. So far so good but then I went down Lame Horse to where it intersects the road and that was pretty lame and toasty, Snow Gauging/Salamander will be on the list for the next trip. I went back up Lame Horse and got back on DTM's loop with 157 then off to Mud Springs to check out the Overlook. I was thoroughly cooked after that and about to run out of water. Fortunately I ran into a couple kids who told me Mud Springs was a better DH than Tibble so I exited that way and will check out Tibble next time.

I thought about riding directly into Tibble Fork res when I got back to the car but there were about 500 people on paddle boards in the water so I put the bike away first. Rinsing off the dust in that cold ass water is glorious!
Beautiful up there, super quiet, only ran into 1 other bike, 5 or 6 motos, and maybe 5 hikers. The amount of terrain and potential for big loops is enormous. It was my first time riding moto trails, the dust and the deep brake bumps are a bit of a bummer but at least I didn't feel bad skidding all over the place on the DH. All the moto peeps I came across were super cool, pulled over and shut off the engine to chat, a couple offered me some water, I was impressed.

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The Grunge still goes if anyone's real motivated to ski it:

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The crest is pretty much dry. I've been in denial about ski season being over but its probably time to embrace summer

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

That GOAT trail looks worth trying.

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Probably wouldn't be that fun on a bike is my impression, it's a bitch of a climb on the moto and usually very blown out. There are some trails not on the map around the AF overlook that would be pretty fun and in dark woods, they head back towards tibble.

One of my co workers wants to take some clients E biking. He asked me where they are legal? Where are they legal?

AF canyon, BST in SLC, Corner Canyon

I just came upon Slyfox’s IG account. I knew he was a little kooky, but that shit is bonkers. Godspeed to anyone who gets in his van.


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^ I dont even wanna know lol, rode in his van this morning. Couple 10' patches of snow in the usual spots, but otherwise clear (I was short on time and just went down Mill D).

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I just came upon Slyfox’s IG account. I knew he was a little kooky, but that shit is bonkers. Godspeed to anyone who gets in his van.


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I had to unfollow that shitshow. I was afraid I was going to catch something.

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Originally Posted by YourMomJustCalled

I had to unfollow that shitshow. I was afraid I was going to catch something.

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Same here lol. Swore off the shuttle last year with all his propaganda too. The climbs up pinecone made me stronger, so whatever.

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Originally Posted by snowaddict91

Same here lol. Swore off the shuttle last year with all his propaganda too. The climbs up pinecone made me stronger, so whatever.

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The propaganda is one thing.... the court records are terrifying.

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Originally Posted by dfinn

Probably wouldn't be that fun on a bike is my impression, it's a bitch of a climb on the moto and usually very blown out. There are some trails not on the map around the AF overlook that would be pretty fun and in dark woods, they head back towards tibble.

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GOAT's a good time. It's nice and steep. There's definitely better stuff in a AF, but it's a trail I've done a couple times and I'd do it again for sure.

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I just came upon Slyfox’s IG account. I knew he was a little kooky, but that shit is bonkers. Godspeed to anyone who gets in his van.


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C’mon, shuttling the world-famous Wasatch Crest trail is definitely worth needing to quarantine for two weeks afterwards…

It’s one thing to ride in a van with an unvaccinated, mask less driver for about an hour. It’s another thing when that van is also his bedroom.

Is the "Meadows Trail" that connects the GWT and City Creek rideable? Is it better/worse riding to stay on the Grandview Ridge to Rudy's Flat? Thinking about some big dumb loops

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technically at the top of city creek it says no bikes on a sign heading up that trail, and last i saw/heard from a runner friend it was seriously overgrown, but some may have better info than I.

As Phall said it's technically closed to bike and massively overgrown. I checked it out last fall on foot, there's no sign of the trail at the top, it's all game trails. Once you get in the drainage the brush is otherworldly as there is water year round. Beautiful spot and it hardly sees any traffic other that the occasional hunter but it's better done in the winter.

Thanks Phall and Boissal! I'll check it out on foot instead

Report back, I’ve been wanting to go hunt deer up there.


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I'll probably wait until fall, I don't think I'm hardy enough to go out there during peak bushwhacking season

Foothills flowers are going off on north facing slopes. Finally got around to checking out some of the new trails in the city creek area. My verdict: meh.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...44c4b88f75.jpg

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june 4th crest opening has to be one of the earliest on record, ya?

This should be interesting....

https://radiowest.kuer.org/post/can-...oothill-trails

Especially since they have….no one? Specifically bike related?


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This is absurdly last minute, but does anyone have a line on Sundance lift ticket discounts?

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A. That "geologist" is a cunt.
B. It was about what I expected. It was clear that the interviews were recorded in advance. Doug did a good job of asking some accountability questions, but if I were the producer, and I heard everyone ripping on bikers, I certainly would have had that voice represented in the conversation. That was a clear fail. I think this comes down to the typical nimby argument. The rich fucks in the Avenues don't want the dirty bikers in "their" backyard. Sadly the doom and gloom spewed by the Maffly and the cunt will probably activate them even more.

A few snow patches but otherwise hcc gtg.
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In other news, Honeycomb is mostly g2g, about 3 weeks ahead of last year. There are a couple of thick snow patches in the shadiest part of the upper section that are going to linger for another week or two. The rock garden is mostly dry with a couple of mini snow patches. I thought I was going to die when I didn't notice the first one and hucked straight into it, seemed like a guaranteed OTB in the rocks. Fortunately it has been cold enough up there the past couple of nights that I didn't bury both wheels and slid right through.
There are a couple pieces of deadfall to contend with, one especially sketchy at the beginning of the steeps on Honeycomb Cliffs. Things were as blown out as last October, no recovery over the winter. Still all time fun despite the Raptor rd grind.

