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X106 is a great candidate for a 1 ski quiver and is a fantastic travel ski. They’ll pretty much make any turn shape but still require a forward committed skiing style. This doesn’t make them a breeze in the trees, but short turns are easier than the comparable length x88. Not as good in firm or icy conditions as the x88, better in pow and spring conditions.
^^^thanks, thats all i need it for. dedicated e.c. pow ski.
fwiw, 6-2, 195#...always like pressuring the front of boot. most likely going 188 like my x88s...anything 180-182 feels like i'm an over the bars candidate.
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Originally Posted by jackattack
I had both the x88 and x106. I loved the x106 but wasn't as fond of the x88 but couldn't really pinpoint why (coming from Rossi Exp88, which I loved). I sold those and got a pair of x96 as my daily, mostly for groomer days and screwing around in untracked. They ski pretty much the same as the x106 without heating up my knees by the end of the day on harder snow. I love the x106 in crud, powder, trees, etc. but they just worked my knees too hard as a daily. On harder charging days in chutes and crud, the 96 isn't as stable as the 106 so the 106 is better for those days.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinnepa
I'm 5-11, 175 and ski both in the 180+- length (178 and 182).
^^^^how about the 96 as possible e.c. pow ski, day after ski? maybe im overkill thinking 106.
Also have the x106 with shifts as a travel ski. It is a great all around ski, an aggressive detune of the tip and tail will almost make it great for trees and slower, tighter turns in variable snow but at the expense of some hard pack performance. I eas hooking up a bit in nasty breakable crust but the ski slarves great in any soft snow. Not as nimble as my L120s in trees etc but then nothing really is.
Yes, definitely good for that. It skis powder just fine, just not as stable as the 106 at speed in chop, in my experience. The 106 can handle the deepest of pow so for e.c. conditions the 96 would likely be a great choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinnepa
I never detune any of my skis. The 106, detuned, turns great on groomed and I don't have any issues in the trees. It releases out of turns so easily, detuning them never crossed my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
You’re not. The X96 is the dumbed down version of the x106 imho. At your size the 188 x106 should be a breeze to ski in any terrain. If you can handle the 186 x88, you’ll dig the “big” ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinnepa
^^^what was i thinking???!!!
x96 is dental
I wrote a review of the x106 a few pages back as well as an updated one from my Europe trip. It’s a great ski and skis trees just fine. It’s super easy to ski, more playful than charger but can haul ass if that is kept in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinnepa
If Dynastar stiffened the tip some, added metal, put a 25m turn radius on it, it would be a badass charger and make other 106 class skis obsolete IMHO.
What about someone who isn't a dentist and loves both the 96 and 106? Just different skis for different situations. Granted, the 96 isn't the stronger charger that the 106 is but it's still a fun ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
But then it wouldn't be the same ski. Nothing wrong with what you suggest but isn't that basically the Pro Rider?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
I prefer the Menace 98/Slicer over the X96 personally. The x96 feels too soft for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
No. The prorider is more like 30m radius, very traditional shape, metricfucktonne of camber, basically zero rocker, dead until 55mph, etc. 2funk is talking about a bridge ski between the easygoing x106 and the hatefilled LP105.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
No. In addition to the X106. Maybe call it the X106M. M= Manly edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
Yup. Plus the X106 is better in pow. Each has their place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
XXX106Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
Two things: How big are you and how old are you? My guess is that you're bigger and probably younger than me. Could be part of the difference as the 96, while not stiff, it's not too soft in my opinion. That said, one day this year when skiing with a younger, hard-charger, ex-racer friend of mine, I was really wishing I was on the 106. The 96 didn't have that level of charge in it but I survived it and normally don't ski quite that fast. But, that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
I haven't sked the Menace/Slicer so can't compare.
Again, haven't skied these so can't compare.Quote:
No. The prorider is more like 30m radius, very traditional shape, metricfucktonne of camber, basically zero rocker, dead until 55mph, etc. 2funk is talking about a bridge ski between the easygoing x106 and the hatefilled LP105.
Insanity, IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
200 lbs and almost 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
x96 didn't gel with me skiing alpine. I think it would be a good touring stick though.
Thank you for talking my wife in to detuning her skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norseman
Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. You've got me by over 25 lbs and I won't even tell you how many years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
Forgot to add to my post. Yes, I also think it would be a great touring ski. I was thinking of putting Shifts on them but went ahead and put Pivots on. I may remount them next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
I thought the same thing then this movie popped into my headQuote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
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No kidding. No way I was going to ski my X106 out of the wrapper without massive detuning of the tips and tails. That pretty much goes for any ski really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norseman
^^ Meh, to each their own. I think the tip and tail shape mitigate the effects of sharp edges, tips and tail.
I'm genuinely confused about this black & white attitude towards detuning tips and tails. I've also never detuned. Ever. I don't necessarily tune beyond contact points, but I've never understood the active rounding of edges beyond contact points?
What am I missing?
The ability to easily release and smear the ski, especially in mediocre snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
its worth mentioning, I find Dynastars have gernally been ready to go out of the wrapper and require less of an initial tune/detune than many other skis.