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I’ve had the heel ice up a good number of times, but the solution is simple, just cycle it back and forth a few times and it always clears.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheK12
As for the brakes, like the above poster said, they won’t break if you stow them in the correct order of operations. Stow, then mode change, no stompy
I'm in your weight ballpark. I've had 2 pairs of tectons in heavy rotation for the past 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheK12
As stated above, brakes are not a disability issue as long as you stow them by holding the pad down as you put the heel in tour mode. They haven't been super reliable at deploying for me though, I've shaved some plastic and done some light bending to improve matters but they still don't pop out every time when I take my foot out of the binding.
Regarding icing, I tour in coastal snow. The heel does sometimes develop a block of snow under foot which works its way into the heel mechanism. Cycling the heel from tour to open clears it all 95% of the time. When putting on skins, I briefly hold the ski tip down and whack the top sheet with my hand a couple times so any snow can fall out of the cavities before forcing it up into tour mode.
As with any binding, you develop rituals with use. Given that, I am stoked on these. They're great. The ability to adjust toe RV on a tech binding was a game changer for me as a heavier guy.
Icing in the heel is normal as with other tech bindings. Make sure you hold the ski vertical, when you smack the dildo back and forth, so the ice actually falls out. Then you're good to go. This applies to all tech bindings.
Thanks for the info! Assuming, then, from a release standpoint, these have been great? I don't ski super aggressively (outside of powder) but because of my weight fully geared, I can put some pretty good stress on bindings.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickel
As stated, I'm same weight as you. I've been running the toes at 11 and the heels at 11.5Quote:
Originally Posted by TheK12
I ski fast and jump off stuff even when the snow is powerfully mediocre. I have had zero issues with them. Everything fails at some point but these have been the most durable touring binding I've used in a while.
Thanks! This has been really helpful!Quote:
Originally Posted by nickel
PSA Ascent Outdoors has tectons for $389.97:
https://ascentoutdoors.com/collectio...schi-tecton-12
Also Vipecs for $359.97
https://ascentoutdoors.com/collectio...i-vipec-evo-12
Quick one for confirmation. I'm selling a pair of skis with holes for Vipec Blacks. Hole compatibility has been stated 1000 times, I don't recall one point being covered ...
Are all generations Vipecs and Tectons the exact same mount - not only the mounting hole patterns, but also where the mount positions your boot on the ski?
I don't recall this latter point (boot position) ever being mentioned.
Remember our conversation last Spring about the Xenic toes? Initially, we heard that the toe shared two holes with Vipecs and Tectons. We later learned that reusing these two holes moved the boot position by 15mm.
Thanks!
... Thom
Yes. The toes are identical other than coloring (within a generation, mount pattern identical across all generations whites/black/evo/evo(2) as far as I know / have experienced), so the heel's position should be constant across the various toes.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
^^^ Thanks! I suspected as much but didn't want to overlook anything.
... Thom
Saturday afternoon project. Never mounted a tech binding...this was about as easy as it could have been. I've mounted a few Alpine bindings and this wasn't much different. Used a paper template and one test mount and then went for it.
Now the only question is Blue or Orange...or maybe yellow to match the boots :) Attachment 326419Attachment 326420Attachment 326421Attachment 326422Attachment 326423
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Yellow in front blue in back.
I just searched in a couple Tecton threads and I couldn’t find it, but some mag recommended pushing down w/ your pole in the front release, putting one side of the toe in the toepiece, and slowly lifting the front release w/ your pole, (don’t let it snapback), as you align the other side.
This worked like a charm five or six times in a row the other day.
So, whoever suggested this, I want to thank you.
You know, funny thing. I switched to boots that have pointers/arrows on the toe pinholes. Now I never miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
Yeah, I don’t really need to do the pole method with the ATKs or Dynafits, but my wife has the arrow inserts and they’re easier for sure.
Awesome, glad it helped. It's a calm, deliberate way to click in if you're gripped up in some chute and really want to get it on the first try. Ice in the boot sockets can still be a pain, but at least you don't have a snapping rat trap bumping the ski away from you if you miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
On that note, just got some lightweight ATK leashes to use while clicking in and testing for ice in the sockets, for no worries about dropping a ski into oblivion.
Both pairs of my Vipecs now have cable loops in the dedicated slot under the front screw - an attachment point for a quick, emergency clip-in to a leash in dicey entrances. That, combined with leashes attached to my boot instead of the the toepiece is a winning combination for me. I'm never without a leash when I need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
... Thom
On the stepping in note, I've found with Tectons that if I just step in almost like it's a normal DH binding I have a pretty high success rate. Obviously you can't kick the toe of your boot in as hard as you normally might. And I'm sure the exact boot you're using may yield different results.
Has an interesting thing happen today, side slipped 30 yards into a steep chute and noticed that one foot was in tele mode. Fortunately I hadn't tried to make a turn yet, because it really wasn't a good place to fall.