Across the road things are even dustier, upper Beartrap is more of a slide for life than ever and is definitely seeing some traffic. There's a 90 degree left in the lower third that is going to eat someone's lunch this year, the straightline out of it is already well established. There's also some carnage and deep ruts on the lower dirt road section, almost seems like someone drove a truck up there and got it stuck, it's super soft and wild.

Edit: Criscam beats me to it by 0 minutes! Would have been fun to see you up there then see your post.

Excellent Honeycomb beta! I had been thinking about HABing up it to see where the snow line was. Crazy early to be GTG.

I got talked into DH laps at Sundance yesterday. Once a year is plenty, but that really is a fun DH track. Many smiles. I'm still faster than the 11 y.o. but the margin has gotten frighteningly slim:

http://youtu.be/xZuEjMDpmbQ

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Originally Posted by YourMomJustCalled

This should be interesting....

https://radiowest.kuer.org/post/can-...oothill-trails

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Listened, random thoughts:

I really appreciated that the opening segment made it clear that the foothills are a former industrial area and not a pristine environment.

The irony of complaining about trails that are too flat after screeching about overly steep bike trails for decades is hilarious.

Dry Creek is apparently a "crown jewel" and will be the best downhill in the foothills. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.

"Shut everything down for at least a year and do the equivalent of a full NEPA EIS." JFC, this is why we can't have nice things.

"Bikers are well organized and hikers are not," then proceeds to name two well-heeled advocacy groups that have existed longer than mountain bikes themselves and could have easily inserted themselves into the planning process at any time. LOL.

"It's not hikers fault for not participating in the public comment process, it's the city's fault for not proactively reaching out." Again, LOL. That would be laughed out of the room if the roles were reversed.

there was a 2 year public comment period right? people acting like another country took the foothills over with a military

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I really appreciated that the opening segment made it clear that the foothills are a former industrial area and not a pristine environment.

The irony of complaining about trails that are too flat after screeching about overly steep bike trails for decades is hilarious.

Dry Creek is apparently a "crown jewel" and will be the best downhill in the foothills. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.

"Shut everything down for at least a year and do the equivalent of a full NEPA EIS." JFC, this is why we can't have nice things.

"Bikers are well organized and hikers are not," then proceeds to name two well-heeled advocacy groups that have existed longer than mountain bikes themselves and could have easily inserted themselves into the planning process at any time. LOL.

"It's not hikers fault for not participating in the public comment process, it's the city's fault for not proactively reaching out." Again, LOL. That would be laughed out of the room if the roles were reversed.

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so true...the double standards are hilarious.

I agree that making Dry Creek as a downhill only seems kinda silly and is probably ruffling a lot of feathers... IMO should leave Dry Creek as it is and make the new "bypass" trail the downhill only trail.

After reading/listening to these last few articles from the Sltrib and Radio West it makes me have a much higher appreciation for what is happening in Corner Canyon.

All that said there are still ZERO plans for any proper DH tracks to be built...which is sad.

dry creek is meh to hike, I like the bike descent but I’m a beater. BUT, it is a great trail run both ways.

agreed in general just make all the new trails the bike trails, and nobody would’ve cared…

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just make all the new trails the bike trails, and nobody would’ve cared…

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Doubtful as part of the current grumbling has to do with the fact that bikers got all the new stuff and nobody's building new trails for the poor hikers...

I decided to brave the heat and get out for a quick post-work lap on Quarry trail yesterday. 100F at the trailhead at 7:45p with super warm gusts blasting down the canyon, perfect conditions. Good thing the creek is raging right now and provides a bit of cool air. The pavement from Lisa falls to Tanners wasn't so pleasant. The downhill section to the ruins took a beating since I rode it last week. A couple of the smaller berms are just gone and the dust is getting deep, the heavy shuttling is taking a toll. Still fun as hell and the trail lets you know immediately if you're riding sloppy.

The full-face and body armor traffic is a bit worrisome on lower Quarry, some kooks are riding WAY too fast for how loose it is. I almost got creamed at the gate by someone who locked both wheels and slid right through while I scrambled to the side. Some unsuspecting pedestrian is going to get vaporized up there...

I was surprised to sniff some very strong fire smoke at the campground, apparently it's not quite dry/hot/windy enough for the FS to ban open fires. Smart really, there's too much brush in LCC, we need it controlled and since nobody's out raking the woods burning the whole thing to the ground is the next best option.

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Hot rides pay huge dividends later--when it's even a little bit cooler you feel like a hero on the climbs. The full-face and body armor crowd overriding sight lines on the Quarry isn't anything new, sadly. It's a minor miracle that that trail is still open to bikes. The sunset last night was a good one.

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pedaling up in pc after work, 6pm start, is actually quite pleasant most of the trails are in the shade...did the Armstrong, Pinecone, Crest, Canyons back to PC loop on Monday not a single person on the trails above Armstrong. I may or may have not descended Robs trail but if theres no-one there did it really happen:cool:

^^^^ much better than my sunset shot, damn!

Had the same experience is PC last week, barely saw anyone out on a perfect day. The giant brake holes suggest people are out riding though. Quite the mystery.

landings down there somewhere outta frame...getting some redemption after blowing up my rear wheel on this one last year
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cool temps up high but scary dry already.

Is there supposed to be a bike in the pic? All I can see is a giant pair of brass elephant balls.

Interesting wildlife sighting in Honeycomb last night--two chubby dudes in full camo on fat bikes.

Popular trails being empty in the evenings is definitely a thing. People like to be home for dinner, I guess.

huh. I bet they were out putting up some cameras for archery season. You should kindly inform them that E bikes are not permitted on USFS non-motorized trails currently.