Hamas losing the war Hamas started is the outcome of terrible decision making and horrendous miscalculation, putting Hamas on the "wrong side of history"
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Hamas losing the war Hamas started is the outcome of terrible decision making and horrendous miscalculation, putting Hamas on the "wrong side of history"
It started centuries ago.. Kicked into higher gear after WW2.. Now the beginning of the end game of slaughter and genocide and land theft and revenge killing and deliberate starvation and endless hatred.. Aren't religious fanatics wonderful!.
Ignorance is bliss for people unserious about Israel, a situation they have made worse for 60 years and still have nothing constructive to say about it. Contrary to lie about deliberate starvation, Israel floods Gaza with aid. Hamas steals and hoards it causing a humanitarian crisis, but not starvation. The images you see of skeletal children are kids with genetic disorders who were evacuated for advanced medical care oversees. Hamas still uses them as props. The media plays along even though they know the truth. And it's important to remember that the protests against Israel because of Gaza, with accusations of genocide even here in this thread, did not actually start with the IDF operations, but started as a symbolic participation in the Hamas pogrom itself
WOW.. How gold turds do you believe that Netanyahu shits every day?
Netanyahu isn't the problem:
When do Palestinians march for Israeli hostages instead of their kidnappers?
When does the Palestinian Authority say “oops, sorry for raising our kids on Jew hate”?
When do they realize lobbying in Europe won’t fix Gaza’s potholes?
When do they admit being wrong isn’t a life sentence..you can actually change?
When do jihadists wake up and say, “Oh, Israel is literally on every map ever”?
When do leaders explain why aid turns into villas and militias instead of hospitals and jobs?
When does the Palestinian lobby stop crying “human rights” at the UN while cheering massacres at home?
When do they get that the real occupation is the one in their heads..hate, corruption, hypocrisy?
When does the world finally ask Palestinians the same thing it asks everyone else: grow up, reform, and choose peace?
The wrong question builds walls, the right one opens doors. For example: Sudan’s Islamist army hides in UN silence, Syria sells excuses to CNN, and on Israel and Gaza the world debates like professors..yet no one asks the question that could save lives.
--- Amjad Taha https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1961270929742582013
Netanyahu is a big part of the problem.
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He could end the war in 24 hours
Im afraid nobody is on tge right side of history in this one.
How the Middle East is seen in the West versus how the Middle East is seen in the Middle East are increasingly diametrically opposed. In the twisted neo-Nazi world where Hamas are “freedom fighters,” where Hezbollah are “anti-colonialists,” and the fascist Islamic regime in Iran are “liberators of the Middle East” Netanyahu could end the war Hamas started in 24 hours. In the Middle East Islamist terrorists are being dealt with, the West embraces them
Israel is fighting terrorism with terrorism with some collective punishment sprinkled in top. All the while continuing to expand settlements
Israel is providing humanitarian aid & food while Hamas withholds both to manufacture "collective punishment". Today, Hamas even praised 120 Western media organizations for directly coordinating with the terrorist group by playing along. Meanwhile the IDF just returned two hostages. Hamas's military is in ruin. Hamas's political power weakened. Israel national security is stronger now than in decades past. Its terrorist enemies weakened, deterred, or gone. Western support is the only thing stopping Hamas from surrendering.
Comparing defeated Nazi soldiers to Israelis is absolutely and indefensibly over the line.
I'm not going to defend Netanyahu because I don't like him and I hope he goes, but he is not the reason the war continues.
War is suffering and staring a losing war will bring suffering to the people being used as human shields by their terrorist death cult "government." That's not collective punishment, but rather the most tragic of inevitability.
The war can stop just as soon as Hamas wants it too, or a soon as Hamas is pushed out.
If Israel gives up, it is about more than the hostages, it is about all the future attacks it invites by allowing the force that wants to continue the jihad by means of the next Oct 7 level horror to remain in power to fuck over the Palestinian's future.
So if you want a reasonable comparison, Hamas is the party that once elected, outlawed and murder all the political opposition and ended all free elections... just like the Nazis. But even the Nazis maintained the spectacle of voting. It is Hamas that denies Gazans self-determination.
Israeli has a right to defend itself. There, I said it. I also believe that they are not conducting their affairs in the best way and are actively doing things to make the whole picture much worse. Bottom line(s). Hamas AND Israel are both using food and aid as a weapon . This was true before the war and has gotten much worse. If you dont think Israel was and is, then you're part of the problem. Hamas definitely was and is. Actions in the Occupied West Bank are killing any hope of a two state solution which like it or not is the only way out of this mess other than one side or the other committing ethnic cleansing and genocide. The loudest Palestinian voices (and actions) are committed to that. Actions speak louder than words and the Israeli actions point in that direction as well. No, I dont think either side has any kind of right, divine or otherwise, to the entire real estate package. Im fucking sick of both parties at the moment. Israel made overly generous offers. The Palestinians said no and attacked. I get that. That will never, ever excuse giving up and deciding the best option is to kill or kick out everyone they dont like. And it will never win the propaganda war. They let the Palestinians have the upper hand on that.
One of the biggest misconceptions is that Israel is going to kick Gazans out of Gaza. Gazans may be presented with an option to leave if they choose or they may be given an option for temporary relocation so that Gaza can be rebuilt, but Gazans are not going to be kicked out.
That's a fever dream of the Israeli far right. Ben Gvir & Smotrich act like rabid dogs, so you really can't blame anyone for thinking that's the plan. But it's not going to happen. Netanyahu said so himself. If for no other reason there's no other country in the world that would take Palestinians in if they were forcibly removed. It's a talking point each side lobs against the other side.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Israelis would if they could saw off Gaza from Israel and let it float off into the Mediterranean. Aside from a small minority, they really don't want any part of it. If the world believes it can bend Israel by recognizing a Palestinian state or in some other way counter to its safety & security then the country responds in kind. If Western countries insist on forcing a Palestinian agenda, they should also expect Israel to push back, which is precisely what is happening.
The main thing people in the West get wrong about the Palestinian cause is how deeply Palestinian society is inseparable from Hamas’s ideology. A peaceful Gaza would have natural gas and full access to Israel's economy. The weather is ideal and it’s on the Mediterranean with its vast resources. It's not about a state of their own, or a comfortable life, or economic welfare. It's about jihad until the total destruction of Israel.
Netanyahu said so
HAHAHA
Take the other side, then. Western beliefs now operate in a world of ideological fantasy. The international human rights community, Western “pro-Palestine” activists, international journalists, & Western analysts, all of them, apart from sustaining Hamas, their effect on real people in the Middle East is minimal. People like Wooley who only care about dead, not living, Gazans and strictly anti-Israel narratives. Gaza’s future depends on the opposite beliefs. Gaza can only thrive by focusing on nation-building and coexistence, not radicalism and “resistance.”
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When you say I only care about the dead and not the living it indicates to me that you have a worm in your brain. It is more common that I once thought. Real worms too. </p>
You've cosplayed as the "resistance" throughout this thread. Every forum has a Grima Wormtongue.