Only thing I can figure is maybe my other ski somehow knocked the heel piece into climb mode while sideslipping. I did catch the ski tails on the granite wall behind me for a second, and had to regain my balance.
Lesson learned is look to make sure the heel piece is fully engaged with the boot heel before you start skiing, lol.
I actually have something like this happen semi frequently, minus the skiing away part. Sometimes when stepping in, the heel goes a bit past ski mode and doesn't engage my boot. It's usually when snow is a bit packy and my clearing efforts were insufficient. Cycle again and good to go but definitely something to pay attention to.
Yup, it happens if I stomp real hard and fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickel
I then reset the dildo, place the heel of my boot down and step normally and I'm good to go.
Ah, that could be it. The snow was super slushy and I was slamming the heel really hard thinking it would clear out ice better, in fact (being kinda gripped) I'd step in twice "just to make sure". Maybe I stomped it hard enough that the lever coasted into climb mode.
I thought this was more the characteristic of the Vipecs as the lever works in the opposite direction - down to go into tour mode.
The few times this has occurred, I always assumed I stomped on the lever inadvertently.
As I think about this however, I realize that it's always occurred shortly (immediately?) after a transition and not halfway down the hill.
... Thom
Yeah I remember on my old dynafits, in powder, I would pretty much have to jump on one foot with my entire body weight to get it the pins in my heel.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
I gotta say that this is one great thing about the ATKs (easy step-in), although I can't speak to the "U" spring versions - just the Haute Route and the RT10.
... Thom
Agree. I also heard people have difficulty w/ the Dynafit speed turn, and I witnessed it today. I was w/ some beginners, and it was still frozen, so we decided to stop skinning up and ski down to hit another line. She was sidehilling, and just couldn’t get the ski flat, so after she got her toes in, the binding would turn not allowing the heel pins to line up.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
I just ended up going over and holding her ski flat for her.
Was she on rotation bindings? If so, the trick is to lock the toes in walk mode and it should line the heel pins up.
The other trick is to remember to put the toes back into ski mode before you ski down.
Thanks, I'll tell her.Quote:
Originally Posted by f=ma
Can anyone please point me to a fitting guide if one exists. I get how the brakes go together, and how they operate, but what about fitting them to boot length (I assume they have some BSL adjustment?) Thanks.
Took me 5 secs to Google Tecton length adjustment and got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2jf9DVL9-IQuote:
Originally Posted by mec26c
I struggled with step in a bit a few years ago when I rented some skis with first gen Tectons for a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
Last winter, I got my 12 year old daughter some AT skis with Vipec Evos. She never had any issues stepping in, even with minimal practice.
They have also been very easy for her to use in general: switching modes and riser can all be done with skis on, and mostly with a pole.
From day one she was ripping skins with skis on.
And for those coming from Dynafits, I think part of it is that the left to right roll method, doesn’t work so well, better to step straight down.
I'm planning to buy some of these tonight. I'm mounting them on a 108 width ski - do I go 100mm or 110mm? I was leaning towards 100mm but saw someone post a few pages back that they got the "L aka 100mm" and it's a perfect fit on a 112mm ski. But then I saw that the 100mm is actually the "M" size.
So anyone with the new Tectons comment on the brake width to go for?
Get the 100mm brakes. They do indeed clear up to right around 112mm with very minimal to no bending.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
I have the 110mm on my 106’s. Fit perfect
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Actually looking at them there is plenty of room for 100mmQuote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
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Ok I got the 100's. Figured too that if I ever need to it's easier to make them wider than narrower! I skied Tectons for two days back when they first came out and loved em, but then sold that setup. Excited to get back on them again.
Just had two pre-releases this week due to the heel flipping up partially into walk mode while skiing. Once in moguls and a second time creek hopping out a skin track. Neither are good places to be free-heeling unexpectedly!!
Has this happened to anyone else? Visually there is nothing wrong with the bindings.
yeah, that sounds like something that would suck big time. Glad you are still in one piece (hopefully).
Is the forward pressure and din adjusted correctly for your bsl and weight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6WjFjvEKlE
As long as the bsl and din adjustment are correct what you describe shouldn't really be possible, unless there is something wrong with the horizonatal elasticity spring / mechanism in the rear.
The most likely culprit is the forward pressure - either that it is set for a slightly longer bsl or that there has been some migration - or/and that the din is off, though the din thing seems a bit more unlikely. Any rattling or weird sensations from the heel other than the obvious not retaining your heel?
I sometimes have it happen stepping in at transitions and it has invariably been caused by snow in the boot or binding causing the heel to shoot past the ledge of the boot. I have never had it happen when skiing except maybe 5 feet after the transition when I didn't pay enough attention.
Same, never had it happen or seen it happen mid run....doesn't seem physically possible