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Q for owners / shop pros on the M7 Mantra; is -12.2 the preferred mount point (@177cm)? TIA!
Nice sticker placement Djongo
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Not sure exactly which line that hits, but I was skiing them last year on the middle line. Seemed to hook up better for me. I also ski pretty centered tho.
M102, middle line
Kendo- Middle line
M6- forward line
Mantra 88(25/26)- middle line.
R121- -2.5
R114- on the line
R101(25/26)- -3 or more I have to measure where the demo bindings ended up, but they were 3 clicks back.
Heh, that looks good too. We decided early on that the topsheet depicts the hand of God tickling Eve's wrinkled starfish. Prolly gonna take a digger for that...
@me? only on the standard line for me. Ever. I ski in the front seat always. No tailgunning or upright stance.
Our venues are very different though.
I'll roll them out next smooth and soft day.
Wife has been loving her new Secret 102s, but only a few weeks into the season and both tips are delaminating. Bummed. Attachment 508992
The mount point seemed pretty far forward. Compared to my R114 that was in the pic, closer to center than that by 2ish cm. Once I found the sweet spot, still to be measured, but 3 or 4 clicks back on the demo binders, they ripped. Skied a lot like my M102, but rocker in the tip and tail they engaged easy and released great.
I am a midwest guy, so I don't have a lot of terrain. It was warm and the snow set up really well and was closer to hardpack in the morning. When the snow was mush in the afternoon, they carved awesome and were blasting thru the mash potato left behind from everyone else. My pair shows up in the next week or so and I will get plenty more time on them this winter. They may replace my M102 for a trip to Jackson.
Nice review. Are they more of a directional ski and not like the current 104? Essentially a skinny 114?
That product line theme is a bit wacky.
Yep, little brother to the 114. Same shape, tip, tail. Just 101 underfoot. I skied the 182cm and have that coming in the next week or so. I am guessing there is a 176ish and a 189ish as well. I probably should have looked at the catalog a little closer. I will get it and post the specs. I want to say radius is around 19m, maybe a little less with 3D radius.
What’s the word on the new M7?
Debating getting that or the M102. I also have J Skis Masterblasters which are fun in everything but ice.
5’10 200lbs - is the 177 enough ski? Masterblasters are 187cm which can be a bit tiring sometimes and annoying in bumps and tight trees.
Any word on the 99 waist VWerks Mantra replacement?
Hello everyone,
Does anyone have more feedback on the Revolt 101, how it compares with the mantra series and on what sizes it will be available. Based on the specs, what I have read about it and what I have read about the the revolt 114 it seems very close to what I am looking for. My current quiver is the 186 M6 mantra and the 192 rustler 11 (the orange ones), while I really like both skis, I feel like there is a big gap between them and I would like my my narrower ski a bit wider and more free ride the the more all mountain M6 so I can use more when it's up to 5-6'' of powder. If the revolt 101 is like a more rockered Mantra 102 without loosing stability and with a small give on carving performance I think it would be perfect. Other ski I am considering for this role is the new rustler 10 in 186 or 192 as I really like the the rustler 11 but I am a bit worried about its hard snow stability. Also, any other suggestion is welcome!!
Thanks!
Niko-
Line Optic 104 would fit that bill. I wanted something between a Kendo and a Bent 90. Got the Optic 88s, closer to Kendo to my surprise but much easier to pivot. Take a look at the Optic thread. Revolt 101 does sound interesting.
Any reason you’re not interested in the current version of the M102? I have all of the current Mantras and it’s the one I most often use. For its width it has a tenacious grip on hard snow and I find it works well in shallow powder and most bumps.
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Revolt 101....... I have been on a the 182cm for the last month. Honestly, I grab those more than the M102 lately. Basically a smaller R114. Flatter tail, rockered tip and tail. They pivot easy. Carving is surprisingly good with no titanal in them. They don't rail as much on the hard hard pack like a M series does, but hold and edge well enough to get through it.
Not sure on sizing, 182cm, guessing 175/176 and a 190ish.
I'll second the recommendation for the Blade Optic 104. I have a pair of them as my daily driver, vs my Revolt 121 pow skis. They definitely don't rail firm/icy groomers, but they're still fun to carve, love to get in the air, and are really really fun in any sort of 3d snow.
My M6's need a full tune. I generally default to 1 degree base 2 degree side. There are lots of stories though about Volkls coming back from the shop with the magic removed. Any success stories?
Thank you everyone for the response, I can't quote for a reason.
The optic 104 seems interesting and really very close to what I am looking but I am worried I bit about how exciting it will be at carving compared to the Volkls (the R101) but I've also found some very good deals on them. While I like the M6 I believe I want something more loose and the M102 will not be as I find myself grabbing the R11 even when the conditions don't justify them just for their feeling on softer snow but on the other hand their carving performance must be impressive judging from the Mantra m6
I’m keeping my one-oh-twos at that angle, also. I flatten my bases every time with a skivisions tool, too. It took me a while to find the spot in the tip rocker area to stop edge sharpening to avoid a grabby tip. They got some extended use in true hardpack this January and felt great to me. On tele.
Found this information on the Revolt 101. As mentioned the dimensions are the revolt OneOneFour minus Thirteen mm everywhere.
- 3D Radius Sidecut – Ger optimal kontroll vid både korta och långa svängar.
- Full Sidewall / Mini Cap – För bättre kantgrepp och hållbarhet.
- P-Tex 2100 Base – Högpresterande belag för bättre glid.
- Sidcut: 133-101-115 mm
- Längder och radie:
- 168 cm – 15 m
- 175 cm – 16.9 m
- 182 cm – 19 m
- 189 cm – 21.2 m
- Vikt: 2000 g @ 180 cm
https://alpingaraget.se/skidor/skido...evolt-101-2526
^^^ I was going to post this last night when I checked the price sheet.
I might have a pair coming up for sale here shortly....
Man heres a blast from past question, anyone happen to know now far back the mount points on the volkl karmas were, they had that fr and fs with the boxes in between, deep dive on the webs only found an anecdotal story that it was around -7, and other comments just noting that it had an untraditionalloy rearward mount for a twin tip even at that time... doing some deep diving into mounts would love to know the cm number of the fr mark
Revolt 101 sizing, 175, 182 and 189. Got on the 175 today as they were the only size rep had. So much fun on my local hill in variable snow. Super easy to pivot, held ok on firmer stuff, poppy, light off little rollers. Might be sold on ordering a pair of the 182