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Agreed, stock (4) flex is money.
Ok I feel ya on the flex 4... will the 187 GPO feel like the 187 MVP or Protest? Trying to figure out if the 192 is worth it... kick turns may be a pain...Quote:
Originally Posted by steveski
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I ski 187 Protests.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALFONSO618
I've had both 187 and 182 GPOs. I've settled on 182s for everything. If I skied more open terrain inbounds I'd go for 187 but I'm in the trees more than not. I think terrain you ski on a regular basis and terrain you like to ski will help you decide!
Ok great I think the 187 will be sufficient for what I’m looking for... plus I’m only getting older and slower... maybe the 187 is a safer future move...Quote:
Originally Posted by steveski
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178 Bodacious should be on your short listQuote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
If I didn't already have a MAP / Carbon /#4 / Nylon top GPO in 182 and Enduro / Veneer / #4 (also 182), those Screaming Bears would be a consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by sruffian
I'm toying with the idea of getting down to an 1800-ish gram ski in this width, however. If Down came out with a 182 in the CD114L, I'd be all over that as well. Both this and the GPO work for me.
I love a 187 in wide open spaces, but always regret having one where I mostly find myself - in tight trees ;-)
I sold my veneer 187s to get the veneer 182s (mounted with Vipecs, 'coz I'm not sure how I'll use 'em). They give up very little top end (for me) and return a lot of maneuverability.
The 182 (nylon tops) are my "real" touring ski (mounted with Helio 200s).
Idle thoughts, but if cash frees up, a UL/veneer / flex 3 will certainly be on my short list (Colorado and generally continental/intermountain snow). I've only skied in maritime snow a total of 3 days in this life.
... Thom
I need some TGR help here... spotted some GPOs with the Sierra Nevada topsheet... guys clearly not a skier and I asked for a tip to tape pull and he’s saying it’s 72.5”.... is that the 187 or the 182 ? He had em advertised as 192.... anyone have a thought? Maybe GPO had another measurement near 185 back in the day? Thanks guys
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Almost sure that's the 187.
Assuming he knows how to measure, it sounds like they're 187s. A 187 should measure in the 185 to 185.5 range (maybe 73" plus a little).
... Thom
That was my thought because 182s can’t grow... figured it was a poorly measured 187... def ain’t no 192cmQuote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
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Just tried to measure mine that are supposed to be 187s (Craigslist find but the seller seemed like he knew what he was talking about). A little hard to get an accurate measurement without removing the bindings but 72.5 actually looks pretty close.
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You’re the man I appreciate the helpQuote:
Originally Posted by fleaches
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Word. I bought a pair of cd114's for touring - they were heavier than I'd hoped so never mounted them but that shape is FIRE. The 114L piques my curiosity if it flexes anywhere near as stiff and damp as the regular cd114. The open terrain / trees tradeoff is real in touring skis. Was enjoying my bmt 122's for that til I blew up the a kingpin toe that came with themQuote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
This is maybe more of a praxis question than a gpo specific question, but has anyone found their nylon topsheets chip especially easily? Maybe it's because of the carbon layer? I feel like every time my skis touch, a big strip peels off. All my other skis have been a lot more durable in this regard.
I don't really care that much--the skis are a little beat up anyways--but I'm looking for something to do to keep busy at home. Try beveling the edges a bit with a file? Paint some g flex on the corner? Any thoughts? Thanks!
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What year? Older praxis had some slight top sheet chipping issues. I fixed that with my dremel along the edges to round/smooth them with a grinding stone or sanding drum attachment.
Newer ones come from the factory with the top sheet edges beveled a bit I believe
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Year unknown but definitely on the older side. Don't see any bevel at the top edge so maybe I'll do that, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
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Bumping the GPO thread because... well, just because..!
Re-read much of this nugget of a thread prior to drilling this score from Keith's sale, 192 GPO. Agree somewhat with other comments about the skull graphics, but still kinda like the cartoon touch with bold contours, def not a turnoff for me!
Ended up with boot center at 87 cm straight pull from tail, which is pretty much half an inch behind the dot. Had a box of gold/black Wardens laying around from a previous Euro sale, they got the nod for this mount.
As stated in another thread, I'm really curious to A-B-ing these with my Fat +1 BC's, which is virtually the same length, same core material, same flex, and similar dimensions albeit the GPO's slightly narrower tails. One thing I found interesting is the core profile and how it's thinning towards the tail rocker turn-point, where the GPO's are a little more gradual/slender, as is the rocker start, i.e. more gradual on the GPO (comparison in last pic, GPO top, BC bottom)
What that will translate to on/in snow is TBD. I have thoughts concerning for instance tail-slishy-slashynessability. Will be interesting for sure to find out in real life. What do you think?
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I think that’s a sick pillow line…Quote:
Originally Posted by waxoff
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Did you weigh them before mounting @waxoff?
You're going to love them. They are so nimble in fresh, easy to slish slash or easy to arc massive turns in an open snow field. I have 192 Yetis and 192 GPO (x2) and while acknowledging the stronger alpine boots I use with the GPOs, the Yetis are more locked in and harder to slish slash. IIRC my generation Yeti is a narrow BC.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxoff
No, I did not. But I can weigh them as they sit, once I get back home on the coming weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Island Bay
That sure sounds good to me! 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by skis_the_trees
New GPO graphics now on website (scroll down).
https://www.praxisskis.com/skis/gpo/
Pretty sweet. Like that more than the classic skull/octo
6890 g for the pair with Wardens installed (3440 and 3450 respectively per ski) i.e. averaging a smidgen over 2300 grams per ski undrilled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Island Bay
First generation GPO graphic is still my favorite by a long shot
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Tack så mycket!Quote:
Originally Posted by waxoff
Väl bekomme!Quote:
Originally Posted by Island Bay
Since I’m an insert nerd, I’m inclined to put a bunch of holes in my new GPOs… an alpine set and pow skipping AT set. But reading on mount points I may go two alpine toe sets. First at the line cuz I love pivoty in the trees, bumps, tight spaces. If that’s alpine toe set #1, then #2 would be pow mount… should I go back to say -2 for that one? Thoughts?
(I’ll also need to check hole conflict with the ATs)
Thx!
^^^ or to simplify, where recommend mounting for optimal pow and opening up in big spaces? Thx!
I’m definitely not techy/smart enough to fiddle with mount points so take my advice with many large grains of road salt, but I just have my GPOs mounted on the dot and that seems to work great for just about everything I can throw at them.
I think Praxis did a pretty kickass job with this one.
I guess since I want slashy/pivoty version, I'll start with a toe set on the line. And then can decide if I want some more float with some further back toe holes - but can/should wait on that
Theyre still slashy and pivoty at -1 and its still a relatively progressive mount point. But then many do like them on the dimple. Sounds like you know what works for you. Such a quality wood core in praxis skis i have no problem remointing back 1cm if need be, although usually id maje sure i was a minimum of 1.2cm
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I had my first pair mounted -1 and when I remounted different touring bindings I ended up just a hair fwd of the line. It's skis great there.
My new pair is getting alpine binders but I intend to mount on the line.
(fwiw: original pair is drilled 2.5x. old holes filled with hardwood and gflex, still going strong)
Thx again, yeah I'll go w/ recommended - which is still about 1 cm back from my trusty old EHPs (not a perfect comp, but in the ballpark)
Ohmigosh, I'm smitten.
Started off the day in Arlberg with a couple of long runs on the new for me Gunsmokes. They were fine, turny, but well balanced and confidence inspiring. Then switched to the GPO's for some comparison...
First impression. These are the most intuitive wide planks I've ever been on save for Bodes. And this is only my third ski day of the season. Haven't had them in any deep stuff yet, but in the cut up boot deep pow they're true point and shoot. Wow! The quietest tips I've experienced. Will follow up with more details as time goes by, but these are keepers for sure!
(Follow-up will take some time though, need to get on the HL113's too)
Just bought a pair of 187's. Stoked to get back on the Octopus. Would look sick with some Pivot SendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Island Bay
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Looking to buy 187’s if anyone wants to part ways.
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I’ve got some UL182 in case that would work. Sweet touring sticks.
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